2016 Postmortem

CalvinballPro

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76. Exactly. Whites got a New Deal, blacks got a Raw Deal. Systemic racism restricts benefits to whites.

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:26 AM

Mar 2016

Sanders had to be forced by BLM to even acknowledge that systemic racism is still a problem. Why should black voters believe his version of the New Deal would be any different when he lays out no path to make it that way?

While it is not confusing to see why white Sanders supporters don't get this, it is very, very disappointing.

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Since when is prosperity for all a "white" issue? [View all] MidwestTech Mar 2016 OP

Because ideology often matters less than outreach. forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #1

Yep bravenak Mar 2016 #4

Which candidate actually participated in the civil rights movement Baobab Mar 2016 #46

Shhhhhh you'll ruin the outrage MidwestTech Mar 2016 #51

Hillary and Hillary?! Yeah, a civil rights movement isn't a couple of arrest and a march uponit7771 Mar 2016 #91

"there are so many asshurt Bernie supporters who scream at and brigade people and negates that." kiva Mar 2016 #65

*sigh* NuclearDem Mar 2016 #2

Since he ignored the South and basically told us that his plan was good enough for us bravenak Mar 2016 #3

ok so what is your issue de jour? MidwestTech Mar 2016 #6

His bad campaigning bravenak Mar 2016 #7

Oh damn he really DID say that forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #10

He sure did say it.... bravenak Mar 2016 #14

Insensitivity? Who cares about that? TowneshipRebellion Mar 2016 #26

I don't give the first damn about his ideas bravenak Mar 2016 #27

So feeling is more important than thinking? TowneshipRebellion Mar 2016 #29

He can think all he wants. Thoughts dont change policy bravenak Mar 2016 #31

Like the Iraq war and these free trade agreements that have gutted TowneshipRebellion Mar 2016 #34

And bernie was good at voting in favor of mass incarceration and deregulation bravenak Mar 2016 #36

Bernie went along to get along TowneshipRebellion Mar 2016 #42

Oh? He PANDERED? bravenak Mar 2016 #43

No, what Clinton does is pander. Notice how she won't release TowneshipRebellion Mar 2016 #50

You'll get lots of nice pandering from Clinton, I'm sure. Marr Mar 2016 #84

I do not love her either bravenak Mar 2016 #94

+1, they're not that far away from Hillary's in the first place!!! uponit7771 Mar 2016 #92

I wish people would realize that and stop acting like she's gonna blow up America bravenak Mar 2016 #93

none of these reasons you list is accurate amborin Mar 2016 #97

Does context matter here? TCJ70 Mar 2016 #18

He coulda have bravenak Mar 2016 #21

So the answer is to let black people say whatever they want about him... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #23

Listen and figure out why they say what they say bravenak Mar 2016 #25

But that was a ridiculous statement from that lady who asked that question NWCorona Mar 2016 #30

That is what he gets for trying to aviod the issue for so long bravenak Mar 2016 #33

I did watch the video and I agree he isn't perfect NWCorona Mar 2016 #49

He is wrong. We are not equal. Yet. bravenak Mar 2016 #53

I said he sees us as equals NWCorona Mar 2016 #54

Nothing he can do now bravenak Mar 2016 #60

Not necessarily NWCorona Mar 2016 #62

He's a congressman. He has, is and will continue to fight MidwestTech Mar 2016 #63

I know all about his record bravenak Mar 2016 #64

you certainly don't act like it n/m MidwestTech Mar 2016 #68

Not impressed. By most politicians.nt bravenak Mar 2016 #69

But Hillary is the one you'd fall on your sword for? astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #78

That makes no sense ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #80

Look at this article ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #79

I agree racism needs to be addressed All in it together Mar 2016 #100

People who are not rich need to take responsiblity too bravenak Mar 2016 #102

The Republican Party isn't the only party that uses race to influence elections. mmonk Mar 2016 #5

because black Americans are still waiting for their 40 acres and a mule geek tragedy Mar 2016 #8

