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2016 Postmortem

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MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 09:35 PM Oct 2012

May I inject a brief history lesson into all of this poll panic? [View all]

During the 1984 campign, the news media was TOTALLY in the bag for reagan to have a landslide over the Mondale/Ferraro ticket. We were being deluged by the media every day prior to the first debate that it was going to be the political equivalent of a public execution and that Mondale had NO CHANCE against "the great communicator".

In the first debate, Mondale was in control from the opening statement and reagan was every bit the senile, doddering old idiot that he was ever since a few months after he was shot. I remember a highly placed Democrat proclaiming that there was now a new "great communicator". Mondale's highlight in that debate was how he was able to turn the tables on reagan when he again used the "there you go again" line that he'd used (pretty effectively) against President Carter in their 1980 debate.

A few days later, Geraldine Ferraro did pretty damned well against bush senior in thei VP debate. Mondale/Ferraro went from being down by 15 to down by 4 in a matter of days.

In the second debate, reagan used a line about Mondale's "youth and inexperience" to "win" their second and final debate.

We all remember who won that election and by how much. For those of you who weren't around then, it wasn't Mondale.

One consequence that I'm sure the media hasn't anticipated is that now, going into the second debate, the expectaions for President Obama are near zero in the public's collective mind. The media has been on a steady drumbeat of willard's brilliance as a debater. They kinda forget willard's biggest problem, which is that willard is STOOOOOPID!

I'm fully expecting a very significant turnaround after the second Obama/willard debate. Our president is a very intelligent and very competitive man. He won't allow this to happen to him twice.

That's my 2 cents, and quite possibly overpriced at that!

PEACE!

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Good points.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #1
Your points are also good, but... MarianJack Oct 2012 #2
I am expecting Rmoney to be nothing short of incredible. klook Oct 2012 #3
willard is a GENIUS!!! MarianJack Oct 2012 #7
Second debate will be nice but... fugop Oct 2012 #4
Joe Biden comes off as very "aw, shucks" but he is smart as a whip Lex Oct 2012 #5
I dislike ryan almost as much as... MarianJack Oct 2012 #6
Hey! Don't you come in here with your "logic" and "facts" Doctor Jack Oct 2012 #8
LOL! Shhh.. I need you all to be quiet so I can not be distracted.. Cha Oct 2012 #9
Sorry, Doctor Jack! MarianJack Oct 2012 #17
Your points are strong, but your strongest is about the expectations... Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #10
I,too, am waiting for the real President Obama to show up. MarianJack Oct 2012 #15
Applause to you! Charlotte Little Oct 2012 #11
"no battle was ever won in a fetal position". MarianJack Oct 2012 #14
Reagan was never behind this late. Neither were Clinton or Bush II. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #12
Debate prep IS a drag. Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #13
Hey, the guy had pizzas to deliver. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #21
If you insist on panicing over a speed bump,... MarianJack Oct 2012 #16
'a speed bump' TroyD Oct 2012 #18
I simply believe in my candidate, as well as... MarianJack Oct 2012 #19
James Carville predicts Obama will still win : ) TroyD Oct 2012 #23
I repectfully disagree about... MarianJack Oct 2012 #24
Speed bump? He drove his car into the ditch. nt geek tragedy Oct 2012 #20
This is all very correctable. MarianJack Oct 2012 #22
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