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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Sanders still dismissing the black vote in the South which voted overwhelmingly for Hillary [View all]
Bernie Sanders on Sunday admitted he had been creamed in many southern states by his rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Hillary Clinton, but said Democrats were not going to win those states in the general election.
Sanders, speaking on CBS, was asked about the delegate math that gives Clinton a nigh-insurmountable lead in delegates and superdelegates combined.
Sanders said his campaign had a good path forward even though the deep south was not a strong area for us, and pointed out that in Illinois and Missouri the campaigns nearly split the delegates available despite Clinton winning the states.
She creamed us in Mississippi and Louisiana and South Carolina, he said, before adding that Democrats are not going to win those states in the general election.
As we head to the west coast, which is probably the most progressive part of America, I think as you go forward youre going to see us doing better and better.
read: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/20/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-south-west-coast-us-election-2016?CMP=share_btn_tw
I gotta ask. Why would Californians be more progressive than black voters in the South? That's what those voters hear when Sanders turns his back on them and looks to the West for a mini-momentum miracle. There is no 'confederacy' vote in our Democratic primaries in the South, as Sanders surrogates termed the votes there last week.
The reason Sanders has done better outside of the South is the predominance of non-black voters in the Northern states he did well in, with a sprinkle of actual republican votes coming out of open-primaries (unlike the closed Southern primaries).
That said, he's going to find a fair share of minorities and others opposed to his campaign in California who will keep him from establishing little more than parity there with Hillary. It's a mystery why he believes this is his campaign's saving grace. At this point, the North/South and the West/South slams have been disproved in elections in Ohio, Mass., Illinois, Nevada, Missouri. What's the point in poking Southern voters in the eye every time he's looking to recover his losses there?
Why is Sanders already conceding those states to the GOP and ignoring the impact of this important group of voters? Hell, polls this week show that Trump's candidacy even makes Democrats competitive in solidly red states like Utah.
Black voters in the South and elsewhere who are a legacy of the registration efforts of Barack Obama's two-term presidency have given Hillary a resounding lead in delegates. Sanders' strategy is to downplay and dismiss those votes. Is there anything more shortsighted or counterproductive to the efforts of our Democratic coalition?
Propane Jane @docrocktex26
Saying Hillary only won the Confederacy isnt just idiotic its also bad for the Dem Party http://www.salon.com/2016/03/19/saying_hillary_only_won_the_confederacy_isnt_just_idiotic_its_also_bad_for_the_democratic_party/
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Sanders still dismissing the black vote in the South which voted overwhelmingly for Hillary [View all]
bigtree
Mar 2016
OP
Repeating Sanders own words with context?! Yeap, gonna keep at it too k? thx
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#37
he's comparing them to what he KNOWS is the overwhelming black vote in the South
bigtree
Mar 2016
#6
Whatever you need to say to make yourself feel... whatever it is you're trying to feel.
arcane1
Mar 2016
#7
It's not anti-southern black for Bernie to try to do better among POC on the West Coast
Ken Burch
Mar 2016
#102
Not in the context of democrats but go ahead keep telling yourselves what you want to hear no matter
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#38
If he can win with "very liberal voters" even in SC, that should tell you something.
Vattel
Mar 2016
#34
That there aren't enough "very liberal" voters for him to win the primary? tia
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#43
He did not beat her with "liberal" voters overall... nor with democrats overall. Nice try though
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#42
Sanders Camp response: ....HEY !!! ....HEY!!! This is a no fact zone dammit!!
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#40
Well sir, the majority of the Democratic Party agrees with "the wife of the man.....yadda yadda"...
George II
Mar 2016
#17
In what manner is she "defending" payday lenders? I think you missed something in that article.
George II
Mar 2016
#108
How does she accumulate 10 hides without getting a kick from the pizza boot?
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2016
#30
LOL! The deep south is used all of the time, and never for the way you're implying.
Dawgs
Mar 2016
#21
LOL yourself! "Deep South" is obviously a regional denotation with implications
R B Garr
Mar 2016
#66
You know that's not true. Look at their politicians and the DINOS they elect and then tell me
Autumn
Mar 2016
#47
Facts DO matter as you stated to me earlier. You don't get to makeup your own facts.
Autumn
Mar 2016
#59
Kansas and OK, redest states ever since civil war and not full of the "others"? tia
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#61
I adressed what Bernie said that article the OP posted, I don't see anything about Kansas and OK
Autumn
Mar 2016
#67
CA is whiter than OK. OK has the largest percentage of Native Americans of any of the 50 continental
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#87
What did he say that was inaccurate? We're not going to win those states? Look at the last 50 years
EndElectoral
Mar 2016
#16
Because Sanders is mostly resonating with white male voters? You know, the coalition that HRC
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#45
the answer is apparent to so many people outside of this forum that it's almost embarrassing
bigtree
Mar 2016
#31
I truly do not believe that Sanders or his supporters are oblivious to the importance
panader0
Mar 2016
#35
Strawman, no one said they were racist just dismissive as he has been since the beginning of his...
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#46
Some of them have been overtly racist and with willing supporters to rec their overtly racist ...
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#51
You're losing your mind. The stress of supporting Hillary is getting to you!
Elmer S. E. Dump
Mar 2016
#90
Who the in the HELL is running this guys campaign?! He sounds like someone with a REDDIT account !!!
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#36
I find nothing wrong with Bernie deciding to write off black Southern voters.
Renaissance Man
Mar 2016
#48
LOL ... a "progressive" campaign that's mostly homogeneous racially in a non homogeneous party
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#53
"writing" off the marginalized isn't progressive in any way, Sanders isn't a progressive he's angry
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#56
This is what Hillary did that bugs me. Her people infiltrated Sander's campaign and hurt it
Zira
Mar 2016
#75
2016, a real democrat won those states in the primary which is his context so... yeah, Sanders is
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#55
There's a difference between primary and general election, its sad that some Sanders supporters
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#60
He lost the PRIMARY in three states, a word that's being left out of your retort but whatever...
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#64
Like Kansas and OK were there are less black folk but their two of the redest stats in the union!?
uponit7771
Mar 2016
#65
Saying that he'll do better out of the south should get the same outrage as "super predators" got
whatchamacallit
Mar 2016
#58