The best anyone will ever get is an equal chance MidwestTech Mar 2016 #9

How we gonna get equal chances when nobody will listen to a damn word we say? bravenak Mar 2016 #16

I seem to recall some very rude BLMers being given the podium MidwestTech Mar 2016 #20

Their allies allowed us TO GET TO THIS POING BY NOT NOTICING OUR PLIGHT bravenak Mar 2016 #22

I'm glad you are speaking up and Bernie is listening, I'm trying to. All in it together Mar 2016 #70

Because you say 'when we are trying to get african americans a better deal' bravenak Mar 2016 #71

What do you say? All in it together Mar 2016 #96

I don't want anything formally called reparations forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #11

I would be in favor of that. A fair New Deal, nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #17

That is what Bernie is about. Single payer healthcare would help everyone. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #77

People are responding to historic trends gollygee Mar 2016 #12

"real life" = meat world! n/t ebayfool Mar 2016 #24

What strikes me astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #13

Since when is it a "Bernie" issue? Hillary has a very strong economic message. DanTex Mar 2016 #15

+1000 ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #81

Then go have some more coffee. wildeyed Mar 2016 #19

If there is nothing about leveling the playing field, from experience we know it is not prosperity seabeyond Mar 2016 #28

define leveling the playing field MidwestTech Mar 2016 #32

"pandering" Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #35

There are so many it's hard to figure out where to start bravenak Mar 2016 #38

Discrimination is already illegal, little ladies! Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #40

We should smile more, it makes us look pretty and approachable bravenak Mar 2016 #44

And speak softly! Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #47

Trying to set people of color up against each other. gollygee Mar 2016 #41

It's a nasty and disturbing tactic bravenak Mar 2016 #45

"Pandering" is a reddit buzzword forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #55

Yep. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #59

Nonsense. It means insincerity-- empty words from politicians who Marr Mar 2016 #95

Since Bernie is the one talking about that issue. nt Autumn Mar 2016 #37

VERY EASY ! You can't be angry about economic insecurity with the already economically insecure uponit7771 Mar 2016 #39

But a stable economy helps with all those issues... MidwestTech Mar 2016 #48

How does a stable economy help with police brutality!?!!? Trayvons parents were the 20% uponit7771 Mar 2016 #57

People are more willing to hold the police accountable when they are economically secure MidwestTech Mar 2016 #61

I don't think there's any reason to believe that gollygee Mar 2016 #66

You forgot to add racist as fuck-area MidwestTech Mar 2016 #72

Change happens when people make demands gollygee Mar 2016 #73

Ironic since he's BEEN doing that most of his career MidwestTech Mar 2016 #75

+1, He's not, he specifically said to effect that racial issues or non economic issues aren't that uponit7771 Mar 2016 #88

what is the bases of this thinking? There are plenty of blacks who live in economically secure place uponit7771 Mar 2016 #87

Historically it has had a way of not being "for all" Recursion Mar 2016 #52

Historically . . . MidwestTech Mar 2016 #58

I would respectfully suggest you consider ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #83

Exactly. Whites got a New Deal, blacks got a Raw Deal. Systemic racism restricts benefits to whites. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #76

IDK I just have trouble believing people have a hard time seeing it Recursion Mar 2016 #82

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2016 #89

Since the sleazy Clintons took back the Democratic Party. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #56

Since the Hillary campaign purposely drove a racial wedge between Democrats Maedhros Mar 2016 #67

The lack of coverage didn't help either MidwestTech Mar 2016 #74

Or maybe you are upset the rest of us of all hues don't vote like college students. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #85

Yeah, she had Cornell West stump for her after he called Obama "n-word-izzed" last year.... o wait uponit7771 Mar 2016 #90

WalMart was a leader in this, even corrupting Andy Young MisterP Mar 2016 #86

It's not just about stands on issues, it's about the execution of the plans Dem2 Mar 2016 #98

Here's an article on the Congressional Black Caucus you might find interesting BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #99

It was hard for me to understand too for a while. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #101