2016 Postmortem

Donald Ian Rankin

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84. No, it is that you're naive about political realities.

Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:37 PM

Mar 2016

Sanders' election strategy relied on a massive wave of left-wing support arrising out of nowhere and sweeping him to power.

If that support were there, it would have had a significantly stronger effect in the primaries - where the kind of people Sanders appeals to most are more heavily represented - than in the general election.

So we now *know* that the support for the revolution that Sanders promised, and relied on, does not exist, and that if the Democrats were to nominate a self-proclaimed Socialist then they would probably lose to Trump, and almost certainly lose to any other Republican.

The choice is not between president Clinton and president Sanders; it is between president Clinton and president Trump.

And I know how I'd vote in that contest.

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This. [View all] FourScore Mar 2016 OP

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #1

Spot on!! Love reddit,mostly. wendylaroux Mar 2016 #2

Yeah, I remember feeling like that about George McGovern. Hoyt Mar 2016 #3

Is what we're supposed to take away from that comment... gcomeau Mar 2016 #8

In Colorado, standing in line to participate in the primaries. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #16

that's wonderful! amborin Mar 2016 #63

I'm 65, always supported Bernie. Never watch TV news. I trust Bernie's agenda. bjobotts Mar 2016 #70

Well said! CanSocDem Mar 2016 #78

Thing is, Bernie believes it can be done and that a lot of people want to help bigbrother05 Mar 2016 #83

So what's the excuse for siding with the wealthy 1% and turning backs on those rhett o rick Mar 2016 #71

Well, Sanders is a 3.5%er. I don't think things will get worse under Clinton. Hoyt Mar 2016 #75

There is a big difference. The Clintons obviously run with the wealthy and seem rhett o rick Mar 2016 #79

Beautiful! Punkingal Mar 2016 #4

Word! MelissaB Mar 2016 #5

I like. OZi Mar 2016 #6

raise your hand dana_b Mar 2016 #7

About to turn 57 elljay Mar 2016 #19

WE will all be dead when the effects of this election... Rockyj Mar 2016 #64

My daughter elljay Mar 2016 #66

here, here! dana_b Mar 2016 #68

You might want to re-think that. "Among people over 85 (the fastest-growing segment of the American jtuck004 Mar 2016 #89

me too dana_b Mar 2016 #67

Raised hand, an old hippie... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #9

No truer words spoken this political season so far ... Jopin Klobe Mar 2016 #10

it was said by Robert Reich green917 Mar 2016 #35

KnR SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #11

I love Reddit too xloadiex Mar 2016 #12

Sometimes I regret being involved in politics at 22 VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #32

That's a powerful age to be alive and involved. Good for you! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #46

Doesn't feel that way too often, given my job, but hey. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #54

You already know what you'd eventually like to be doing. That's huge! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #56

Wonderful post. It's all real. Bernie has vision, progressive policies appalachiablue Mar 2016 #13

BIG KnR - for speaking the truth to power, for Bernin' our way to Philadelphia. nt 99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #14

I love Millennials Oilwellian Mar 2016 #15

Beautiful! H2O Man Mar 2016 #17

I am 70 years old FuzzyRabbit Mar 2016 #18

I'm not a young person, but I totally agree with this message. lark Mar 2016 #20

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #21

K & R! TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #22

voting for Bernie here in PA in the primary. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #23

Bravo...great for convincing, but. DeGreg Mar 2016 #24

K&R CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #25

The young woman's name is Dana Kiel. She posted in the YouTube comments section to ID herself. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #26

K&R! vanlassie Mar 2016 #27

Great post, FourScore Blus4u Mar 2016 #28

Best thing I've read all day! floppyboo Mar 2016 #29

"We know over 200 leading economists have endorsed his policies" MaggieD Mar 2016 #30

make of it what you will demosocialist Mar 2016 #37

Again, one proposal - not all his policies MaggieD Mar 2016 #41

well she never said ALL his policies demosocialist Mar 2016 #45

"We know over 200 leading economists have endorsed his policies" MaggieD Mar 2016 #49

What makes you doubt Bernie's claim? bvar22 Mar 2016 #87

Isn't that wildly hypocritical ? Jarqui Mar 2016 #77

Thanks, good information! senz Mar 2016 #44

I think he's telling a whopper MaggieD Mar 2016 #53

she was referencing this article green917 Mar 2016 #39

It's also not endorsing his "policies" MaggieD Mar 2016 #40

Start paying attention, it's not just "stuff" kids post on reddit. Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #48

Who are these 130 economists he refers to? MaggieD Mar 2016 #50

You didn't open the links and read them did you? Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #59

K&R Thank for posting Mbrow Mar 2016 #31

K&R! Duval Mar 2016 #33

The media is trying to run this election MorningFrog Mar 2016 #34

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #36

That is why corps want control over the internet. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #38

+1 Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #61

K&&&&R!!!! FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #42

Other countries can do it so can we Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #43

Thanks for posting this fine overview, FourScore! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #47

When I look at Bernie Sanders, I don't see a 73 year old politician, I see a 22 year old activist. I hate liars Mar 2016 #51

I see a dishonest politician MaggieD Mar 2016 #52

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..... Hotler Mar 2016 #55

It's a transcript of his words MaggieD Mar 2016 #57

I think you've broken the record for biggest non-sequitur... I hate liars Mar 2016 #58

I think it's exactly on point MaggieD Mar 2016 #73

The Clintons are obsessed with wealth and power. It's obvious to anyone not enamored rhett o rick Mar 2016 #72

Oh that's so funny MaggieD Mar 2016 #74

Nice try to deflect but the Clinton's have amassed a huge ~$150,000,000 PERSONAL FORTUNE rhett o rick Mar 2016 #80

If Hillary had made this claim, you KNOW Bernie fans would be demanding to see the list. :-D NurseJackie Mar 2016 #81

Oh, so you don't like dishonest politicians, huh? Herman4747 Mar 2016 #82

Here is the list. I found it with 10 seconds of Googling yodermon Mar 2016 #85

but but but.... robbob Mar 2016 #88

I saw that while it was happening monicaangela Mar 2016 #60

Awesome!! You were there? FourScore Mar 2016 #65

Huge K&R amborin Mar 2016 #62

K/R 840high Mar 2016 #69

Big K&R! nt raouldukelives Mar 2016 #76

No, it is that you're naive about political realities. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #84

Third Way is *Dead Party Walking*. It will be gone and buried forever soon. Zorra Mar 2016 #86