2016 Postmortem

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143. Actually the issues are not in the past, they are still occurring today, why do you think the all

Reply to NWCorona (Reply #132)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 07:06 PM

Feb 2016

the issues have been resolved? I just want to know what he did after the 60's in relationship to civil rights issues.

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Van Jones: Bernie Was For Civil Rights When Hillary Was For Goldwater [View all] NWCorona Feb 2016 OP

I really like Van Jones and I'm glad we're on the same side. Not surprising at all haikugal Feb 2016 #1

I like Van Jones too. grasswire Feb 2016 #63

He works for the people... haikugal Feb 2016 #64

he's wonderful. Imagine how the DNC would be with him running it. roguevalley Feb 2016 #129

What a nice thought. deathrind Feb 2016 #154

Goldwater was running on a segregationist platform of course. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #2

Yawn. zappaman Feb 2016 #3

I'm not saying it's new but it obviously isn't that boring NWCorona Feb 2016 #4

... zappaman Feb 2016 #5

Your debating skills are impeccable lol NWCorona Feb 2016 #9

Are you kidding? Wilms Feb 2016 #15

Now, let's give him credit.... daleanime Feb 2016 #54

Yes. We must be compassionate. Duval Feb 2016 #91

You must be Sheldon Cooper 😀 NWCorona Feb 2016 #92

It's not new and breaking here on DU, but I'll bet most Dem voters don't know panader0 Feb 2016 #17

Or care. n/t zappaman Feb 2016 #40

Well, why don't we a "let them squared", let them know.... daleanime Feb 2016 #56

Most people outside of DU don't know that gyroscope Feb 2016 #78

or care. zappaman Feb 2016 #85

Black voters will care gyroscope Feb 2016 #88

I'm getting tired of it, and I'm a Sanders supporter nxylas Feb 2016 #101

You may have changed gyroscope Feb 2016 #106

I think her positions now are more relevant nxylas Feb 2016 #121

Change is not acceptable if you , well, etc...etc randys1 Feb 2016 #153

Black voters don't know who the "real" HRC is ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #122

You just won a cookie, as that phrasing has now been said 1,000 times on DU randys1 Feb 2016 #156

oh right zappaman Feb 2016 #124

Who's Goldwater and why is he important now !?!??! tia... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #6

The same reason that claiming old photos of Bernie was someone else seemed to be Matariki Feb 2016 #20

That's true... that's true uponit7771 Feb 2016 #33

It's important because it is more evidence that Hillary Carolina Feb 2016 #94

Wasn't Warren a Republican at one time?!? tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #168

You miss the point Carolina Feb 2016 #170

You mean somebody was a Republican when they were a teenager NuclearDem Feb 2016 #7

she went to the Repub convention for Rockefeller when she was TWENTY-ONE. kath Feb 2016 #10

that is a flat out lie dsc Feb 2016 #22

Reading. Comprehension. Is. Your. Friend. kath Feb 2016 #26

They are math challenged, you see--they can't help it. And making stuff up is all they can do now. MADem Feb 2016 #37

"math challenged" zappaman Feb 2016 #42

In 1968 (not 1964) she was supporting Rockefeller... Herman4747 Feb 2016 #65

Well, you are going to have to provide at least a LITTLE proof of that, ya know. MADem Feb 2016 #68

See Matariki's post for your proof. Herman4747 Feb 2016 #71

I seem to recall she supported McCarthy that year, and left the GOP because they MADem Feb 2016 #75

You do understand that many young people take paid jobs as interns for Congresspeople.... George II Feb 2016 #128

In 1968, she was an intern at the House Republican Conference and ... Petrushka Feb 2016 #167

You are so right, Herman but Carolina Feb 2016 #100

See if reading this clears your confusion dragonfly301 Feb 2016 #47

TWENTY-ONE is quite OLD for developing one's political identity. Matariki Feb 2016 #23

The story isn't true, you know. But you believe it if it sweetens the taste MADem Feb 2016 #41

Here is a LINK for you Madem Matariki Feb 2016 #52

Mercy!! Hope this will clear it up once and for all. Duval Feb 2016 #95

LOL, I saw what you DID there--you 'edited out' the most important part! MADem Feb 2016 #179

You were denying that she went to the 1968 Republican convention Matariki Feb 2016 #180

You were focusing on the development of her MADem Feb 2016 #182

Some things are hard to let go NWCorona Feb 2016 #13

Got his number? I'll call him. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #80

