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Chan790

(20,176 posts)
19. I'm just going to say what I said in 2012 and 2008 and 2004.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:57 AM
Mar 2016
"There's never going to be a good Presidential electoral cycle to withhold our votes from the increasingly-right-wing Democratic candidates to make it clear that we know and no longer accept that they have, factually, divorced and lost the Democratic party base. They do however know this, don't care, and believe they have us captive to their selling-out of us for personal gain.

The American center-left and left is a hostage in its own party and will remain so until they realize, much like the end of Fight Club, that they're the ones holding the gun in their own mouth.


So, it is what it is, we are where we are...and there's a real chance this is the election when the American left decides to pull the trigger and spatter the electability of fake Democrats all over the floor, then watch out the window as the false American political landscape explodes to the atonal opening notes, lone guitar riff, and chirpy vocals of Black Francis on Where is my mind? by The Pixies.



You see doom. I see a beautiful metaphor for our liberation from the likes of Hillary and the saving of the Democratic party by those brave enough to act sanely in the face of mounting insanity and our own oppresson. They're the heroes of the Democratic party, not anarchists or libertarians...they're the only sane ones left in the tent because when they were children, their mothers read them The Lorax by Dr. Seuss and they remember:



Caring makes acting necessary. The consequences of caring lies with our enemies, including the malign right inside the Democratic party. If Hillary loses and we end up with President Trump...it will be the faults of her supporters for being allies and backers of a political hostage-taker. All the left would be doing is acting in self-defense by blowing-up her Presidential aspirations.
Bless your cotton socks child. n/t pkdu Mar 2016 #1
Nah, they're solidly Right Wing Lorien Mar 2016 #2
Yep. Red Knight Mar 2016 #4
Depends on the issues. Ninety percent left, ten percent right DRI Mar 2016 #12
Absolutely true. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #8
I would say Hill supporters are left-ish on a handful of social issues - on the rest it isn't clear. reformist2 Mar 2016 #14
What has Hillary ever supported that could be considered leftish? marions ghost Mar 2016 #32
I'm about 4 boxes to the left of Ralph Nader Dem2 Mar 2016 #78
Good questions indeed. Paka Mar 2016 #3
They're with her... wherever she decides to be that day! reformist2 Mar 2016 #5
! ejbr Mar 2016 #10
Sad to say ... that is closest. earthside Mar 2016 #61
how can you tell anyone here is 'genuinely' anything? bigtree Mar 2016 #6
The corporatists ejbr Mar 2016 #11
That would be anti-establishment Democratic Party, which is more republican than Democratic RiverLover Mar 2016 #16
+1 Kittycat Mar 2016 #34
I'm more of an observer, but this: "Bernie supporters are genuinely on the Left, unquestionably ecstatic Mar 2016 #7
My guess is that Clinton will appoint justices that are liberal on social issues Vattel Mar 2016 #9
Excellent and succinct post. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #17
I'm just going to say what I said in 2012 and 2008 and 2004. Chan790 Mar 2016 #19
^^^ THIS! RiverLover Mar 2016 #27
Bravo!! Best post here and dana_b Mar 2016 #52
Right on! n/t Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #80
+!! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #24
And anyone that holds the treat of the Supreme Court over others heads to garner support A Simple Game Mar 2016 #26
Thank you very much. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #28
But what has Clinton ever done marions ghost Mar 2016 #36
+1 Nicely put Hekate Mar 2016 #93
Where do I sign up for your purity test? mark67 Mar 2016 #13
Sorry but that horse left the barn in the last few years marions ghost Mar 2016 #37
I'm tired of NOT making the distinction pengu Mar 2016 #63
I am a member of the democratic party. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #15
But are you a part of the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party? Herman4747 Mar 2016 #20
Howard Dean was, right up until DU tossed him under the bus and ran over him a few times. nt Hekate Mar 2016 #95
Hear hear! n/t SylviaD Mar 2016 #21
Efforts to place a self avowed Socialist smack dab in the center of the Democratic Party is farcical Trust Buster Mar 2016 #18
If Bernie is a "radical" leftist to anyone in this party... Red Knight Mar 2016 #22
