2016 Postmortem

DCBob

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95. You have no idea.

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:35 PM

Feb 2016

I have lived in Illinois, Arkansas, Mississippi, Texas, Florida, Maryland and SE Asia. I actually never lived in DC proper.

BTW, Hillary Clinton is beloved by a vast majority of Democrats.

I think you are the one that needs to get out see what a real Democrat is.

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Hillary Supporters need to be more realistic. I think she will lose the GE. Just look at the [View all] Cal33 Feb 2016 OP

They'd rather lose the GE EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #1

Exactly!!!! pdsimdars Feb 2016 #40

It's deeper than that brentspeak Feb 2016 #61

Yes. The DNC could stand some reformation, and they don't want to change their ways. Cal33 Feb 2016 #66

And ironically EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #89

Lol, that would be funny. The Repubs supporting Bernie and the Dems supporting Trump. Vattel Feb 2016 #100

What's a tangled web we weave EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #109

This world of ours is full of contradictions. I'm not easily shocked. Cal33 Feb 2016 #137

Yep! If Bernie and Trump win, then Bloomberg gets in the race! cascadiance Feb 2016 #102

When first we practise to deceive! EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #110

Isn't the same true for the Bernie supporters who have vowed to vote for Trump or stay home? Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #133

IMHO - A Vote For HRC In The Primary Is A Vote For Trump In The General Election cantbeserious Feb 2016 #2

It doesn't matter what we want. Superdelegates are ensuring her win. nt valerief Feb 2016 #3

Let the super delegates vote for her if Bernie is the people's choice PonyUp Feb 2016 #8

What general? The one with her as the Democratic candidate? valerief Feb 2016 #13

You can if you're there. n/t tazkcmo Feb 2016 #26

but then there are those transcripts. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #106

She sit on them for as long as she damn well pleases because no one will make her valerief Feb 2016 #108

There was a post here today, with a copy of one of her emails. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #128

everything in Bernieworld is rigged. redstateblues Feb 2016 #132

How? hack89 Feb 2016 #14

Superdelegates will be unnecessary. Codeine Feb 2016 #24

I'm not counting them PatrynXX Feb 2016 #35

To this, I might add that the Southern States are expected to vote for Hillary. Cal33 Feb 2016 #48

Not true.... Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #82

Yes, they CAN change their allegiance -- truedelphi Feb 2016 #105

'Realistic' is going by your opinion? randome Feb 2016 #4

Numerous posts over the months have shown that Bernie Sanders has always beaten Cal33 Feb 2016 #15

She has the numbers so I think it behooves us to recognize that and move her further to the left. randome Feb 2016 #25

she hasn't been moving to the left PatrynXX Feb 2016 #38

She's been mouthing many of Bernie's positions. senz Feb 2016 #46

So why give up? Find something we can all get behind. The voters obviously are on Clinton's side. randome Feb 2016 #49

Maybe you are, but I'm not so sure that she has the numbers yet. I'm willing to wait and see. Cal33 Feb 2016 #52

No Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #83

Move her further to the left Politicalboi Feb 2016 #103

Exactly the way I think too. pdsimdars Feb 2016 #45

I agree with randome. eom artyteacher Feb 2016 #27

I would hope that Hillary would win Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #116

I am a democrat Frances Feb 2016 #5

Yes. I, too, will vote for Hillary, if Bernie should lose in the primaries. Cal33 Feb 2016 #17

technically on the ideas page PatrynXX Feb 2016 #39

"negative posts" have nothing to do with it pdsimdars Feb 2016 #47

Well said! Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #84

As far as the war in Iraq, if Gore had been president they would have twisted truedelphi Feb 2016 #112

Trump has worse numbers. DCBob Feb 2016 #6

Trump might still lose the Republican primaries. Cal33 Feb 2016 #18

Don't forget, many powerful members of the RNC are against Trump. He might not Cal33 Feb 2016 #20

If the RNC pulls something to block Trump then I bet he will run third party. DCBob Feb 2016 #28

I bet this is giving the Republican Establishment a good deal of trouble. Cal33 Feb 2016 #54

No doubt. DCBob Feb 2016 #56

For all the bleating about Superdelegates... OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #65

I'm so relieved! She doesn't even need my vote then. JimDandy Feb 2016 #58

If you are a Democrat she needs your vote. DCBob Feb 2016 #62

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I think you have no idea what a Democrat is. DCBob Feb 2016 #88

Associate with HER? JimDandy Feb 2016 #90

I think you are completely mistaken about her. DCBob Feb 2016 #91

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #94

You have no idea. DCBob Feb 2016 #95

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She will do fine with Independents. DCBob Feb 2016 #97

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Try again yourself. DCBob Feb 2016 #101

I think your bias has affected your judgment of her. JimDandy Feb 2016 #113

Your buddy just got canned. DCBob Feb 2016 #117

Not sure what this is in reference to. If you mean the "name removed" poster on this thread, JimDandy Feb 2016 #120

"Name removed".. above. DCBob Feb 2016 #121

Those type of posters are disruptors who are never on my side, nor on Bernie's side. n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #122

They certainly pretend to be... some are very good at it. DCBob Feb 2016 #123

We won't have to worry about them, if we all keep policing our own. n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #124

I know what I am doing with my vote. Nedsdag Feb 2016 #107

I'm expecting to use my vote on Sanders! All of his states are coming up soon JimDandy Feb 2016 #114

