2016 Postmortem

Hekate

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140. Sorry HillDawg, some people are just too far gone. Core Dems compromise to make progress....

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:13 AM

Feb 2016

...but the utterly pure never will -- like Cruz, for instance, who would be a new Savanarola; and the followers of Sanders who are so abundant here, secular Calvinists to whom compromise is hateful.

Bernie Sanders, as far as I can tell, is not like the followers he has inspired. He's a politician. He's a politician, for all that he's a crusty alta caca who shouts about the injustice of it all.

In the end, if Hillary is the nominee, he will shake her hand like a gentleman....and compromise so he gets something for his people. Because he has already gotten a LOT for his people, whether they acknowledge it or not, by pushing Hillary ever Lefter -- which strangely enough they resent the hell out of. Because they are not politicians. Or realists. They are pure. Gods help us all.

JURY: This is a personal opinion. Also a personal analysis of the situation here. I intend to hurt no feelings.

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For those saying you won't vote for the Democratic nominee [View all] HillDawg Feb 2016 OP

Very well said. nt kstewart33 Feb 2016 #1

Don't lecture to anyone. THe DNC has been floating ANY BODY BUT BERNIE Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #66

+1 Red Oak Feb 2016 #74

+2 azmom Feb 2016 #85

+1 Paka Feb 2016 #86

+10 JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #92

+100. Clinton is ballot poison. She has earned her reputation as untrustworthy and self-promoting Vote2016 Feb 2016 #114

+1 GoneFishin Feb 2016 #129

Bullshit, seeing how Bernie is nowhere close to winning Tarc Feb 2016 #143

The DLC never really went away... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #164

+10 True senz Feb 2016 #187

+200 artislife Feb 2016 #149

+2 840high Feb 2016 #150

+ 1 Well said! senz Feb 2016 #188

I refuse to vote for someone who will screw me. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #204

Thread thrashed / FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #2

Many people EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #3

Many HillDawg Feb 2016 #6

I'm not EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #9

Question. yallerdawg Feb 2016 #59

... *crickets* Agschmid Feb 2016 #156

-10 mean-spirited question senz Feb 2016 #191

Sorry EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #209

And what are you trying to suggest? sammythecat Feb 2016 #219

THAT IS GUARANTEED! She Will Inspire MASSIVE Crossover AGAINST HER! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #84

Yep. She could not win the GE. A vote for her in the primary is a vote for Trümp in the GE. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #128

wrong timmymoff Feb 2016 #98

^^^THIS^^^ haikugal Feb 2016 #7

The young Bernie supporters claim that they shouldn't vote for someone simply because they have a politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #37

All this FREE STUFF in caps repetition looks like something one would expect to see over at that ... Impedimentus Feb 2016 #40

I've been told before that my FREE STUFF mantra is right-wing propaganda. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #50

free stuff Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #63

well buddy it is right wing nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #71

Another resume poster extolling the resume candidate. Impedimentus Feb 2016 #94

I have no idea where you interpreted something I said as " religious business". and your politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #111

Please, feel free to explicitly call me a fool, or anything else that might make you feel better. Impedimentus Feb 2016 #121

Hillary reaching across the aisle to get stuff done... SMC22307 Feb 2016 #113

Perhaps staying up all night also makes you paranoid and you imagine things that don't exist. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #118

Power naps work wonders for clarity, and I love me a good power nap. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #120

Actually I've done okay thank you, the past few decades for a POC who was born and grew up in politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2016 #125

Tuned you out at "don't lecture me." (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2016 #126

Which Hillary are you voting for? A, or B? JDPriestly Feb 2016 #159

Or Kall Feb 2016 #185

Free stuff.... tommcc99 Feb 2016 #90

I am 55 and for Bernie. My two uterus carrying daughters are for Bernie CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #130

So is my daughter. 840high Feb 2016 #155

Yes, trash young voters for daring to disagree Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #135

..+1 840high Feb 2016 #160

This message was self-deleted by its author CobaltBlue Feb 2016 #174

Oh, you mean "free stuff" as in "Obamaphones?" senz Feb 2016 #196

On the other hand Andy823 Feb 2016 #133

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #4

+2 ~ +1 for the sentiment, and +1 for "gas soaked drawers" Lucinda Feb 2016 #31

I've said something similar about Republicans voting against HRC. Beartracks Feb 2016 #39

Okay ... then,wouldn't the optimal electoral strategy be to focus on ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #47

Agreed. In the GE, it's Big Picture time. Beartracks Feb 2016 #116

But there is a reason the Party seeks to avoid ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #122

my vote matters too Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #64

No one has said otherwise. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #123

Thank you. 840high Feb 2016 #152

I wouldn't count on it nt Depaysement Feb 2016 #106

Count on what? 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #124

This Depaysement Feb 2016 #211

Okay ... And that makes me sad ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #212

