2016 Postmortem

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5. Don't agree with a lot of it, but nothing to alert on, IMO

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On what is going on here (and the real world) [View all] nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 OP

"We have a failed democracy" ... and Capitalism SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #1

Capitalism won Hydra Feb 2016 #133

Great op Nadine. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #2

If the two parties remain beholden to WS nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #4

We badly need a Labor/Progressive party. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #63

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2016 #71

Vacuums are filled. bvar22 Feb 2016 #134

Let me give you a hand. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #145

I have to ask: Where is this swell of support at the voting booth. Turnout is low Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #139

Very well said. basselope Feb 2016 #3

Don't agree with a lot of it, but nothing to alert on, IMO Hoyt Feb 2016 #5

Thanks for this post Nadin, well done and I see the same things! nt haikugal Feb 2016 #6

Clinton could have run an honorable campaign. She chose not to. Armstead Feb 2016 #7

The sad thing.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #29

Or fuel a third party spoiler campaign like the Greens Armstead Feb 2016 #31

I expect the vacuum in the left side of poltics nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #36

Agreed MissDeeds Feb 2016 #33

How exactly has Clinton not run an honorable campaign? Justice Feb 2016 #106

How long would you like this response? tonybgood Feb 2016 #146

Ha! Have you seen the vitriol from the BS group? katmille Feb 2016 #155

It is 80-20 in my experience nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #158

Like all conservatives, she fails miserably on the issues. That leaves smears, Doctor_J Feb 2016 #165

I will not say who I will vote for in November but I will say this. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #8

Yup we are in the 40 percent nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #10

When we were in the minority they knew they could abuse us and just demand our vote. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #12

Nope, and in my state, an open primary state nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #13

Semi-open state here VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #23

I am quite cynical about elections nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #27

Oh Christ, Jib Jab. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #28

It is indeed a classic nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #30

wow! dana_b Feb 2016 #9

Do me a favor and see if you find other people nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #11

Sure dana_b Feb 2016 #25

On facebook, you seen the bullying going on constantly, without letup. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #43

I have unfollowed people nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #46

Not outliers at all. nt malokvale77 Feb 2016 #95

I bet there are some people who would vote for Trump just for the hell of it, see what happens. Sad. thereismore Feb 2016 #14

And I think there are people who will stay home nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #15

At least he is against TPP, and is really an atheist even though he poses as a Christian. thereismore Feb 2016 #19

The democratic race will be done by June nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #21

I'm alerting on this olddots Feb 2016 #16

They value power and money nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #17

My 18 yo sent me a reddit link dragonfly301 Feb 2016 #18

Those of us that are older know that fights this big don't happen overnight. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #20

This kid is stubborn dragonfly301 Feb 2016 #24

And he should be disgusted. I'm glad the Millennials are willing to work outside the liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #42

That is partly becuase kids (and many of their elders) nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #22

The Words Are SO TRUE, SO RIGHT....Thank You For Saying It...K/R!!! LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #26

K & R!!! Thespian2 Feb 2016 #32

Excellent post, nadin MissDeeds Feb 2016 #34

very well said and what I've posited all along is that the real threat to Hillary azurnoir Feb 2016 #35

Another post to add to my DUers who think Trunp'll win bookmarks. joshcryer Feb 2016 #37

Do You Think... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #39

I think Trump is the worst candidate the GOP can run. joshcryer Feb 2016 #45

Bob Dole ..... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #47

OP isn't about Rubio. joshcryer Feb 2016 #54

Who Knows What Sanders Would Do... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #60

Sanders has integrity. joshcryer Feb 2016 #68

Sanders is a Candidate... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #74

What is stupid is not recognizing that the Big Money, the PTB, the Oligarchy or whatever you rhett o rick Feb 2016 #131

I actually think it's the other way around. JoeyT Feb 2016 #140

Rubio cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #142

And another false charge that this is a post in support of Trump nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #51

I never said that. joshcryer Feb 2016 #58

Ok let's widen this nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #59

PUMAS said this crap about Obama in 2008. joshcryer Feb 2016 #61

Thanks for the excellent example of what happens nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #65

This is rich. joshcryer Feb 2016 #73

And I fucking can't wait for the dems nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #78

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #81

And I cannot take you seriously anymore nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #84

I don't care! joshcryer Feb 2016 #90

You mean like 2010 nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #92

Low voter turnout is due to Democrat bashing. joshcryer Feb 2016 #96

Nope nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #97

Tell that to John Bel Edwards. joshcryer Feb 2016 #99

We will win... or perhaps not nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #104

Oh, get over yourself. nt malokvale77 Feb 2016 #101

This and This.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #62

There is still time? I'm not so sure. John Poet Feb 2016 #103

There might be time nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #105

perhaps there is some grounds for legal action against du'ers who have this opinion? Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #110