As long as she and the establishment get the nomination. Barack_America Feb 2016 #7

I also think that if Hillary gets the nomination, dems can kiss the presidency goodbye Mufaddal Feb 2016 #9

That why Mitch McConnell said Rep Senator were free to run attack ads against Trump rbrnmw Feb 2016 #70

Got to love the stain of two decades of Republican shit slinging, right? Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #10

Right. And the 90% Republican-owned news media can take much credit for keeping the Cal33 Feb 2016 #21

Republicans invested a huge effort of time and money to create a conservative media Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #29

Thanks to Clinton deregulation pdsimdars Feb 2016 #50

No, thanks to Reagan deregulation. Reagan made an issue of "Liberal media" Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #73

I bet Sanders will try to bring back the Fairness Doctrine. Somebody should. So much Cal33 Feb 2016 #75

Bush Jr was a genius at finding people to get him what he wanted. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #76

America loves women like Hillary Clinton�as long as they�re not asking for a promotion PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #11

Perhaps time played a role in the sense that it took some time for the public to get Cal33 Feb 2016 #30

Bernie supporters would have gone 100% for Elizabeth Warren. senz Feb 2016 #31

Yep...it's no Victim Card Pass. libdem4life Feb 2016 #51

Trouble is, with her 41% approval rating, there is a Herman4747 Feb 2016 #131

Reality frustrated_lefty Feb 2016 #12

I agree. Cal33 Feb 2016 #32

Nope, polls show Trump only pulling 16% of Latinos vs Hillary. Less than 40% is fatal. stevenleser Feb 2016 #16

That is Trump's Achilles heel Zambero Feb 2016 #86

Other than the New York Senate carpet bagging, with obvious help from somewhere, libdem4life Feb 2016 #19

Uh huh, fascinating. grossproffit Feb 2016 #22

Agree with this 100%. djean111 Feb 2016 #23

I agree with your views. Cal33 Feb 2016 #36

Bernie would never appoint a corporatist to the Supreme Court. senz Feb 2016 #37

You do have a point. But I have a feeling that what some of us believe that Obama made her libdem4life Feb 2016 #55

I see what you're saying senz Feb 2016 #57

My most fervent hope is that she embraces the role of abuela. Two granchildren, strollers in the libdem4life Feb 2016 #63

True. Her ego, power lust, and gargantuan sense of entitlement senz Feb 2016 #67

Probably so. The other thought I have is one word...Ego. libdem4life Feb 2016 #71

I think we pretty much see eye to eye on this. senz Feb 2016 #72

One reason could be that politics is the only profession she has ever had as an adult. Cal33 Feb 2016 #74

No. She is a lawyer & worked for years at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock. senz Feb 2016 #87

I'm a Sanders supporter and I don't trust her. Deadshot Feb 2016 #33

And you're assuming they trust Trump? brush Feb 2016 #34

Republicans hate Hill. FDR Dems and Indpendents don't like her. senz Feb 2016 #43

We'll have to agree to disagree brush Feb 2016 #60

Nope. I'm not assuming that they trust Trump. The RNC is against him. And among those who Cal33 Feb 2016 #44

Still not enough to beat the Dem candidate brush Feb 2016 #59

I sure hope not! Cal33 Feb 2016 #77

Something might nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #41

Thanks for the post. It's highly interesting one. It offers a lot to, as you said, "chew on." Cal33 Feb 2016 #69

HRC supporters ARE realistic. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #42

sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #79

Yes. The rest of the educated people in this world believe it, too. The only Cal33 Feb 2016 #115

not sure the majority of Hillary supporters understand what changes we must make SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #125

Probably not HassleCat Feb 2016 #53

Trust isn't everything 6chars Feb 2016 #64

You can't win the GE with no Black and Hispanic support. TRUMP is DONE! RBInMaine Feb 2016 #68

I'm casting my vote for Bernie in VA through early voting but will support Clinton onenote Feb 2016 #78

Trump is his own man and doesn't give a damn about what the Republican Estalishment people Cal33 Feb 2016 #93

As long as people like the Sanders supporters keep pushing that meme she will lose. GOP gets lots Jitter65 Feb 2016 #80

Both Trump and Hillary have high poll negatives Zambero Feb 2016 #85

Where Hillary takes us... kristopher Feb 2016 #92

Let's be realistic here Dem2 Feb 2016 #98

LOL, this is ridiculous. nt BreakfastClub Feb 2016 #104

i'd give her even odds or better in the general against Trump 0rganism Feb 2016 #111

BS supporters need to be more realistic - she is more popular than him DrDan Feb 2016 #118

I agree that trust is her biggest issue. But she has a way better chance in the GE than Bernie. anotherproletariat Feb 2016 #119

Hillary will win in November hands down.... beachbumbob Feb 2016 #126

sorry but Hilary can hold her own.... chillfactor Feb 2016 #127

She can't win the GE. But they don't care. Her policies are closer to Trumps than Bernie's. So as GoneFishin Feb 2016 #129

Bullshit- Hillary was the 10th most liberal senator in Congress redstateblues Feb 2016 #135

A million dead Iraqi civilians will be very re-assured to know that you consider her "liberal". What GoneFishin Feb 2016 #136

all this confidence about Bernie in the GE? redstateblues Feb 2016 #130

A sanders supporter telling us to be realistic ? drray23 Feb 2016 #134