2016 Postmortem

quantumjunkie

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104. As a Black man, My Vote is for BERNIE! nt

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:16 AM

Feb 2016

Because he cares about the issues i care about...healthcare, climate change, campaign finance reform, roe v wade, science.

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Why do y'all think I (as a black man) care all that much about what Bernie did over 50 years ago? [View all] Chitown Kev Feb 2016 OP

I'm 100% sure you don't care much Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #1

I'm not sure what you do or don't care about. I do support Sanders, if that counts. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #2

Oh, I don't mind that you do support Sanders Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #7

Obviously what he did 50 years ago was important, especially in light of a smear campaign. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #14

I don't see anybody obsessing about it. trillion Feb 2016 #16

Its what everyone made happen, Not Bernie personally. Kokonoe Feb 2016 #41

Have you seen what this man has been fighting for.... us... from the bottom up.. berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #158

Spare me the superhero rhetoric, please. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #159

He kinda is a political superhero... jump on board.. berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #164

I don't believe in political superheroes Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #170

how bout fdr or king ..i consider king a political superhero too berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #172

That's a heck of a lot of writing for somebody that doesn't care Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #3

I am wondering the same thing. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #61

Good question. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #117

hmmmnn. frylock Feb 2016 #153

And apparently, if you didn't do it yesterday, it doesn't count. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #176

And melman Feb 2016 #196

When I see long-term patterns of behavior it tells me something about a person's character. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #4

I also don't care bravenak Feb 2016 #5

I mean...it's nice...it's a data point Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #13

If it were an ongoing thing I might care bravenak Feb 2016 #21

Yes, Berine has been a weak advocate over the years compared to Hillary whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #33

He was being paid for his time in government bravenak Feb 2016 #46

What are you trying to say? That only if he had been paid that otherwise he would not have done Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #181

And what do you think his black constituents are looking at? trillion Feb 2016 #49

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #6

You don't care farleftlib Feb 2016 #8

This is why I was so against limiting this to candidates older than my retired parents Recursion Feb 2016 #9

I had a good look at those POC entrance polls in Iowa Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #57

Yeah. I don't think the party is taking these warning signs nearly seriously enough Recursion Feb 2016 #60

Not good enough, Bernie whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #10

and throw in no depth like, why. trillion Feb 2016 #25

No, I'm a Bernie supporter whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #27

Ok, but I keep seeing it from Hillary supporters. trillion Feb 2016 #34

It's a mocking post I suppose. n/t whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #37

I haven't got any idea what you, as a black man, cheapdate Feb 2016 #11

Well, you asked Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #43

Largely agree. cheapdate Feb 2016 #53

I read your article. You clearly don't bother to vet anybody and just write. trillion Feb 2016 #109

That's funny...I don't even own a TV Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #123

Dude! I'm begging you. trillion Feb 2016 #127

I'm more informed than you give me credit for Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #129

I saw that on the thread but I'm not sure why you were bent on civil rights. trillion Feb 2016 #132

"I (as a black man) get to make a determination of my own" Armstead Feb 2016 #12

I guess you don't care what ANY person fighting for civil rights did 50 years ago. So I don't care. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #15

It's not that I don't care Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #17

What bullshit. You use time as a measurement of whether an accomplishment or effort is noteworthy. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #51

What disturbs me about the "what have you done for us *lately*" line........ pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #137

Very insightful post. Thank you. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #141

TY! :-) NT pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #154

I agree. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #155

"So why have so many Sanders supporters.........." pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #160

Now we're getting somewhere... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #163

"The black experience with regard to voting is almost always "the lesser of two evils"." pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #171

So Sanders is the problem in the OP, but his supporters are the problem in post 155. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #167

* pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #215

Trail of Tears. artislife Feb 2016 #139

My Great Grandparents are both on the Dawes Roll... I've even posted their number here. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #148

Interesting. I'll say one thing about all this "Bernie is or isn't X, Y, or Z"... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #187

I'd read that post if I really cared what you care about. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #18

Because it's wise to judge people by their actions in the past, not their empty promises LittleBlue Feb 2016 #19

This data doesn't equate. Kittycat Feb 2016 #55

Chicage Trib: "Hey, let's publish the picture. Chitown Kev may care". HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #20

What somebody did over 50 years ago only matters when it is John Lewis apparently!nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #22

No, it's not that it's not important data to have... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #28

I believe that desmiller Feb 2016 #62

If your measure... MellowDem Feb 2016 #23

It's "a part" of the measure... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author 2banon Feb 2016 #24

Exactly -- vote against your own best interests. nichomachus Feb 2016 #31

Awww jeez, not this shit again... Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #26

