2016 Postmortem

wildeyed

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147. Because the burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim,

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:35 PM

Feb 2016

and is not upon anyone else to disprove.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

Example: Bertrand declares that a teapot is, at this very moment, in orbit around the Sun between the Earth and Mars, and that because no one can prove him wrong, his claim is therefore a valid one.

Example: Bread and Circus declares that "People (which people said this, exactly?) often say "maybe the Democratic Party, or at least certain core constituencies (which ones, exactly? do tell) within it, are not ready for a jewish President." "I would appreciate any counter evidence that would refute what I am reading"

If you are right, then show me the proof. It is not incumbent on me to prove that your bitter and divisive musings are wrong, any more than I must prove that a teapot is now in orbit around the sun.

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Anti-semitism, the 800lb gorilla in the room that nobody seems to want to talk about [View all] Bread and Circus Feb 2016 OP

you should send this to the GOP mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #1

You can't really believe that. cali Feb 2016 #2

I wouldn't think they are Nixonian either. eom. Bad Thoughts Feb 2016 #3

Ok, well Dems are neither sexists nor racists either but that hasn't slowed down the accusations rhett o rick Feb 2016 #136

Thank again TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #173

I've been accused of being one every time I supported the Palestinians when they were getting trillion Feb 2016 #200

hey I don't think mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #201

I wouldn't think you would. Or anyone here. I'd hope not at least. trillion Feb 2016 #203

Yeah. Funny how not wanting innocent people to get blown to bits makes you the evil one. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #228

This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #4

agree mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #6

Anti-semitism could certainly be a factor. cali Feb 2016 #7

so could space-based mind control laser beams. geek tragedy Feb 2016 #59

It's hardly a secret that there is a greater rate of anti-semitism cali Feb 2016 #81

it hasn't been an issue since we booted Cynthia McKinney and her loathsome papa to the curb. geek tragedy Feb 2016 #84

I agree. It's much improved. cali Feb 2016 #95

It must be a secret since I didn't get the memo that the Black community is a bunch of anti-semites politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #117

Heads up. This is an ism that must not be discussed! ebayfool Feb 2016 #293

I agree with your analysis Gothmog Feb 2016 #68

there's a reason why it's taboo. This thread is likely going cali Feb 2016 #5

Taboo is where real meat is but nobody wants to open the can of worm - Israel kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #37

That has been opened. not what I was referring to. cali Feb 2016 #44

I think it has been a good discussion so far. Not ugly by GDP standards. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Feb 2016 #101

Because it isn't just one core constituency. Go do some research. You might be surprised. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Feb 2016 #105

archive.adl.org/anti_semitism_domestic/ADL-2011-Anti-Semitism_Presentation.pdf Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #149

Try again. This pure shit stirring. Hekate Feb 2016 #167

Did this thread get alerted? I didn't know that. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #172

I have no idea. I just generally add a note to any potential jury to avoid misunderstanding of.... Hekate Feb 2016 #174

Thanks for the warning. I'm getting off the thread then. trillion Feb 2016 #204

I don't see anything like that in the Democratic Party leftofcool Feb 2016 #8

I disagree. As a black man who grew up in the black NWCorona Feb 2016 #118

Very interesting elleng Feb 2016 #141

Interesting &sad, because a lot of the "white people" who went down South in Freedom Summer.... Hekate Feb 2016 #170

Welcome to DU! Arazi Feb 2016 #241

Thanks! NWCorona Feb 2016 #244

I disagree. Bernie is a white man ecstatic Feb 2016 #277

I'm not saying all blacks and thanks! NWCorona Feb 2016 #281

Not all? Try very few, if any. I've never heard anyone make ecstatic Feb 2016 #287

Food for thought NWCorona Feb 2016 #291

Yup, nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #321

Read this article and think again TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #175

What " core constituency" in the Democratic party sufrommich Feb 2016 #9

I don't think the op said that cali Feb 2016 #10

oh we know which one the OP means dsc Feb 2016 #11

The op means, I am assuming, that cali Feb 2016 #12

Maybe, Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #23

I don't think that's the case at all. That is a false generalization. George II Feb 2016 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Feb 2016 #51

