2016 Postmortem

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132. I saw that on the thread but I'm not sure why you were bent on civil rights.

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:26 AM

Feb 2016

I don't think any sanders supporters are pushing civil rights as a reason for voting for Bernie.

Google any issue with hillary and the word super pac. That's the reason to not vote for Hillary. Then if you change the name to Bernie it's like good vs. evil running.

Just saying.

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Why do y'all think I (as a black man) care all that much about what Bernie did over 50 years ago? [View all] Chitown Kev Feb 2016 OP

I'm 100% sure you don't care much Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #1

I'm not sure what you do or don't care about. I do support Sanders, if that counts. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #2

Oh, I don't mind that you do support Sanders Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #7

Obviously what he did 50 years ago was important, especially in light of a smear campaign. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #14

I don't see anybody obsessing about it. trillion Feb 2016 #16

Its what everyone made happen, Not Bernie personally. Kokonoe Feb 2016 #41

Have you seen what this man has been fighting for.... us... from the bottom up.. berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #158

Spare me the superhero rhetoric, please. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #159

He kinda is a political superhero... jump on board.. berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #164

I don't believe in political superheroes Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #170

how bout fdr or king ..i consider king a political superhero too berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #172

That's a heck of a lot of writing for somebody that doesn't care Xipe Totec Feb 2016 #3

I am wondering the same thing. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #61

Good question. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #117

hmmmnn. frylock Feb 2016 #153

And apparently, if you didn't do it yesterday, it doesn't count. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #176

And melman Feb 2016 #196

When I see long-term patterns of behavior it tells me something about a person's character. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #4

I also don't care bravenak Feb 2016 #5

I mean...it's nice...it's a data point Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #13

If it were an ongoing thing I might care bravenak Feb 2016 #21

Yes, Berine has been a weak advocate over the years compared to Hillary whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #33

He was being paid for his time in government bravenak Feb 2016 #46

What are you trying to say? That only if he had been paid that otherwise he would not have done Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #181

And what do you think his black constituents are looking at? trillion Feb 2016 #49

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #6

You don't care farleftlib Feb 2016 #8

This is why I was so against limiting this to candidates older than my retired parents Recursion Feb 2016 #9

I had a good look at those POC entrance polls in Iowa Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #57

Yeah. I don't think the party is taking these warning signs nearly seriously enough Recursion Feb 2016 #60

Not good enough, Bernie whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #10

and throw in no depth like, why. trillion Feb 2016 #25

No, I'm a Bernie supporter whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #27

Ok, but I keep seeing it from Hillary supporters. trillion Feb 2016 #34

It's a mocking post I suppose. n/t whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #37

I haven't got any idea what you, as a black man, cheapdate Feb 2016 #11

Well, you asked Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #43

Largely agree. cheapdate Feb 2016 #53

I read your article. You clearly don't bother to vet anybody and just write. trillion Feb 2016 #109

That's funny...I don't even own a TV Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #123

Dude! I'm begging you. trillion Feb 2016 #127

I'm more informed than you give me credit for Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #129

I saw that on the thread but I'm not sure why you were bent on civil rights. trillion Feb 2016 #132

"I (as a black man) get to make a determination of my own" Armstead Feb 2016 #12

I guess you don't care what ANY person fighting for civil rights did 50 years ago. So I don't care. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #15

It's not that I don't care Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #17

What bullshit. You use time as a measurement of whether an accomplishment or effort is noteworthy. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #51

What disturbs me about the "what have you done for us *lately*" line........ pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #137

Very insightful post. Thank you. n/t JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #141

TY! :-) NT pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #154

I agree. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #155

"So why have so many Sanders supporters.........." pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #160

Now we're getting somewhere... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #163

"The black experience with regard to voting is almost always "the lesser of two evils"." pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #171

So Sanders is the problem in the OP, but his supporters are the problem in post 155. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #167

* pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #215

Trail of Tears. artislife Feb 2016 #139

My Great Grandparents are both on the Dawes Roll... I've even posted their number here. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #148

Interesting. I'll say one thing about all this "Bernie is or isn't X, Y, or Z"... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #187

I'd read that post if I really cared what you care about. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #18

Because it's wise to judge people by their actions in the past, not their empty promises LittleBlue Feb 2016 #19

This data doesn't equate. Kittycat Feb 2016 #55

Chicage Trib: "Hey, let's publish the picture. Chitown Kev may care". HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #20

What somebody did over 50 years ago only matters when it is John Lewis apparently!nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #22

No, it's not that it's not important data to have... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #28

I believe that desmiller Feb 2016 #62

If your measure... MellowDem Feb 2016 #23

It's "a part" of the measure... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author 2banon Feb 2016 #24