Maybe if I get drunk. joshcryer Feb 2016 #112

k&R Thank for posting Mbrow Feb 2016 #38

Let me know, Nadine, if anybody alerts on this. longship Feb 2016 #40

Your comment was alerted on. senz Feb 2016 #118

I am sorry, but this is pathethic nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #123

It's like trying to get through a swarm of wasps. senz Feb 2016 #125

No! Given what Nadine has endured here, longship Feb 2016 #126

Thanks my friend nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #127

No problem. Some principles are worth sticking up for. longship Feb 2016 #129

Awesome OP, Nadin! I live in California too, so there is that. ebayfool Feb 2016 #41

This primary is bad nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #49

Spot on....thank you for this insightful post. democrank Feb 2016 #44

K & R Petrushka Feb 2016 #48

You're right. Establishment Dems zentrum Feb 2016 #50

Predictably, I hang with some Hillary supporters. MoonRiver Feb 2016 #52

Part of it is that she's literally... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #55

And predictably I had my identity as a minorty nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #56

Well, I wish you the best. MoonRiver Feb 2016 #64

There are two sites that have been set up specifically to viciously attack BS supporters Arazi Feb 2016 #128

Wander out of the Pullman car, did you? okasha Feb 2016 #132

You have the more accurate perspective in this Dem2 Feb 2016 #135

Great post! nt Duval Feb 2016 #53

whatever happens PatrynXX Feb 2016 #57

I can't believe ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #66

Nope, I would prefer a democrat nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #67

K&R for a voice of reason and clarity. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #69

...per your analogy, Nyarlathotep runs on GOP ticket. Jezza Feb 2016 #70

Hey Jezza ... welcome to the DU MichaelSoE Feb 2016 #102

We disagree on some things in the past but I agree with your analysis on this 2banon Feb 2016 #72

Both the dems and R's in CA nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #77

It's all about My Team vs. Your Team and the internet makes it much, much worse. alarimer Feb 2016 #75

Given that this has crossed into real life nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #79

All we have to do is look at 1892. Or 1912. Or 1924. DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #76

Agreed and every time nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #80

My vote only counts in the Primary. R. P. McMurphy Feb 2016 #82

You have the same freedom as Californians nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #85

As for the 2 party system, leftcoastmountains Feb 2016 #83

Yup nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #86

They will not vote for her, period amborin Feb 2016 #87

That is the point. I know. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #88

People are paying attention, hence the panic (nt) Babel_17 Feb 2016 #89

This totally rings true for my experience, but in the opposite way... anotherproletariat Feb 2016 #91

Well I suspect that is also going on nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #93

This was an awesome and well thought out post. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #94

Hey Nadin - This is one of the best things I've read from you. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #98

We try and trust me, the local Police Chief nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #116

I find this OP to be very one sided. one_voice Feb 2016 #100

Of course you do nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #107

Great post. zappaman Feb 2016 #111

I am surprised you identify as "undecided" since your comments senz Feb 2016 #115

Well somebody told me here yesterday that of course I had to be a Bernie supporter nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #117

Sorry! I meant that for "one voice." senz Feb 2016 #120

I just agreed with you nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #121

come again? one_voice Feb 2016 #119

Okay, good job. senz Feb 2016 #122

I was originally an O'Malley supporter.. one_voice Feb 2016 #124

If Hillary Does Indeed Win the Primaries, On the Road Feb 2016 #108

Good OP nadin. malokvale77 Feb 2016 #109

K&R rosesaylavee Feb 2016 #113

You welcome nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #114

I'm late to the party but kick and rec! Good job eom Arazi Feb 2016 #130

This is exactly how Clinton wins... PeterGM Feb 2016 #136

"Clinton is likely going to win the battle, but badly lose the war." K&R Hiraeth Feb 2016 #137

Thank you for the post. jalan48 Feb 2016 #138

I agree nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #152

I was conscious, in a way :) jalan48 Feb 2016 #160

Literally my brother (RIP) was graduating nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #161

That's a great memory. The times were more charged then or magical i think. jalan48 Feb 2016 #162

I know and with things like Climate change nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #163

Yep-we have to keep fighting the good fight. jalan48 Feb 2016 #164

I've never seen such an ugly primary. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #141

Now Bernie Supporters come here. We need to have this talk. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #143

I meant no ill nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #149

I meant no ill AlbertCat Feb 2016 #151

I don't agree with some of this, but most of it, yes. Long-term. closeupready Feb 2016 #144

FL, OH, and VA. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #147

I agree with you. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #150

Very well said, nadin, thank you. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #148

Don't give up yet! It really is still very early. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #153

You are addressing the wrong person nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #154

Thanks For This Post... I HAVE A HUGE Problem Because ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #156

SORRY, Forgot To Add MSM & Especially MSNBC Who Also ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #157

Yeah you are in one of those states where voting against the R will be the option nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #159

K&R n/t Jon Ace Feb 2016 #166