+1 JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #177

The establishments temper tantrum will continue until the marginalized vote with them uponit7771 Feb 2016 #62

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #46

Or... maybe we don't like people who associates their campaigns with those who call the first black uponit7771 Feb 2016 #69

FWIW, I remember the "Hymie town" comment too. kath Feb 2016 #71

I don't see anyone in here vdogg Feb 2016 #301

Anti-semitism is probably there... a little bit... it would have to be. Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #13

Which core constituencies are you referencing? n/t Spazito Feb 2016 #14

BC, is Bernie a practicing Jew? kstewart33 Feb 2016 #15

Really? Allow me of o help you understand this widely know fact cali Feb 2016 #17

No thanks. I asked for an answer to my question, not condescending snark. nt kstewart33 Feb 2016 #21

Your question is fundamentally and fatally flawed. I explained why. cali Feb 2016 #25

Many Jews are supporting Clinton over Sanders Gothmog Feb 2016 #72

Ok they are not, then, basing their vote on any candidate's religion. JudyM Feb 2016 #242

It's not really about religion Krytan11c Feb 2016 #20

I don't think he practices. I know he doesn't practice dietary laws, but that doesn't mean much. MADem Feb 2016 #100

Thanks for answering my question. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #113

Neither does my husband. He's a Buddhist if anything. But he will ALWAYS be Jewish. Hekate Feb 2016 #311

No. Sanders is not an atheist which means holding a total disbelief in the existence mikehiggins Feb 2016 #130

I've noticed. JFK faced many of the same issues mmonk Feb 2016 #16

It is interesting many people here are acting all of a sudden that... Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #83

You just really want to make this an issue, don't you. Nobody is pretending any such thing. Hekate Feb 2016 #312

Agreed, this is somewhat akin to JFK nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #327

I don't see that being a factor bigwillq Feb 2016 #18

Nonsense. DCBob Feb 2016 #19

Don't even know? melman Feb 2016 #64

And here we go. NuclearDem Feb 2016 #22

I believe it is a factor, a strong factor. Autumn Feb 2016 #24

Thanks, Autumn. Hard to know how much of a factor it is cali Feb 2016 #26

It's very hard to know or even figure out how much a factor, I just know from my experience Autumn Feb 2016 #27

It is, I agree on this. Agschmid Feb 2016 #54

I agree that there are some people who are NOT supporting him for this reason. Agschmid Feb 2016 #53

Are you Jewish? I am Jew, and the OP all wet. I am not going to even dignify this flame bait still_one Feb 2016 #28

For second there I thought I read Led Zepplin. Ellipsis Feb 2016 #31

I just corrected. That is the ONLY republican person in Congress who is Jewish. All the others are still_one Feb 2016 #32

Ethnicity or race matters not to me or really even party Ellipsis Feb 2016 #33

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Feb 2016 #38

Thank for this, still one. Gods forbid Bernie could just fail in his attempt at the presidency... Hekate Feb 2016 #234

It is easy to blame someone or something else for our defeciencies, but this really takes the cake still_one Feb 2016 #239

You have some reading to do, my friend. There is data from multiple sources. And mentioned in this JudyM Feb 2016 #250

excuse me, maybe YOU have some reading to do. WHERE did I say that republicans are the ONLY still_one Feb 2016 #268

They are really going to run with this one, aren't they? Hekate Feb 2016 #276

It appears that way. still_one Feb 2016 #280

And I am a Jew too nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #323

It is likely to be true to an extent, how one measures that percent is where it gets tricky. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #29

The first person I've heard say "America is not ready for a jewish President" is you Renew Deal Feb 2016 #30

I have read that here. Also how many Jewish Presidents have we had? Duh. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #93

There's data, just google. JudyM Feb 2016 #252

So, the only evidence you have of this is that Bernie is losing. MoonRiver Feb 2016 #34

My dad was staunch Democrat--he was also anti-semitic panader0 Feb 2016 #35

Hmmm..... wildeyed Feb 2016 #194

Sorry rock Feb 2016 #36

Well at least that's a bit of recognition. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #94

