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jwirr

(39,215 posts)
56. My anger is not so much about her bigotry - it is about the
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:19 PM
Feb 2016

theory of John DiIulio regarding the idea of incarcerating people who can never be rehabilitated. This theory is not new - it was around in the late 1890s and 1920s and they called it eugenics.

Why am I upset? Because I experienced it also. Not from a racial stand point but from the point of a mental illness in the family. I can trace 5 generations of mental illness in my immediate family. A two great aunts who were put into institutions for life, a aunt who was also place in the institution but let out in the late 50s when nothing was left of her life. My mother who was lucky enough to be left home after shock treatment and my little brother who is home because we now understand what was going on and our family protects him. All those before my mother were sterilized so that there could be no children.

And I know that this was happening in black communities even more.

What I am angry about is that the Clintons could fall for this stupid discriminating theory in the 90s. Pure southern bull. We have known better since the late 70s and yet they used this theory to create a system that incarcerated so many people.

Sorry but I do not see that they were using their heads at all following this theory. And since I still have my brother and my daughter who would have been victims of this theory - I want nothing to do with them and their flawed theory.

If you think I do not have a right to be angry with her I am sorry but I have been fighting this shit all my life. Not going to stop now because it doesn't suit someone else.

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Welcome to DU! Arazi Feb 2016 #8
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Sighhhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #45
my first jury duty in a while. Glad I served. bettyellen Feb 2016 #47
Are you kidding? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #49
you agree with that post that AA voters are stupid and can be steered to any candidate? bettyellen Feb 2016 #50
I didn't read it that way at all... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #55
"black education is of such a poor level that you can steer this (voting) block into any direction" bettyellen Feb 2016 #59
Because farleftlib Feb 2016 #51
It included a personal attack on the OP, for one. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #53
are you serious? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #71
You know, I should have cut and pasted it while it was still able to be read... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #76
I wish I had seen the offending post in full, passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #78
Well, I DID read it, so I'm trying to go by my initial impression... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #79
Fair enough passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #84
Yep... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #87
Funny thing, isn't it? EffieBlack Feb 2016 #52
I would say Yes ... If it wasn't so damned sad. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #67
wow. And a lot of people agreed with that racist troll JI7 Feb 2016 #64
But that poster was a long time lurking Black person! ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #68
of course, because of all the discussions that have taken place JI7 Feb 2016 #85
Welcome to DU ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #32
My mom, god bless her memory, was Jewish... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #41
Godwin's Law. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #33
Welcome to DU. 840high Feb 2016 #34
Uh, the bigoted troll is gone. Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #60
one less buddy for him! bettyellen Feb 2016 #62
Someone alerted on ya. Not very surprised. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #37
Your post seems to assume that all of her critics are white. arcane1 Feb 2016 #2
No, her post clearly states that people who never cared about black issues suddenly lunamagica Feb 2016 #9
Gee I have only been covering BLM issues since it started nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #18
Then the OP is not about you, is it? lunamagica Feb 2016 #30
Oh it is nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #35
No it is not. It ia about people on DU who have never posted about black issues, and now, all of lunamagica Feb 2016 #39
Go ahead and test this talking point on twitter nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #43
LOL ... See I told you! eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Feb 2016 #63
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #38
I'm just mean that way... lunamagica Feb 2016 #42
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What guy would that be? Tell me about him. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #27
huh? How do I know what? What post are you answering? I haven't mentione Sanders AT ALL lunamagica Feb 2016 #29
Well, that last part is where you are wrong. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #74
truth is truth litlbilly Feb 2016 #3
You ain't kidding alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #4
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... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #11
Michelle Alexander TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #12
+1. eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #54
I was told he can get the nomination without the black vote rbrnmw Feb 2016 #66
Excellent post, Effie! leftofcool Feb 2016 #5
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Another great post Effie. Lucinda Feb 2016 #7
Truth. nt Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #13
Charles Blow has an interesting op-ed today that touches on this frazzled Feb 2016 #14
Thanks, good snippet. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #21
Mr. Blow has been so on point! Love that man! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #44
Stop attempting to speak for all minorities. TM99 Feb 2016 #15
I just have to say farleftlib Feb 2016 #24
Thank you! Beautifully said Arazi Feb 2016 #25
Correct nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #36
Well said n/t Hydra Feb 2016 #93
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Ok let's play a game of SPOT THE TALKING POINT nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #19
How is this different than the piling on of Bernie Sanders POC "problem"? farleftlib Feb 2016 #20
Pure truth. great white snark Feb 2016 #26
+1 ... Now trash OP without returning being ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #28
She is the worst person who ever lived !!! Check her scalp for 666!!!! dubyadiprecession Feb 2016 #31
Many of us POC have made this point over and over again. It's fallen on deaf ears. Wonder why... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #40
Noticed this too. You go, Effie! bettyellen Feb 2016 #48
My anger is not so much about her bigotry - it is about the jwirr Feb 2016 #56
You assume it's "sudden conversions" by cynical sanders supporters Armstead Feb 2016 #57
I think you'd have to be a regular in the AA forum to get the full picture. bettyellen Feb 2016 #65
This is what I said about this rbrnmw Feb 2016 #72
Great post. K & R nt Persondem Feb 2016 #58
I think a lot of it is schadenfreude whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #61
Exactly Right! farleftlib Feb 2016 #69
I don't understand why any democrat would support her californiabernin Feb 2016 #70
If I'm reading this correctly... retrowire Feb 2016 #73
Even if all the zentrum Feb 2016 #75
We all voted for President Obama, twice, because we're racists? Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #77
You interpreted the OP to, somehow, be calling ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #89
I strongly agree....and its sad.... markj757 Feb 2016 #80
I agree with you 100% EffieBlack Feb 2016 #82
Exactly. BainsBane Feb 2016 #81
K&R betsuni Feb 2016 #83
Da-a-amn! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #86
Good luck with that. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #88
Thank you for proving the point of this thread.... markj757 Feb 2016 #90
Proving who I will listen to? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #92
NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BERNIE !! Hiraeth Feb 2016 #91
Kick & very highly recommended! William769 Feb 2016 #94
Bernie is tone deaf on race...wasn't that the line that opened this can of worms? noiretextatique Feb 2016 #95
No, not at all EffieBlack Feb 2016 #96
Hmm will try putting this in the virtual trash again nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #97
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