Not by me Depaysement Feb 2016 #213

It's just par for the course. It happens in every primary. I'm sure they will get BreakfastClub Feb 2016 #5

Okay.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #83

Us Bernie supporters are just lefty tea partyists as per Bill. Hillary doesn't need our votes. PonyUp Feb 2016 #8

Hehe. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #22

If it's more important to you to make a simplistic and empty statement, then go ahead Orrex Feb 2016 #61

This ^^^^^^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2016 #91

So now we are simple-minded and empty-headed. Got it. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #153

They're winning us over. 840high Feb 2016 #165

Well, since I wrote neither of those things, you must be responding to someone else Orrex Feb 2016 #210

Thank you. Great minds sarge43 Feb 2016 #73

Because she/they would like to beat the Republicans ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #127

Yes, we are useless Depaysement Feb 2016 #105

I hope you'll edit the title to say "Democratic". DavidDvorkin Feb 2016 #10

Just for you pal HillDawg Feb 2016 #11

Thank you. DavidDvorkin Feb 2016 #13

Ain't gonna matter Politicalboi Feb 2016 #12

Dead Repubs Will Rise From Their Graves To Vote AGAINST Hillary SoCalMusicLover Feb 2016 #14

The GOP thanks you. zappaman Feb 2016 #15

Just as they thank you for insisting on Hillary. n/t Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #75

Oh I remember that so well farleftlib Feb 2016 #20

For those who keep making this OP jeff47 Feb 2016 #16

It's tiresome. joshcryer Feb 2016 #23

Nope. I've sucked it up every year and played ball. Barack_America Feb 2016 #49

2010.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #88

Do you see a pattern? joshcryer Feb 2016 #102

So.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #103

I believe in the 50 State Strategy. joshcryer Feb 2016 #107

You Mean.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #109

You aren't third way, you just sound like it on DU, right? BillZBubb Feb 2016 #134

I listened to folk like you, Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #136

2006 says otherwise. joshcryer Feb 2016 #141

In 2006 you had Howard Dean Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #144

The 50 state strategy elected blue dogs. joshcryer Feb 2016 #151

Hey look! You're still hurling dumb insults about an election I can not swing. jeff47 Feb 2016 #215

I also pointed out that my state is going to go blue nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #68

Lol. cali Feb 2016 #17

let's hope it's Sanders because Hillary is ballot poison Vote2016 Feb 2016 #18

I don't stand together with people who condone wars in Iraq, Libya, and Syria. Maedhros Feb 2016 #19

Hear, hear! Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #25

Yeah, but you are ok with guns, guns, guns and votes that condemn thousands Persondem Feb 2016 #34

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #38

If you seriously think that Hillary opposes the TPP now Kall Feb 2016 #189

I also don't stand together Mike__M Feb 2016 #35

404 error message Petrushka Feb 2016 #145

It works if you take the period off. senz Feb 2016 #199

Link is dead [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2016 #158

Here, try it without the period at the end. senz Feb 2016 #200

Thx senz (n/t) Mike__M Feb 2016 #202

A vote for Hillary in the primaries John Poet Feb 2016 #21

Yep. 840high Feb 2016 #170

America already is a nightmare for far too many Impedimentus Feb 2016 #24

The difference between lethal injection and drawing and quartering sarge43 Feb 2016 #95

Within the very limited scope of their political consciousness, Maedhros Feb 2016 #163

My memory isn't the best, but has any other candidate temporary311 Feb 2016 #26

Excuse me? NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #32

its not going to work this time. bunnies Feb 2016 #27

Alrightee then! We could do that(stop shopping). jhart3333 Feb 2016 #79

+100 840high Feb 2016 #172

If abortion and gay marriage are important to you... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #28

At the moment, the party can take 'unity' and shove it. I don't vote for ratfuckers... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #29

agree completely Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #69

Ew. senz Feb 2016 #201

I guess one or two people finally noticed that the slime thrown at Sanders and his supporters Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #30

KNR Lucinda Feb 2016 #33

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #36

Except for many of us, that's not how it works. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #41

So your HillDawg Feb 2016 #42

Um...huh? Please read my post again. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #46

how many loyalty oaths does this make for today? nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #43

Keeping a repub out of the White House is fare more important that which Democrat wins the primary. anotherproletariat Feb 2016 #44

If you truly believe this, Beowulf Feb 2016 #65

+1 Paka Feb 2016 #97

Then dump Hillary. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #104

Good point. senz Feb 2016 #203

Agree with you rpannier Feb 2016 #45

Remember how we mock Republicans for voting against... Barack_America Feb 2016 #48

exactly right Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #72

And, lest we forget, the Democratic candidates who ostensibly fight for our "social issues" Maedhros Feb 2016 #171

i agree. nt DesertFlower Feb 2016 #51

ya don't say... dana_b Feb 2016 #52

I'm not saying I definitely won't vote Dem if it comes to that but I am saying Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #53