Exactly -- vote against your own best interests. nichomachus Feb 2016 #31

Awww jeez, not this shit again... Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #26

Yup farleftlib Feb 2016 #40

When I see the insensitivity to your post ... Onlooker Feb 2016 #29

Amen. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #42

Thank you for this. Empowerer Feb 2016 #56

Which post makes it difficult for you to distinguish Donald Trump from Bernie Sanders? I'd love to DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #114

Only sometimes???? Number23 Feb 2016 #145

When I see the insensitivity of your post frylock Feb 2016 #157

Ones color has nothing to do with what I want them to understand SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #30

Excuse me, this conversation started with the summer of "he marched with Martin" Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #35

I accept your apology SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #39

Because I start by assuming anyone on DU is NOT ahistorical. You obviously are, so I KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #36

You had not crossed my mind but I watched Jonathan Capehart make a rather large deal about Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #38

Bernie's and bernie supporters not entirely innocent in all of this, IMO Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #47

Cape hart never claimed that Sanders did not participate in the civil rights movement Empowerer Feb 2016 #59

Capeheart was throwing shade, you can be sure of that Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #64

Throwing shade is very different than claiming that he didn't participate in the movement, Empowerer Feb 2016 #85

He certainly was. And trying to misdirect people to focus on bullshit bravenak Feb 2016 #110

No, but he did fail in his primary job as a "journalist", and he's lied. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #87

If you're going to accuse him of lying, best not to lie about what you're accusing him of Empowerer Feb 2016 #92

I'm not lying. He was. I know this. I have documentary evidence. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #96

He did not claim that Sanders did not participate in the civil rights movement Empowerer Feb 2016 #98

Neat-o. What's that got to do with anything? I'd refer you back to the antecedents (above). DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #102

He tried to create doubt. And failed MISERABLY. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #103

That's fine. But if if someone's going to claim he lied, they shouldn't lie about what he said . . . Empowerer Feb 2016 #105

Wait! Actually, he did lie. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #107

I know Capehart lied. But I still have this DU'er you're addressing telling me I'm the liar. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #168

I opt for countering the spin. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #188

Well, I'm going to keep trying with respect to Capehart. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #189

Wonder what his next hit piece will be... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #191

I'm not sure what his next hit piece will be, but I'm pretty sure there were some people DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #194

I didn't lie. I can back up my claim. You're going to need to be careful about accusing me of lying. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #195

Capehart kept on banging his drum about that photo Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #177

Capehart did not write that Sanders did not participate in the civil rights movement Empowerer Feb 2016 #182

Capehart insisted the campaign photo was not Sanders Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #183

Whatever Empowerer Feb 2016 #185

Thank you. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #44

Why do you think I (as an old woman) care if you care... malokvale77 Feb 2016 #45

I think we're all entitled to our opinions... Nacho-_-Bandito Feb 2016 #48

and..what do you care what the Clintons did 20 years ago? islandmkl Feb 2016 #50

Michelle Alexander Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #54

so Michelle Alexander is what? you seem to be too young to know what it took islandmkl Feb 2016 #68

Read my sentence very very carefully.... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #72

i would hope that wasn't your intention...whoever is 'treating her that way' could be anyone islandmkl Feb 2016 #73

To translate: Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #77

really? she is the only voice with that message? islandmkl Feb 2016 #86

I've been talking about Michelle Alexander's work since Jan 29th of....2014 PotatoChip Feb 2016 #184

How old are you? panader0 Feb 2016 #52

How old are you? sheshe2 Feb 2016 #67

What does John Lewis have to do with the post you were replying to? JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #144

Are you a board monitor? sheshe2 Feb 2016 #151

+10 840high Feb 2016 #135

I don't care if the author cares Vattel Feb 2016 #58

Socio-economic equality and racial justice is NOT a single issue struggle. 2banon Feb 2016 #63

I don't need you to lecture me on this. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #69

I know you know it's a discussion board. People get to talk. It's all good. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #100

The implication was made Bernie is running a single issue campaign 2banon Feb 2016 #122

There is a word for what you are doing here. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #65

It doesn't matter to me either KingFlorez Feb 2016 #66

I agree he could have done more. trillion Feb 2016 #70

Just want to say, I appreciate your consistent postings about vetting. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #147

Thank you! trillion Feb 2016 #212

Why do you think *we* care about what *you* care about? SMC22307 Feb 2016 #71

My views on Sanders' SNCC stuff Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #74

No offense, but that doesn't interest me. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #75

But are you bringing this out anywhere else outside of DU or Kos? Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #94

Of course. Primarily at work... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #99

Don't tell anyone this... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #108

Your secret is safe with me. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2016 #111

LOL! Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #180

Able to laugh at 6:48 a.m. -- I'm impressed! SMC22307 Feb 2016 #190

I'm still laughing too Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #207

The Communist Northern Virginia part. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #210