Of course she was a Goldwater girl RobertEarl Feb 2016 #8

You know what I blame for Goldwater? NuclearDem Feb 2016 #12

It owes rent RobertEarl Feb 2016 #21

Hence your user name? panader0 Feb 2016 #25

That is stupider than heck frazzled Feb 2016 #11

That is bull. He spent two years as a civil rights activist in Chicago. cali Feb 2016 #19

And then he moved to Vermont. And no one can come up with anything tangible or memorable EffieBlack Feb 2016 #130

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #149

I'll try SheenaR Feb 2016 #162

+1 Lucinda Feb 2016 #70

+10 Duval Feb 2016 #103

I thank Van Jones for speaking the truth... AzDar Feb 2016 #14

Wow! He is someone that has not been too kind to Bernie. This is Yuuuge! jillan Feb 2016 #16

Agreed! NWCorona Feb 2016 #18

Au contraire, he has been an outspoken and passionate Tanuki Feb 2016 #89

Oh, yeah? Well Clinton's been a Democrat for 45 years- Sanders for 4-5 months. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #24

Not to mention Sanders never even bothered to vote until it was for himself. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #28

How old was he then--forty? I'd say he's a little late to the electoral party. MADem Feb 2016 #44

But he was never a Republican NWCorona Feb 2016 #29

lol, before she could vote. That's such a stupid argument. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #32

Not really NWCorona Feb 2016 #35

Yes. Really. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #36

Are you forgetting about the campaign in 68? NWCorona Feb 2016 #38

She actively supported McCarthy in 1968. She did attend the GOP Tanuki Feb 2016 #84

Remember when Obama was elected in 2008 dragonfly301 Feb 2016 #30

The OP is nonsense so a nonsense reply is warranted AND appropriate. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #34

Sanders had adopted policies Trajan Feb 2016 #60

kthxbai!! PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #69

Sadly, you are wasting your breath with Carolina Feb 2016 #114

I totally agree Trajan Feb 2016 #160

+1000 n/t livetohike Feb 2016 #76

Who gives a fuck? TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #93

Lol. Please hold while I note your concern.... PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #96

Typical Hillarian snobbery. n/t TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #116

Awww, you need a hug? PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #123

I would rather discuss the issues, but I'll take a hug. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #125

Oh yeah, Sanders has always been a progressive, Hillary? Still waiting. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #97

K. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #102

TRP isn't often wrong, but when he's wrong he's SO far off the map it's hilarious. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #134

You think he's wrong, and I think he's right. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #136

Fair enough. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #142

And I respect your choice as well. I think both are great. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #146

Kim Davis was a Dem until a few months ago. Did she deserve your vote? arcane1 Feb 2016 #105

Lol PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #111

I knew you wouldn't have an intelligent answer to counter that arcane1 Feb 2016 #112

I understand. I'm sure that's important to you. Wear it proudly, add it to your resume. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #120

And I liked Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #27

Wham and Duran Duran didn't promote segregation NWCorona Feb 2016 #31

What a profound statement. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #39

I see you didn't like that being thrown back atcha NWCorona Feb 2016 #43

My, you seem very familiar with what people like for someone who has been here for seven days. nt MADem Feb 2016 #49

What does me being here for only 7 days have anything to NWCorona Feb 2016 #51

Oh, nothing and everything, I suppose! LOL! nt MADem Feb 2016 #86

It's that kitchen sink they're accusing others of throwing. See--turns out that MADem Feb 2016 #46

You should e-mail Van Jones and tell him only Jonny Capehart is allowed to speak of a candidate's Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #82

I'd have to give a shit to do that. MADem Feb 2016 #87

Silly... not Carolina Feb 2016 #118

Did Clinton support Republican Goldwater before she supported Republican Rockefeller or after? Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #45

before. Goldwater - 1964. Rockefeller - 1968. n/t Herman4747 Feb 2016 #72

I love Van Jones but he sounds like a DUer on this. He should let this go Number23 Feb 2016 #48

Yep bravenak Feb 2016 #119

Big fan of Van and because of my lawyer friend in SF I have known and followed him longer randys1 Feb 2016 #159

FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME: HILLARY WAS A TEENAGER Beacool Feb 2016 #50

It's not BS it's Hillary's life story. NWCorona Feb 2016 #53

It's ridiculous and beyond low to try to bash someone for their political affiliations as a kid. Beacool Feb 2016 #57

That's an excuse, not a rebuttal. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #55

There's no need for a rebuttal. The whole premise is beyond ridiculous. Beacool Feb 2016 #59

And as an adult Hillary admires and is a close friend with war criminal Henry Kissinger. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #58

