2016 Postmortem

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64. Trust isn't everything

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:39 PM

Feb 2016

If she is running against Trump, a majority of people will (ought to) be scared of him. Besides, what does it mean to not trust Hillary. Does it mean people don't trust her to run the country reasonably well or that they just don't trust her to do exactly what she says. I mean, at least I trust her to not start a war with Mexico.

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Hillary Supporters need to be more realistic. I think she will lose the GE. Just look at the [View all] Cal33 Feb 2016 OP

They'd rather lose the GE EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #1

Exactly!!!! pdsimdars Feb 2016 #40

It's deeper than that brentspeak Feb 2016 #61

Yes. The DNC could stand some reformation, and they don't want to change their ways. Cal33 Feb 2016 #66

And ironically EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #89

Lol, that would be funny. The Repubs supporting Bernie and the Dems supporting Trump. Vattel Feb 2016 #100

What's a tangled web we weave EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #109

This world of ours is full of contradictions. I'm not easily shocked. Cal33 Feb 2016 #137

Yep! If Bernie and Trump win, then Bloomberg gets in the race! cascadiance Feb 2016 #102

When first we practise to deceive! EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #110

Isn't the same true for the Bernie supporters who have vowed to vote for Trump or stay home? Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #133

IMHO - A Vote For HRC In The Primary Is A Vote For Trump In The General Election cantbeserious Feb 2016 #2

It doesn't matter what we want. Superdelegates are ensuring her win. nt valerief Feb 2016 #3

Let the super delegates vote for her if Bernie is the people's choice PonyUp Feb 2016 #8

What general? The one with her as the Democratic candidate? valerief Feb 2016 #13

You can if you're there. n/t tazkcmo Feb 2016 #26

but then there are those transcripts. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #106

She sit on them for as long as she damn well pleases because no one will make her valerief Feb 2016 #108

There was a post here today, with a copy of one of her emails. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #128

everything in Bernieworld is rigged. redstateblues Feb 2016 #132

How? hack89 Feb 2016 #14

Superdelegates will be unnecessary. Codeine Feb 2016 #24

I'm not counting them PatrynXX Feb 2016 #35

To this, I might add that the Southern States are expected to vote for Hillary. Cal33 Feb 2016 #48

Not true.... Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #82

Yes, they CAN change their allegiance -- truedelphi Feb 2016 #105

'Realistic' is going by your opinion? randome Feb 2016 #4

Numerous posts over the months have shown that Bernie Sanders has always beaten Cal33 Feb 2016 #15

She has the numbers so I think it behooves us to recognize that and move her further to the left. randome Feb 2016 #25

she hasn't been moving to the left PatrynXX Feb 2016 #38

She's been mouthing many of Bernie's positions. senz Feb 2016 #46

So why give up? Find something we can all get behind. The voters obviously are on Clinton's side. randome Feb 2016 #49

Maybe you are, but I'm not so sure that she has the numbers yet. I'm willing to wait and see. Cal33 Feb 2016 #52

No Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #83

Move her further to the left Politicalboi Feb 2016 #103

Exactly the way I think too. pdsimdars Feb 2016 #45

I agree with randome. eom artyteacher Feb 2016 #27

I would hope that Hillary would win Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #116

I am a democrat Frances Feb 2016 #5

Yes. I, too, will vote for Hillary, if Bernie should lose in the primaries. Cal33 Feb 2016 #17

technically on the ideas page PatrynXX Feb 2016 #39

"negative posts" have nothing to do with it pdsimdars Feb 2016 #47

Well said! Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #84

As far as the war in Iraq, if Gore had been president they would have twisted truedelphi Feb 2016 #112

Trump has worse numbers. DCBob Feb 2016 #6

Trump might still lose the Republican primaries. Cal33 Feb 2016 #18

Don't forget, many powerful members of the RNC are against Trump. He might not Cal33 Feb 2016 #20

If the RNC pulls something to block Trump then I bet he will run third party. DCBob Feb 2016 #28

I bet this is giving the Republican Establishment a good deal of trouble. Cal33 Feb 2016 #54

No doubt. DCBob Feb 2016 #56

For all the bleating about Superdelegates... OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #65

I'm so relieved! She doesn't even need my vote then. JimDandy Feb 2016 #58

If you are a Democrat she needs your vote. DCBob Feb 2016 #62

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I think you have no idea what a Democrat is. DCBob Feb 2016 #88

Associate with HER? JimDandy Feb 2016 #90

I think you are completely mistaken about her. DCBob Feb 2016 #91

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You have no idea. DCBob Feb 2016 #95

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She will do fine with Independents. DCBob Feb 2016 #97

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Try again yourself. DCBob Feb 2016 #101

I think your bias has affected your judgment of her. JimDandy Feb 2016 #113

Your buddy just got canned. DCBob Feb 2016 #117

Not sure what this is in reference to. If you mean the "name removed" poster on this thread, JimDandy Feb 2016 #120

"Name removed".. above. DCBob Feb 2016 #121

Those type of posters are disruptors who are never on my side, nor on Bernie's side. n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #122

They certainly pretend to be... some are very good at it. DCBob Feb 2016 #123

We won't have to worry about them, if we all keep policing our own. n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #124

I know what I am doing with my vote. Nedsdag Feb 2016 #107

I'm expecting to use my vote on Sanders! All of his states are coming up soon JimDandy Feb 2016 #114