One thing I do know - COLGATE4 Feb 2016 #39

I pointed this thinking out elsewhere in the thread... this notion that... Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #96

You should then supply us with this objective, peer-reviewed research supporting your premise. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #115

Heh. A lot of them don't like Masons either. Haters gotta hate. eom mikehiggins Feb 2016 #135

Well, it's because they really know COLGATE4 Feb 2016 #137

I get no sense of that at all. I'm pro-Bernie & Clinton is pissing me off a bit. But antisemitism? Bucky Feb 2016 #40

I haven't seen a single post, here on DU or anywhere else, that even mentions that Sanders.... George II Feb 2016 #41

Oh, there have been several bluntly anti-semitic posts from Hill cali Feb 2016 #45

I haven't seen any. In fact, I've seen people go out of their way to discuss issues themselves.... George II Feb 2016 #47

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #58

I find it very interesting that the accusations of "anti-Semitism" aren't addressed in the threads.. George II Feb 2016 #127

Cali, that is slander. This is a new low. Hekate Feb 2016 #238

Also interesting vdogg Feb 2016 #302

Interesting is certainly one word for it..... Hekate Feb 2016 #306

I have. Not a lot. But I have. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #88

Great! Let's see them! wildeyed Feb 2016 #224

Do you have some links? Hekate Feb 2016 #240

please stop with the Christiansplaining, to us Jewish folks. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #161

Results : LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #184

Ah, well. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #189

Believe it or not - jury results. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #185

Oooh Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #188

I know you are already aware of this... Behind the Aegis Feb 2016 #297

Aw, man. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #299

I have seen this and there have been posts on DU. Just keep your eyes open, we have nothing to JudyM Feb 2016 #254

"certain core constituencies??" firebrand80 Feb 2016 #43

African Americans. NuclearDem Feb 2016 #49

There must be *some* explanation firebrand80 Feb 2016 #52

I am trying to figure out why there is a huge disparity between the constiuentuents among Democrats. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Feb 2016 #85

No. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #89

then spell out exactly what you're suggesting with this OP, and why you hid behind the code language geek tragedy Feb 2016 #90

Waiting...... wildeyed Feb 2016 #212

so you deem explanations POC here at DU give as "magical"? How so? bettyellen Feb 2016 #206

that's lovely Quayblue Feb 2016 #76

I did detect this in the O/P Dem2 Feb 2016 #231

You know what, don't declare anti semitism absent and play it as an excuse because that can be JudyM Feb 2016 #255

Bernie Sanders isn't losing by double digits in South Carolina because of antisemitism. NuclearDem Feb 2016 #259

No actually it's not. But you can't hear that possibility so I'll let this go. JudyM Feb 2016 #272

Eric Cantor was sent to the US House from Virginia, and it's also in the South... Hekate Feb 2016 #308

Maybe to some extent speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #48

"certain core constituencies within it, are not ready for a jewish President. " geek tragedy Feb 2016 #50

"Core constituencies"? wildeyed Feb 2016 #55

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #56

Cowardly is right. wildeyed Feb 2016 #122

Over 300 posts and haven't seen the links yet. Must scrutinize more closely.... Hekate Feb 2016 #315

Gaaahhhh!!!!! wildeyed Feb 2016 #318

ooooo, so sorry Hekate Feb 2016 #322

from Nevada caucus, Hillary supporters: "don't vote for the SOCIALIST JEW" nashville_brook Feb 2016 #57

That video is a load.... wildeyed Feb 2016 #120

ONE person made a horrible racist remark (not even on video) .... TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #142

I did not participate in that conversation. wildeyed Feb 2016 #148

+100000 nashville_brook Feb 2016 #165

I was actually thinking that every time they cry sexism jillan Feb 2016 #60

so you're willing to falsely accuse people of ant-Jewish bigotry nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #61

it's as silly as falsely accusing people of sexism jillan Feb 2016 #63

some accusations of sexism have merit, others don't geek tragedy Feb 2016 #65

Calling Bernie a "crusty old Jew" or having a precinct capt in NV say the #1 reason to not vote jillan Feb 2016 #66

oh my, one person inartfully describing how Republicans will portray him and a precinct captain geek tragedy Feb 2016 #73