Yup farleftlib Feb 2016 #40

When I see the insensitivity to your post ... Onlooker Feb 2016 #29

Amen. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #42

Thank you for this. Empowerer Feb 2016 #56

Which post makes it difficult for you to distinguish Donald Trump from Bernie Sanders? I'd love to DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #114

Only sometimes???? Number23 Feb 2016 #145

When I see the insensitivity of your post frylock Feb 2016 #157

Ones color has nothing to do with what I want them to understand SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #30

Excuse me, this conversation started with the summer of "he marched with Martin" Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #35

I accept your apology SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #39

Because I start by assuming anyone on DU is NOT ahistorical. You obviously are, so I KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #36

You had not crossed my mind but I watched Jonathan Capehart make a rather large deal about Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #38

Bernie's and bernie supporters not entirely innocent in all of this, IMO Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #47

Cape hart never claimed that Sanders did not participate in the civil rights movement Empowerer Feb 2016 #59

Capeheart was throwing shade, you can be sure of that Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #64

Throwing shade is very different than claiming that he didn't participate in the movement, Empowerer Feb 2016 #85

He certainly was. And trying to misdirect people to focus on bullshit bravenak Feb 2016 #110

No, but he did fail in his primary job as a "journalist", and he's lied. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #87

If you're going to accuse him of lying, best not to lie about what you're accusing him of Empowerer Feb 2016 #92

I'm not lying. He was. I know this. I have documentary evidence. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #96

He did not claim that Sanders did not participate in the civil rights movement Empowerer Feb 2016 #98

Neat-o. What's that got to do with anything? I'd refer you back to the antecedents (above). DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #102

He tried to create doubt. And failed MISERABLY. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #103

That's fine. But if if someone's going to claim he lied, they shouldn't lie about what he said . . . Empowerer Feb 2016 #105

Wait! Actually, he did lie. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #107

I know Capehart lied. But I still have this DU'er you're addressing telling me I'm the liar. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #168

I opt for countering the spin. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #188

Well, I'm going to keep trying with respect to Capehart. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #189

Wonder what his next hit piece will be... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #191

I'm not sure what his next hit piece will be, but I'm pretty sure there were some people DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #194

I didn't lie. I can back up my claim. You're going to need to be careful about accusing me of lying. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #195

Capehart kept on banging his drum about that photo Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #177

Capehart did not write that Sanders did not participate in the civil rights movement Empowerer Feb 2016 #182

Capehart insisted the campaign photo was not Sanders Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #183

Whatever Empowerer Feb 2016 #185

Thank you. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #44

Why do you think I (as an old woman) care if you care... malokvale77 Feb 2016 #45

I think we're all entitled to our opinions... Nacho-_-Bandito Feb 2016 #48

and..what do you care what the Clintons did 20 years ago? islandmkl Feb 2016 #50

Michelle Alexander Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #54

so Michelle Alexander is what? you seem to be too young to know what it took islandmkl Feb 2016 #68

Read my sentence very very carefully.... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #72

i would hope that wasn't your intention...whoever is 'treating her that way' could be anyone islandmkl Feb 2016 #73

To translate: Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #77

really? she is the only voice with that message? islandmkl Feb 2016 #86

I've been talking about Michelle Alexander's work since Jan 29th of....2014 PotatoChip Feb 2016 #184

How old are you? panader0 Feb 2016 #52

How old are you? sheshe2 Feb 2016 #67

What does John Lewis have to do with the post you were replying to? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #144

Are you a board monitor? sheshe2 Feb 2016 #151

+10 840high Feb 2016 #135

I don't care if the author cares Vattel Feb 2016 #58

Socio-economic equality and racial justice is NOT a single issue struggle. 2banon Feb 2016 #63

I don't need you to lecture me on this. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #69

I know you know it's a discussion board. People get to talk. It's all good. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #100

The implication was made Bernie is running a single issue campaign 2banon Feb 2016 #122

There is a word for what you are doing here. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #65

It doesn't matter to me either KingFlorez Feb 2016 #66

I agree he could have done more. trillion Feb 2016 #70

Just want to say, I appreciate your consistent postings about vetting. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #147

Thank you! trillion Feb 2016 #212

Why do you think *we* care about what *you* care about? SMC22307 Feb 2016 #71

My views on Sanders' SNCC stuff Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #74

No offense, but that doesn't interest me. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #75

But are you bringing this out anywhere else outside of DU or Kos? Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #94

Of course. Primarily at work... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #99

Don't tell anyone this... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #108

Your secret is safe with me. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2016 #111

LOL! Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #180

Able to laugh at 6:48 a.m. -- I'm impressed! SMC22307 Feb 2016 #190

I'm still laughing too Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #207

The Communist Northern Virginia part. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #210