Sanders is a fringe candidate, always will be. SylviaD Mar 2016 #23
We Need Another FDR Revolution The Far Left Mar 2016 #31
If you want to see one those mentioned take the oath of office INdemo Mar 2016 #33
"He's a radical Leftist." Do you think so? Gee, I hope so! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #79
What a condescending and patronizing BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #25
We have two candidates marions ghost Mar 2016 #39
FFS, it is a fair question, drop the fake outrage. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #43
None of them really want to admit they are right wingers. n/t Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #62
Bernie Supporters - Honest Question - Are you actually a Democrat? oberliner Mar 2016 #29
Was FDR a Real Democrat? nt The Far Left Mar 2016 #38
Yes, he never ran as an independent oberliner Mar 2016 #42
Bernie is not a corporate surrogate. The Far Left Mar 2016 #56
The original Democratic party? oberliner Mar 2016 #60
The Democratic party has gone so far to the right marions ghost Mar 2016 #40
Bernie Sanders was not a Democrat three decades ago oberliner Mar 2016 #41
I'm beyond labels at this point marions ghost Mar 2016 #47
Bernie Sanders: "I’m not a liberal. Never have been" oberliner Mar 2016 #48
"Liberal" comes weighted with a lot of connotations. Svafa Mar 2016 #88
Yes, a real one. Not a corporate war loving one. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #44
What percentage of Congressional Democrats are real ones? oberliner Mar 2016 #45
The number appears vanishingly small pengu Mar 2016 #64
I'm your huckleberry casperthegm Mar 2016 #67
Understood oberliner Mar 2016 #72
More navel-gazing. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #30
"this result has caused the republican party to go even more to-the-right" Martin Eden Mar 2016 #35
When did this shift begin? oberliner Mar 2016 #46
It began in earnest with the "Reagan Democrats" Martin Eden Mar 2016 #65
So the Democratic Party has been right wing since after McGovern? oberliner Mar 2016 #73
"right wing" Martin Eden Mar 2016 #75
Right of center oberliner Mar 2016 #81
I don't think Obama is to the right of Bill Clinton, tho he's far from the progressive we hoped for Martin Eden Mar 2016 #82
So you think we have a more left-wing president than the 1990s but a more right-wing party? oberliner Mar 2016 #87
I wouldn't call Obama Left Wing. Martin Eden Mar 2016 #96
I worked on obama campaigns starting with his senate run.... beachbum bob Mar 2016 #49
What 2 presidents wanted to cut Social Security? RiverLover Mar 2016 #51
Are you kidding? Demsrule86 Mar 2016 #50
Agree with everything you just said. Thanks. yardwork Mar 2016 #69
Idealism and pragmatism are not mutually exclusive DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #53
I'm not into labels Loki Mar 2016 #54
I stand with President Obama on most issues, Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #55
I was wondering when I would encounter the first purity post today. It took 4 minutes. LonePirate Mar 2016 #57
Why is this important? Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #58
Pfffffffft... Bobbie Jo Mar 2016 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #70
And who are you, exactly? Bobbie Jo Mar 2016 #74
Nope, they're all Progressives. Dumb war hawkish, Wall Street/banksters friendly, bad trade deal... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #66
No, I'm a liberal who believes in capitalism MaggieD Mar 2016 #68
The thing is that America is so far to the right forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #83
I think they view themselves as Hillary supporters boythayer Mar 2016 #71
This is absolute nonsense Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #90
What do you consider "Center Right?" Adrahil Mar 2016 #76
I have extremely progressive social views hack89 Mar 2016 #77
What a presumptive question Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #84
A lot of Bernie supporters are very pro-charter school. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #85
Center??? QC Mar 2016 #86
Her supporters are "left-leaning Democrats"? Nedsdag Mar 2016 #89
Welcome back and bless your little pea brain. Liberal. Very very liberal. nt Hekate Mar 2016 #91
You are what you vote for. Clinton is right wing ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #92
Is this one of those threads used to call out people so you can put them on ignore? n/t taught_me_patience Mar 2016 #94
Kicked for relevance. quantumjunkie Mar 2016 #97
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