A former SOS who she consulted about China. Beacool Feb 2016 #61

And with whom she and bill spend winter holidays. Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #66

Hillary did much more than consult with Kissinger, it's personal. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #67

I'm sure they know but they also know what will get them pats on the back and recs. great white snark Feb 2016 #62

They repeat it because the truth is too hard to comprehend. Gee what was Bernie doing in his high livetohike Feb 2016 #77

At this point, it's all they've got. That and New Hampshire. Tanuki Feb 2016 #90

It's fun to watch the Jonathan Capehart 1960's Gossip Defense Club toss Van Jones under their Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #73

I'm a Sanders supporter and I think this is irrelevant. PeterGM Feb 2016 #74

Exactly, we should focus on what she believes now, not what she believed 50 years ago. n/t TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #108

I'm a Sanders supporter, and I disagree with you Trajan Feb 2016 #151

Ok, just a warning... PeterGM Feb 2016 #171

This neither helps nor hurts. Bernie STILL will not be the nominee. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #79

Hate to break it to you but I don't think Hillary will be the nominee NWCorona Feb 2016 #81

Okay. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #83

I think you may be right. AtheistCrusader Feb 2016 #98

Van Jones? A nutty truther who Obama kicked to the curb. Kang Colby Feb 2016 #99

Evidently enough people care for them to do a story on it NWCorona Feb 2016 #107

Posting RW sourses on DU is shameful riversedge Feb 2016 #104

You can kill the messenger if you want NWCorona Feb 2016 #109

this is great - thanks for posting! Merryland Feb 2016 #110

What does he mean, was? She's still pushing Goldwaterite ideas. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #113

Good post, thanks for the link, Van Jones said Bernie Sanders was working on Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #115

Well the civil rights movement ended in 68 NWCorona Feb 2016 #132

Actually the issues are not in the past, they are still occurring today, why do you think the all Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #143

So what? She was a kid he was a grown man bravenak Feb 2016 #117

Hillary didn't convert until 68 NWCorona Feb 2016 #126

How old was she? Voting age was 21 bravenak Feb 2016 #127

Bernie was putting in work long before he could vote NWCorona Feb 2016 #133

Like what? What did he do for civil rights in High School? bravenak Feb 2016 #135

Come on, there's a few years in between after HS and when you turn 21 NWCorona Feb 2016 #137

Yeah. College bravenak Feb 2016 #138

Again, lets circle back. NWCorona Feb 2016 #141

And he did nothing UNTIL college. bravenak Feb 2016 #144

As apposed to working for a segregationist that wanted to take away your rights. NWCorona Feb 2016 #145

So? She was a kid. bravenak Feb 2016 #147

Didn't you just fault Bernie for not doing anything until NWCorona Feb 2016 #148

No. I SAID he did what he did or not. bravenak Feb 2016 #150

"Until college BOTH were not doing anything much for civil rights" NWCorona Feb 2016 #152

And Meeting MLK.... bravenak Feb 2016 #155

And after meeting MLK Hillary still went on to become a goldwater girl. NWCorona Feb 2016 #157

While he was just on the track team bravenak Feb 2016 #158

But to say she was just a kid is wrong. NWCorona Feb 2016 #161

She gets a pass from me all day bravenak Feb 2016 #163

And you are entitled to feel that way. NWCorona Feb 2016 #164

I'd like to see him on the SCOTUS EOM The Green Manalishi Feb 2016 #131

The voting age was 21 back then so she couldn't even vote. Metric System Feb 2016 #139

But she never did anything for PoC afterwards, either. senz Feb 2016 #166

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #140

Bernie's activism for PoC started in high school. senz Feb 2016 #165

Eye-opening article. Thank you for the link. I'll post it on my Facebook page. Petrushka Feb 2016 #169

Van Jones probably remembers the bus Third Way threw him under - back in 2009? Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #172

What were you doing/thinking when you were 16? Did you change your mind about anything... Hekate Feb 2016 #173

I really don't understand the point you are making. NWCorona Feb 2016 #175

Bernie has fought for Civil Rights HIS ENTIRE LIFE. senz Feb 2016 #174

From what age? Birth? Elementary school? Jr Hi? High school? College? Hekate Feb 2016 #177

He started in high school. Then college, then the rest of his life. senz Feb 2016 #178

I am still pissed about how quickly (and I mean QUICKLY)... bvar22 Feb 2016 #176

Agreed! NWCorona Feb 2016 #183

Van Jones is correct he was getting arrested while she was dr60omg Feb 2016 #181