I don't understand..Republicans are anti-semitic but Democrats aren't? Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #79

Pay much attention to how Jews vote in elections? geek tragedy Feb 2016 #80

Do you know there is research to show that entrenched anti-semitism Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #86

how many Jewish Republicans are there in Congress? Your agenda seems to be that of the geek tragedy Feb 2016 #87

You can't prove or disprove things with just anecdotes. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #97

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #99

Go google it for yourself. Tell me what you find. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #106

you are the one making the claims. And you are refusing to provide any facts geek tragedy Feb 2016 #107

You are the one being personally insulting to me. Just google it. Prove me wrong. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #109

You continue to state you've been doing your own research to support your allegation LanternWaste Feb 2016 #132

Since you already did, and YOU made the OP, wildeyed Feb 2016 #126

I asked in the OP for links to suggest I am wrong. That's what my OP was for. So far I haven't seen Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #133

Because the burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, wildeyed Feb 2016 #147

archive.adl.org/anti_semitism_domestic/ADL-2011-Anti-Semitism_Presentation.pdf Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #151

As opposed to what? wildeyed Feb 2016 #154

Now you are just too lazy to read. It's a bunch of graphs. If you are too lazy to look through them Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #156

No. wildeyed Feb 2016 #160

Shrug all you want. It doesn't change anything. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #169

You're right, it doesn't. wildeyed Feb 2016 #191

This is odd logic... The fact that Jews are Dems and rethugs are however they are doesn't have any JudyM Feb 2016 #262

The precinct captain was shouted down. wildeyed Feb 2016 #121

The "Sander's is an old crusty "jew" remark here on DU was hidden by a jury. Autumn Feb 2016 #145

Great. wildeyed Feb 2016 #150

Rest assured, I and others noted the jury hid it. Autumn Feb 2016 #162

Good. wildeyed Feb 2016 #163

I am rested wildeyed Feb 2016 #180

You go, girl!! JudyM Feb 2016 #258

As a Jew, I do not see anti-semitism playing any role on the Democratic side Gothmog Feb 2016 #67

And you know it is false how? Because you don't personally see it? Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #70

I have heard many Jews supporting Clinton over Sanders at the Mens Service Auxillary and Temple Gothmog Feb 2016 #74

or it's possible these "core constituents" don't agree with the message(s) Quayblue Feb 2016 #75

That is absolutely one of many possible explanations. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #77

lol nt Quayblue Feb 2016 #119

I'm thinking they're in 'why bother' mode. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #78

who will be making such attacks? Hillary Clinton geek tragedy Feb 2016 #92

Probably not Depaysement Feb 2016 #98

Anti-semitism? Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #103

That, and the "old white guy" prejudice. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #104

so, Bernie Sanders is a victim of reverse racism and oppression at the hands of black people geek tragedy Feb 2016 #108

"old white guy" prejudice? Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #110

.... wildeyed Feb 2016 #225

I know! It's so sad how they've suffered! All these centuries, moving the levers of power. Oh my. Hekate Feb 2016 #309

Is Louis Farrakhan popular amywhere? moondust Feb 2016 #111

Not out campaigning with Democrats, wildeyed Feb 2016 #123

Is that the new meme? Beacool Feb 2016 #112

Nobody wants to talk about? NCTraveler Feb 2016 #114

Yeah, he would definitley be running away with it if he was a lapsed Catholic Freddie Stubbs Feb 2016 #116

Or black or female. wildeyed Feb 2016 #125

^^^^what you said^^^^ Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #192

bullshit. zappaman Feb 2016 #124

Maybe but there are jewish elected officials . we can see what percentage of support they got from JI7 Feb 2016 #128

this thread is interesting and illuminating 6chars Feb 2016 #129

Yes it is. Behind the Aegis Feb 2016 #140

Read my OP again. Read it carefully. No where did I "claim it as fact" that what I suggest... Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #143

IMO, your OP implies it. Behind the Aegis Feb 2016 #144

Why not "yet"? Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #146

I just don't agree the issue is as pronounced now. Behind the Aegis Feb 2016 #155