"She chose to have them lie and smear a good man." senz Feb 2016 #206

No it's not. 0 - 0 = 0 Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #54

My vote in Arkansas wouldn't have made any difference in any Presidential election Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #56

Yet they cling to the idea that 0 - 0 = +1 Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #62

saying "I told you so" is much more important to some DrDan Feb 2016 #55

I wish you people would take this shit away. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #57

Lie dave502d2 Feb 2016 #58

nope...I'm just tired Roy Ellefson Feb 2016 #60

I feel the way you do. I've 840high Feb 2016 #173

Who said: yallerdawg Feb 2016 #67

So after a week or two of solid alienation you guys finally remember there's a general to win. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #70

A Vote... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #76

This ^^^^^^^ n/t sarge43 Feb 2016 #82

her faction's said that everything's your fault if you don't vote for their drip candidates MisterP Feb 2016 #77

I'm for Bernie but will definitely vote for Hillary if she wins womanofthehills Feb 2016 #78

Oh yes, we certainly need a Wall Street-friendly Supreme Court. senz Feb 2016 #207

Fail PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #80

Lol...Bernie has supposedly not been loyal to the Democratic party, so why should we? hoosierlib Feb 2016 #81

Clinton's loss is 100% Clinton's fault Lordquinton Feb 2016 #87

K&R mcar Feb 2016 #89

Nominee needs to draw Independents and sane GOP. I truly don't see HRC pulling that off. Jackilope Feb 2016 #93

I will un-enroll from the party if Hillary is the nominee and she loses the GE. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #180

If you are a Democrat or Progressive We_Must_Organize Feb 2016 #96

K&R Gothmog Feb 2016 #99

Sanders beats Repugs and Clinton Doesn't LiberalElite Feb 2016 #100

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #101

It's little more than childish pouting. Having a tantrum to get attention and to be validated ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #108

Fear! Fear! Fear! earthside Feb 2016 #110

You don't think HillDawg Feb 2016 #112

Hillary won't for sure. 840high Feb 2016 #177

Thank you. We survived Bush - 840high Feb 2016 #176

I've been a Democrat my entire life CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #115

.... 840high Feb 2016 #178

Very well stated and I know others who feel the same way ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #195

Excellent post. earthside Feb 2016 #214

If Hillary is the nominee... Ino Feb 2016 #117

Meh. If HRC is the nominee she needs to earn my vote. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #119

what an inspiring slogan Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #131

I'll vote for Trump or not vote at all Yeager29 Feb 2016 #132

If you are seriously voting for Trump you are on the wrong site. Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #138

I'm mad Yeager29 Feb 2016 #139

A vote for Hillary in the primary Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #137

Sorry HillDawg, some people are just too far gone. Core Dems compromise to make progress.... Hekate Feb 2016 #140

"even lefter" ... Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #142

EveR Lefter -- with an R. Denotes a Process. Hekate Feb 2016 #147

I can't see what's not there. Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #216

yada yada yada Fawke Em Feb 2016 #146

I'm 72. For the first time in my voting life, we have a candidate with integrity. That's JDPriestly Feb 2016 #148

Is this the evil we know argument? n/t humbled_opinion Feb 2016 #154

I hope all you arguers feel really good about standing up for your values demigoddess Feb 2016 #157

Do you think there will never ever be a republican president again? RiverLover Feb 2016 #168

I feel good. 840high Feb 2016 #182

How many thousand threads like this have we seen so far? Anyone keeping track? merrily Feb 2016 #161

Probably about as many HillDawg Feb 2016 #169

Very doubtful. Nevada caucuses were only Saturday. Thread like this have been being posted for years merrily Feb 2016 #183

I will vote for Bernie Sanders... malokvale77 Feb 2016 #162

That's wonderful HillDawg Feb 2016 #166

Oh please. coyote Feb 2016 #167

Hillary can't win the general. Why start with a loser? Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #175

my husband and I will be voting for Bernie Sanders; end of story amborin Feb 2016 #179

No problemo. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #181

Fair enough. HillDawg Feb 2016 #184

Unite the party - vote for Bernie BostonBob Feb 2016 #186

Bernie polls better in the general election jfern Feb 2016 #190

Oh jeez, another loyalty oath OP. delrem Feb 2016 #192

Good talk HillDawg Feb 2016 #193

I want to see follow though and I don't believe I'll see it. delrem Feb 2016 #194

I'm not going HillDawg Feb 2016 #197

The swiftboating and ratfucking that I refer to is documented. delrem Feb 2016 #198

So if our choice in TX is Hill or Trump???? !!! 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #205

I will gladly tell people why they should not vote Repub, but for will not be singing the praises of GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #208

I'm voting democrat in the fall workinclasszero Feb 2016 #217

Great sentiment but better saved for when addressing Democrats. great white snark Feb 2016 #218