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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: This may be the election that redefines the parties. The Democrats may evolve into the party of the [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)23. Point by point.
* the Democrat is the candidate using Citizens United to raise Super PAC funds from millionaires and billionaires while the Republican campaigns against a corrupt pay-to-play campaign finance system
We shall see if Trump does not leap at the chance to use the wealth of the republican party and its sponsors in the GE. I know which side my bet is on.
* the Democrat is the candidate encouraging international trade agreements which have the effect of promoting the loss of American union jobs to foreign countries while the Republican campaigns on bringing those union jobs back to America
Trump wants to go back to a unilateral trade policy reminiscent of Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover, not the multilateral trade policy adopted by FDR. Trump does not want to "bring union jobs back". He wants to make right-to-work nationwide and see unions disappear.
* the Democrat is the candidate who saber rattles about American boots on the ground in foreign conflicts while the Republican campaigns on the theme that the countries in the region should take the lead role and we should limit our in-forum involvement to bombing rather than American boots on the ground
I don't see Trump as anything but a typical republican who bleats about how Democrats have weakened the military and he will make it strong again. If you understand from him that he will be timid about using our military, you have heard a different message than I.
* the Democrat is the candidate is defending the tax policy status quo while proposing minuscule tweaks at the edges of that policy while the Republican is arguing that the billionaires and the large corporations must pay a greater share of taxes
Every analysis I have read shows that his tax cuts will be the usual "trickle-down", cut taxes for the rich (including himself) that we always get from republicans. And this is before he starts cozying up to the republican establishment after he wraps up the nomination and does not need the base anymore.
* the Democrat is the candidate saying "let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater" about Wall Street reforms while the Republican campaigns against corruption in the financial sector
I find it hard to believe that anyone here really expects Donald to "crack down on corruption in the financial sector".
I agree that he will conduct a 'populist' campaign that will be unlike anything we have seen from a republican before. But let's not confuse his RW populism based on fear, hate and us-vs-them rhetoric with real populism, like Bernie's, that does none of those things.
Will Trump be a effective and dangerous campaigner though he would be a horrible president? You better believe he will be. We had better prepare for it.
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This may be the election that redefines the parties. The Democrats may evolve into the party of the [View all]
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
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Down is up and up is down in Bernie supporter's world. The contortions must hurt Huh?
upaloopa
Mar 2016
#1
Hillary practiced reckless regime change that benefited ISIS; she promised to oppose FTAs but then
amborin
Mar 2016
#44
Bernie has repeatedly described Citizens United as the worst decision every made by the
ladjf
Mar 2016
#54
My point was exactly the opposite. There is a BIG difference between Clinton and Trump. Clinton is
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#16
When it comes to foreign policy there is no difference between Hillary and Bush
CoffeeCat
Mar 2016
#52
If you trust Donal Trump to "rail against corruption" then I feel sorry for you. Same with taxes. nt
CalvinballPro
Mar 2016
#5
I don't trust Trump on ANYTHING. I am not a Bernie-or-Bust voter; I'm a Democrat. I am talking about
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#12
People will crawl over broken glass to vote FOR and AGAINST Trump. Hillary is NOT Bush or FDR
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#24
I agree. I also think there is a hopelessness that will vote for change even if the change is the
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#49
You missed the point. It's that Trump can and will run to the left of Hillary ...
Scuba
Mar 2016
#26
Yes. Not only will he push some issues Republicans usually won't, he'll be far more populist than
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#32
It's ironic that you're calling for substance literally right after name calling
mythology
Mar 2016
#68
Looks like you've given up on poll trutherism and found a new kind of nonsense to peddle.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#10
Is "poll trutherism" what says Sanders is poised to win Alaska, Washington, Hawaii, Wyoming, etc.?
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#40
Nah, the 'new' Republican Party is a proto Nazi party. And you don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
emulatorloo
Mar 2016
#14
You're talking about who Trump is. I'm talking about what Trump will falsely promise in his campaign
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#42
I would say that Trump has different skills than Reagan. Trump didn't beat the other 16 Republican
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#55
'My cock is bigger than yours and your wife is ugly' won't cut it with General Election voters
emulatorloo
Mar 2016
#65
True, but I'm more concerned with Hillary giving qualified weasel-word answers to voters who ask for
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#69
Not sure I agree 100%, but you have made some brilliant observations, IMO.
closeupready
Mar 2016
#18
I am talking about Trump's foreseeable campaign themes. I'm not suggesting Trump would govern better
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#27
I'm not even sure Trump is going to campaign as a RW populist. I think he's going to campaign as a
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#43
All RW populists have some (specific) far RW issues and some "vaguely LW issues".
pampango
Mar 2016
#61
Much of Trump's vagueness is more intentional than a result of poor preparation (as many assume).
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#63
I quite agree that his vagueness is intentional particularly, IMHO, with LW issues.
pampango
Mar 2016
#64
I did not mean to post that people would not believe his campaign rhetoric. He'll be very dangerous
pampango
Mar 2016
#57
I'm not "pumping up the GOP" - I don't even think Trump is the GOP (and that was part of my point).
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#29
There is nothing good about Trump. He is beyond rehabilitation, but he will make false campaign
Attorney in Texas
Mar 2016
#53
Then put the intials "FBI" next to Hillary's name on that horizontal line.
Major Hogwash
Mar 2016
#59
I don't see how Hillary is a viable candidate unless she is cleared very soon by the FBI.
Vinca
Mar 2016
#66
Evolution has no direction. Up/down, Forward/Backwards, Left/Right, Short/Tall.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2016
#70
Sadly, I think Trump is more reasonable than his rhetoric while HRC will take us all
leveymg
Mar 2016
#78