I was curious to see if you would respond since if I am not mistaken you support Bernie. stevenleser Feb 2016 #210

I haven't "picked a side". I have been accused/attacked for "supporting" both. Behind the Aegis Feb 2016 #296

This is why I'm glad we're friends! one_voice Feb 2016 #270

I am glad too! Behind the Aegis Feb 2016 #294

This article talks about anti-semitism in the Democratic Party TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #171

News from The Cato Institute! wildeyed Feb 2016 #218

Illegal proof reversal! wildeyed Feb 2016 #153

You know, that is Donald Trump's favorite technique. "Is Marco eligible to run for president? ... Hekate Feb 2016 #310

Nearly 30% of Black people according to the research cited in the OP are bigoted against Jews. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #314

You're asking me to download a pdf? No. Try another link. Hekate Feb 2016 #316

Wait...you spend all day on DU with 33,000 posts under your belt but taking 2 seconds to download... Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #320

I just got back from having a root canal, so I took time off from DU for that. Golly. Hekate Feb 2016 #324

Not awful. But you can't contest an argument if you purposefully try to remain ignorant.... Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #326

Well said and knocks the hat off of someone n/t JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #181

Well stated, Aegis. Hekate Feb 2016 #317

How does this baiting stay while innocuous posts from "core constituencies" get hidden? great white snark Feb 2016 #131

Discussing anti-semitism, which is very much a real and destructive thing, is race baiting? Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #134

Hmmm..... wildeyed Feb 2016 #157

Interesting that some here that have no problems with accusations of sexism or racism rhett o rick Feb 2016 #138

Funny how that works. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #139

When they demand proof that it does NOT exist, wildeyed Feb 2016 #152

This is a message board where we discuss these issues. But it seems that some discussions are off rhett o rick Feb 2016 #168

NO! wildeyed Feb 2016 #179

I have no problem with whatever "discussion" you wish to impart. What I don't rhett o rick Feb 2016 #182

Or if you understand logical fallacies. wildeyed Feb 2016 #186

And when similar things were said about Sanders supporters you made the same rhett o rick Feb 2016 #196

And we are going to switch the topic now..... wildeyed Feb 2016 #205

It's not hard for me and your saying such ends this discussion. Sooner or later rhett o rick Feb 2016 #247

Drama, drama..... wildeyed Feb 2016 #257

You guys that seem to worship at the alter of Goldman-Sachs. rhett o rick Feb 2016 #260

Nope! wildeyed Feb 2016 #266

I showed you it does exist so buzz off. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #178

No you didn't. wildeyed Feb 2016 #190

I am sorry but your fake exhibit of willful ignorance does you no favors. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #193

My reading comprehension is EXCELLENT. wildeyed Feb 2016 #202

There are facts in the link I gave you. You have responded with nothing. End of story. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #207

You gave me no facts. wildeyed Feb 2016 #209

I presented you with data, you have responded with screaming. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #216

Oh please. wildeyed Feb 2016 #222

If you read the data, you would see the trend hasn't changed that much thus 2011 is not out of date. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #230

2011 is old. wildeyed Feb 2016 #235

Yes, there is lots of racism (especially vs blacks) within the white community. I will admit that. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #237

No, I ALSO admit that there is much racism in the white community wildeyed Feb 2016 #245

Keep dancing...keep dancing. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #248

It ain't just a river.... wildeyed Feb 2016 #263

The last, desperate card to be played by Camp Sanders Tarc Feb 2016 #158

You are so wrong! dem in texas Feb 2016 #159

horse shit lamp_shade Feb 2016 #164

+1 wildeyed Feb 2016 #226

My experience in the BushCheney years was that it came from the Left and Far Left, not core Dems Hekate Feb 2016 #166

On what issues do your "mainstream Democrats" differ from the Left? rhett o rick Feb 2016 #176

First you need to establish okasha Feb 2016 #183

Eternal victim mentality is old DisgustedTX Feb 2016 #187

This OP sure seems to have worked some people up. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #195

Hardly. Any research by the OP would have revealed Bernie isn't a practicing Jewish man DisgustedTX Feb 2016 #198