The wealthiest part of the country too Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #214

Ha, we may not be as hardcore as, say, Del Ray, but we're close. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #216

That's so good to hear Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #217

Hey, can you give a better link or tell me where to read on that page? trillion Feb 2016 #79

DK has been a hot mess since the upgrade Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #97

I'm not brow beating anyone about the importance of Sander's civil rights activites. trillion Feb 2016 #120

OK you bring up Flint... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #128

I would say Hillary is pandering to Flint only for vote and isn't actually interested in them. trillion Feb 2016 #136

Why are you bringing up Hillary Clinton to me? Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #140

environmental racism is too general a term. trillion Feb 2016 #142

It's fine and dandy that you share your thoughts in a form of a passage, but.... desmiller Feb 2016 #80

Oh, I am voting in the primary Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #115

I like this part Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #179

and Hillary worked for the Children's Defense Fund right out of Yale Law School Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #198

Yes she did Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #199

Why not? Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #200

Kev, it's everything else with her Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #205

But I'm not talking about the "everything else" Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #206

The everything else weighs too heavily for me Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #208

I understand. I feel the same way as a woman when people tell me I should vote for jillan Feb 2016 #76

Yeah...I mean Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #82

[exhale] pick a topic and vet her. trillion Feb 2016 #90

Thanks for your comments. lovemydog Feb 2016 #78

I believe Hillary will impede criminal justice reform because she's been on the profiting side of trillion Feb 2016 #83

Thanks for the info. lovemydog Feb 2016 #88

are you? just asking, because everybody is something on the internet... islandmkl Feb 2016 #81

Why should it matter? NWCorona Feb 2016 #84

When they said had none working for him bravenak Feb 2016 #113

Not in the link that you read... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #118

I care what he did but I don't care if you care or not 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #89

I think that you're entitled to your opinion CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #91

A lot of rammin' this issue to suddenly nilesobek Feb 2016 #93

Truth be told, my opinions on this matter Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #116

i don't think people are getting the issue you have with this JI7 Feb 2016 #95

and bingo was his name... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #101

you might want to edit JI7 Feb 2016 #125

Will do... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #130

As a Black man, My Vote is for BERNIE! nt quantumjunkie Feb 2016 #104

I don't. Hopefully you will look at all the candidates, just like everyone else, PatrickforO Feb 2016 #106

You should not care much, and you should demand more. mhatrw Feb 2016 #112

As an old white woman and HRC supporter gwheezie Feb 2016 #119

If a candidate was a member of the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood 50 years ago gyroscope Feb 2016 #121

Hold on...I never said that Bernie's civil rights activities weren't significant. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #126

You may not care, but most people do gyroscope Feb 2016 #131

But there's entire ranges of time, here Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #133

Who are you, and why should I care WHAT you think? closeupready Feb 2016 #124

MUST we turn this into a New York v. Chicago thing?, lol Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #134

Seemed ripe. closeupready Feb 2016 #138

Symone Sanders will be very interested to hear that she isn't black eridani Feb 2016 #143

I'm quoting from an old piece Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #146

she was hired July 2015 n/t eridani Feb 2016 #149

Uh, Sanders had a history Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #150

A history of living in a mostly white state eridani Feb 2016 #156

as if there weren't qualified blacks Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #161

Have you heard of one that aopplied for a position and was turned down? n/t eridani Feb 2016 #162

No... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #165

No, they didn't ask that specific question n/t eridani Feb 2016 #169

Here you go Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #174

Not seeing that there is a black job applicant who got told "no go" from Sanders eridani Feb 2016 #175

If you are "meh" on Sanders. how are you not also "meh" on Obama? mhatrw Feb 2016 #152

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #166

Because the Clinton campaign made it an issue. In reality, most of us Sanders supporters mikehiggins Feb 2016 #173

& once again the point of the OP flies over ppls head giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #178

Most moving testimony (for Bernie) yet; brought tears to my eyes. polly7 Feb 2016 #186

K&R SMC22307 Feb 2016 #192

Because it's very clear Bernie gave a shit from day one. Vinca Feb 2016 #193

Hillary was a Goldwater girl! zappaman Feb 2016 #197

is it a Dutch Oven or a Hot Box? bettyellen Feb 2016 #202

So don't vote for him tularetom Feb 2016 #201

Somewhere in here he says he hates Clinton about the same. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #204

I don't "hate" Clinton or Sanders Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #213

Because this: It shows a soild track record Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #203

You know, as a white woman of a certain age, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #209

I have scratched my head every time I see some DUer post the pic of Sanders getting arrested Number23 Feb 2016 #211

Bernie's History is important for us all when we are trying to decide who we vote for. charliebinky Feb 2016 #218