As long as she and the establishment get the nomination. Barack_America Feb 2016 #7

I also think that if Hillary gets the nomination, dems can kiss the presidency goodbye Mufaddal Feb 2016 #9

That why Mitch McConnell said Rep Senator were free to run attack ads against Trump rbrnmw Feb 2016 #70

Got to love the stain of two decades of Republican shit slinging, right? Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #10

Right. And the 90% Republican-owned news media can take much credit for keeping the Cal33 Feb 2016 #21

Republicans invested a huge effort of time and money to create a conservative media Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #29

Thanks to Clinton deregulation pdsimdars Feb 2016 #50

No, thanks to Reagan deregulation. Reagan made an issue of "Liberal media" Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #73

I bet Sanders will try to bring back the Fairness Doctrine. Somebody should. So much Cal33 Feb 2016 #75

Bush Jr was a genius at finding people to get him what he wanted. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #76

America loves women like Hillary Clinton�as long as they�re not asking for a promotion PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #11

Perhaps time played a role in the sense that it took some time for the public to get Cal33 Feb 2016 #30

Bernie supporters would have gone 100% for Elizabeth Warren. senz Feb 2016 #31

Yep...it's no Victim Card Pass. libdem4life Feb 2016 #51

Trouble is, with her 41% approval rating, there is a Herman4747 Feb 2016 #131

Reality frustrated_lefty Feb 2016 #12

I agree. Cal33 Feb 2016 #32

Nope, polls show Trump only pulling 16% of Latinos vs Hillary. Less than 40% is fatal. stevenleser Feb 2016 #16

That is Trump's Achilles heel Zambero Feb 2016 #86

Other than the New York Senate carpet bagging, with obvious help from somewhere, libdem4life Feb 2016 #19

Uh huh, fascinating. grossproffit Feb 2016 #22

Agree with this 100%. djean111 Feb 2016 #23

I agree with your views. Cal33 Feb 2016 #36

Bernie would never appoint a corporatist to the Supreme Court. senz Feb 2016 #37

You do have a point. But I have a feeling that what some of us believe that Obama made her libdem4life Feb 2016 #55

I see what you're saying senz Feb 2016 #57

My most fervent hope is that she embraces the role of abuela. Two granchildren, strollers in the libdem4life Feb 2016 #63

True. Her ego, power lust, and gargantuan sense of entitlement senz Feb 2016 #67

Probably so. The other thought I have is one word...Ego. libdem4life Feb 2016 #71

I think we pretty much see eye to eye on this. senz Feb 2016 #72

One reason could be that politics is the only profession she has ever had as an adult. Cal33 Feb 2016 #74

No. She is a lawyer & worked for years at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock. senz Feb 2016 #87

I'm a Sanders supporter and I don't trust her. Deadshot Feb 2016 #33

And you're assuming they trust Trump? brush Feb 2016 #34

Republicans hate Hill. FDR Dems and Indpendents don't like her. senz Feb 2016 #43

We'll have to agree to disagree brush Feb 2016 #60

Nope. I'm not assuming that they trust Trump. The RNC is against him. And among those who Cal33 Feb 2016 #44

Still not enough to beat the Dem candidate brush Feb 2016 #59

I sure hope not! Cal33 Feb 2016 #77

Something might nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #41

Thanks for the post. It's highly interesting one. It offers a lot to, as you said, "chew on." Cal33 Feb 2016 #69

HRC supporters ARE realistic. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #42

sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #79

Yes. The rest of the educated people in this world believe it, too. The only Cal33 Feb 2016 #115

not sure the majority of Hillary supporters understand what changes we must make SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #125

Probably not HassleCat Feb 2016 #53

Trust isn't everything 6chars Feb 2016 #64

You can't win the GE with no Black and Hispanic support. TRUMP is DONE! RBInMaine Feb 2016 #68

I'm casting my vote for Bernie in VA through early voting but will support Clinton onenote Feb 2016 #78

Trump is his own man and doesn't give a damn about what the Republican Estalishment people Cal33 Feb 2016 #93

As long as people like the Sanders supporters keep pushing that meme she will lose. GOP gets lots Jitter65 Feb 2016 #80

Both Trump and Hillary have high poll negatives Zambero Feb 2016 #85

Where Hillary takes us... kristopher Feb 2016 #92

Let's be realistic here Dem2 Feb 2016 #98

LOL, this is ridiculous. nt BreakfastClub Feb 2016 #104

i'd give her even odds or better in the general against Trump 0rganism Feb 2016 #111

BS supporters need to be more realistic - she is more popular than him DrDan Feb 2016 #118

I agree that trust is her biggest issue. But she has a way better chance in the GE than Bernie. anotherproletariat Feb 2016 #119

Hillary will win in November hands down.... beachbumbob Feb 2016 #126

sorry but Hilary can hold her own.... chillfactor Feb 2016 #127

She can't win the GE. But they don't care. Her policies are closer to Trumps than Bernie's. So as GoneFishin Feb 2016 #129

Bullshit- Hillary was the 10th most liberal senator in Congress redstateblues Feb 2016 #135

A million dead Iraqi civilians will be very re-assured to know that you consider her "liberal". What GoneFishin Feb 2016 #136

all this confidence about Bernie in the GE? redstateblues Feb 2016 #130

A sanders supporter telling us to be realistic ? drray23 Feb 2016 #134