The wealthiest part of the country too Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #214

Ha, we may not be as hardcore as, say, Del Ray, but we're close. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #216

That's so good to hear Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #217

Hey, can you give a better link or tell me where to read on that page? trillion Feb 2016 #79

DK has been a hot mess since the upgrade Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #97

I'm not brow beating anyone about the importance of Sander's civil rights activites. trillion Feb 2016 #120

OK you bring up Flint... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #128

I would say Hillary is pandering to Flint only for vote and isn't actually interested in them. trillion Feb 2016 #136

Why are you bringing up Hillary Clinton to me? Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #140

environmental racism is too general a term. trillion Feb 2016 #142

It's fine and dandy that you share your thoughts in a form of a passage, but.... desmiller Feb 2016 #80

Oh, I am voting in the primary Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #115

I like this part Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #179

and Hillary worked for the Children's Defense Fund right out of Yale Law School Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #198

Yes she did Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #199

Why not? Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #200

Kev, it's everything else with her Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #205

But I'm not talking about the "everything else" Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #206

The everything else weighs too heavily for me Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #208

I understand. I feel the same way as a woman when people tell me I should vote for jillan Feb 2016 #76

Yeah...I mean Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #82

[exhale] pick a topic and vet her. trillion Feb 2016 #90

Thanks for your comments. lovemydog Feb 2016 #78

I believe Hillary will impede criminal justice reform because she's been on the profiting side of trillion Feb 2016 #83

Thanks for the info. lovemydog Feb 2016 #88

are you? just asking, because everybody is something on the internet... islandmkl Feb 2016 #81

Why should it matter? NWCorona Feb 2016 #84

When they said had none working for him bravenak Feb 2016 #113

Not in the link that you read... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #118

I care what he did but I don't care if you care or not 2pooped2pop Feb 2016 #89

I think that you're entitled to your opinion CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #91

A lot of rammin' this issue to suddenly nilesobek Feb 2016 #93

Truth be told, my opinions on this matter Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #116

i don't think people are getting the issue you have with this JI7 Feb 2016 #95

and bingo was his name... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #101

you might want to edit JI7 Feb 2016 #125

Will do... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #130

As a Black man, My Vote is for BERNIE! nt quantumjunkie Feb 2016 #104

I don't. Hopefully you will look at all the candidates, just like everyone else, PatrickforO Feb 2016 #106

You should not care much, and you should demand more. mhatrw Feb 2016 #112

As an old white woman and HRC supporter gwheezie Feb 2016 #119

If a candidate was a member of the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood 50 years ago gyroscope Feb 2016 #121

Hold on...I never said that Bernie's civil rights activities weren't significant. Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #126

You may not care, but most people do gyroscope Feb 2016 #131

But there's entire ranges of time, here Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #133

Who are you, and why should I care WHAT you think? closeupready Feb 2016 #124

MUST we turn this into a New York v. Chicago thing?, lol Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #134

Seemed ripe. closeupready Feb 2016 #138

Symone Sanders will be very interested to hear that she isn't black eridani Feb 2016 #143

I'm quoting from an old piece Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #146

she was hired July 2015 n/t eridani Feb 2016 #149

Uh, Sanders had a history Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #150

A history of living in a mostly white state eridani Feb 2016 #156

as if there weren't qualified blacks Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #161

Have you heard of one that aopplied for a position and was turned down? n/t eridani Feb 2016 #162

No... Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #165

No, they didn't ask that specific question n/t eridani Feb 2016 #169

Here you go Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #174

Not seeing that there is a black job applicant who got told "no go" from Sanders eridani Feb 2016 #175

If you are "meh" on Sanders. how are you not also "meh" on Obama? mhatrw Feb 2016 #152

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #166

Because the Clinton campaign made it an issue. In reality, most of us Sanders supporters mikehiggins Feb 2016 #173

& once again the point of the OP flies over ppls head giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #178

Most moving testimony (for Bernie) yet; brought tears to my eyes. polly7 Feb 2016 #186

K&R SMC22307 Feb 2016 #192

Because it's very clear Bernie gave a shit from day one. Vinca Feb 2016 #193

Hillary was a Goldwater girl! zappaman Feb 2016 #197

is it a Dutch Oven or a Hot Box? bettyellen Feb 2016 #202

So don't vote for him tularetom Feb 2016 #201

Somewhere in here he says he hates Clinton about the same. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #204

I don't "hate" Clinton or Sanders Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #213

Because this: It shows a soild track record Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #203

You know, as a white woman of a certain age, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #209

I have scratched my head every time I see some DUer post the pic of Sanders getting arrested Number23 Feb 2016 #211

Bernie's History is important for us all when we are trying to decide who we vote for. charliebinky Feb 2016 #218