As a non-practicing Jewish person, let me assure you that it doesn't matter to anti-Semites. stevenleser Feb 2016 #214

I don't think voters are that stupid to not know. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #217

I think many voters don't know. I also dont think it makes them stupid. Many are too busy stevenleser Feb 2016 #219

Your argument here is that there's no Anti-Semitism against non-practicing Jews? Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #246

Same people who hate President Obama hate Sen. Sanders. Octafish Feb 2016 #197

I haven't seen that at all. I doubt most people even know that BreakfastClub Feb 2016 #199

THIS shadowrider Feb 2016 #208

Nope. wildeyed Feb 2016 #211

Agreed shadowrider Feb 2016 #221

You are very wise. wildeyed Feb 2016 #223

There will be no honest discussion farleftlib Feb 2016 #213

Nope NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #215

And spent a metric shit-ton of money on ad buys. wildeyed Feb 2016 #227

So I did! NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #307

Remember Jesse Jackson's "Hymietown" remark. There is such a thing as black anti-semitism. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #220

it IS antisemitic since he used that term JI7 Feb 2016 #229

There's no excuse for his using that word. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #232

Don't want Bernie? "ANTI-SEMITE!" "HOLOCAUST!" "HITLER!" DisgustedTX Feb 2016 #233

Don't want Hillary? "MISOGYNISTIC BERNIEBRO!" Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #249

For months...and there's also an inference you are either racist or insensitive to minority concerns Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #253

Huh 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #264

I dont know. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #267

I didn't know this. Thank you for posting the information. Karmadillo Feb 2016 #236

I think I have a different take than a lot of people. lovemydog Feb 2016 #243

but addressing the real thing is different than imagining it under every rock to score points. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #251

Of course. And there's also a lot of denial about these things too. lovemydog Feb 2016 #261

I think the nonsense with Dolores Huerta is a glaringly perfect example. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #271

No, we disagree. lovemydog Feb 2016 #273

The allegation was specific. That Sanders supporters chanted "English Only" at DH. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #274

Even if it's not one hundred percent true, lovemydog Feb 2016 #285

I didn't say Dolores Huerta lied or that she deliberately misrepresented her own perception, even Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #295

Yeah, I was referring to other folks in the pro-Sanders camp lovemydog Feb 2016 #298

I, too, am tired of the fighting. I expected it, I mean I remember '04 and '08, but it gets old. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #300

It is extraordinarily interesting when you consider the numbers in the ADL study. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #275

But i thought sexism, racism, and a whole bunch of other -isms were unimportant? kjones Feb 2016 #256

I know one personally - my liberal Dem dad whose convinced Jews have too much influence Arazi Feb 2016 #265

No- it's your victimized imagination. DisgustedTX Feb 2016 #269

You have been given many different reasons for why some people aren't feeling the Bern ecstatic Feb 2016 #278

Honestly other than electability and historic precedent I haven't heard one plausible Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #279

I've found a dozen plausible reasons lovemydog Feb 2016 #282

There are plenty of threads disparaging Sanders supporters Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #283

Yes there are. And there are plenty of threads disparaging lovemydog Feb 2016 #288

Well good luck to you then is about all I can say. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #290

Thanks. Good luck to you too! lovemydog Feb 2016 #292

1. Bernie is promising shit he cannot deliver ecstatic Feb 2016 #284

Hillary promises to cure Alzheimers in 8 years. That is promising a Unicorn. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #286

I could care less if Sanders is Jewish, or an adherent of any other made up religion... brooklynite Feb 2016 #289

IF there's any Anti-Semitism, it's CERTAINLY at a much lower level than the misogyny. tarheelsunc Feb 2016 #303

How about a link melman Feb 2016 #305

I noticed. Anti-Semitic sites are now regularly sourced here by Sanders supporters. yardwork Feb 2016 #304

Adorable, isn't it. Hekate Feb 2016 #325

Yeah. Notice nobody even bothered to dispute the statement. yardwork Feb 2016 #328

stop. The anti-semitism that does exist here is mainly coming from those ericson00 Feb 2016 #313

I agree with you nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #319