2016 Postmortem

k8conant

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142. Are you saying the whole northeast is rah rah Wall Street?

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Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:32 PM

Mar 2016

I think it is not.

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Where the DEMOCRATIC primaries and delegates stand today [View all] George II Mar 2016 OP

Thanks. I was wondering about the claim WhiteTara Mar 2016 #1

K&R livetohike Mar 2016 #2

K&R. Thanks for the clarification lunamagica Mar 2016 #3

George, please add the popular vote! DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #4

Done - Clinton + 2,697,546 George II Mar 2016 #6

Wow...? Thank you. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #7

Which means crap when caucuses without ballot states aren't counted. Live Bait Mar 2016 #8

If you believe uncounted caucus voters can account for a near 3,000,000 vote deficit DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #12

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All arguments of who is going to win these states aside Bubzer Mar 2016 #125

Well, let's put that into perspective. Pledged delegate-wise the caucus states that Sanders won.... George II Mar 2016 #22

K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #5

Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #9

HRC Needs to Get Around 64% of Remaining Pledged Delegates... cureautismnow Mar 2016 #10

I don't know where your 64% number comes from, but it's incorrect. If you're saying... George II Mar 2016 #15

Basic Math. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #19

All convention delegates vote twice, then, MineralMan Mar 2016 #26

True, but the pledged delegates received their power to vote again cureautismnow Mar 2016 #36

Well, in that case and using your logic.... George II Mar 2016 #43

I'm glad you agree that she won't get to the magic number without Supers. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #44

What totally inept logic rock Mar 2016 #62

I get it. You don't like the will of the people. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #66

Well ain't you just full of "shoulds" rock Mar 2016 #68

Seriously? Do you think voters would vote to continue Super Delegates, cureautismnow Mar 2016 #71

Well sir or madam rock Mar 2016 #74

You didn't answer the question. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #76

+1000 Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #180

Ohh you are so right Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #179

Your point is well made... Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #178

Oh, really? Then by your "basic math" how many does Bernie need? Since he's pnwmom Mar 2016 #174

77%. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #183

I love a blogger that Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #177

Like Obama in 2008? joshcryer Mar 2016 #23

Yes, exactly. The Supers put him over the top. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #29

Wasn't a problem then, won't be now. joshcryer Mar 2016 #32

It WAS a problem for her in '08 before she finally conceded. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #39

Revisionism, she rallied behind and supported Obama. joshcryer Mar 2016 #93

She conceded on June 7, 2008. Look what she said on June 3, 2008. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #102

She lost by 62 pledged delegates. joshcryer Mar 2016 #107

And that should have been the end of it. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #116

You sound like Sanders haters calling for him to concede. joshcryer Mar 2016 #120

The one with the least amount of PLEDGED Delegates, cureautismnow Mar 2016 #126

The supers cannot abstain because there won't be a majority. joshcryer Mar 2016 #132

For this election, I agree with your 2nd statement. cureautismnow Mar 2016 #150

I am sure in those 4 days Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #181

I love math Gothmog Mar 2016 #11

My right brained head is exploding! kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2016 #24

Thank you George! sheshe2 Mar 2016 #13

Thanks still_one Mar 2016 #14

Next 30 days,,, Cryptoad Mar 2016 #16

good. still_one Mar 2016 #35

KNR Thank you! Lucinda Mar 2016 #17

Bern Math 2 + 2 = 22 Cryptoad Mar 2016 #18

You don't have a clue about math either pdsimdars Mar 2016 #30

Those are actual numbers as of this morning. You can choose to not believe them, but that won't.... George II Mar 2016 #41

K&R mcar Mar 2016 #20

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #25

It's also a symbol used by many others, including MineralMan Mar 2016 #28

Used for centuries by Irish people. bettyellen Mar 2016 #33

Now hidden, and rightfully so. MineralMan Mar 2016 #42

That's interesting; you are incorrect but it is right to hide the facts kristopher Mar 2016 #48

Which candidate I support has zero to do with MineralMan Mar 2016 #129

You are the incorrect one. The Celtic symbol is ancient and predates pnwmom Mar 2016 #135

Just as a point of fact, the swastika was also ancient and predated its use in Nazism. Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #171

The Celtic cross is not the swastika. nt pnwmom Mar 2016 #172

Its not a picture of a puppy dog either. Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #173

According to Rachel Maddow it is. (Even part of StormFront's logo) kristopher Mar 2016 #45

Celtic crosses are all over Ireland mcar Mar 2016 #50

Most Irish/ Irish Americans have no idea. It is an ancient and meaningful symbol- 14 and 88 bettyellen Mar 2016 #51

And the swastika is from Buddhist tradition, so what? kristopher Mar 2016 #53

Not so much the Celtic cross- it's primary meaning remains what it was for centuries. That was a bettyellen Mar 2016 #55

Thank you bettyellen! mcar Mar 2016 #58

I am sorry you were trolled for that symbol- DUers should not find excuses to support accusations of bettyellen Mar 2016 #59

You have a bizarre definition of trolling... nt kristopher Mar 2016 #67

I don't think anyone believes that poster to be a nazi sympathizer, so it is trolling... bettyellen Mar 2016 #69

I don't think so either, including the hidden post kristopher Mar 2016 #75

baloney- they made it partisan, and manufactured a Nazi smear. Shameless partisan trolling. bettyellen Mar 2016 #78

Well at least your last line applies to someone here kristopher Mar 2016 #80

You are accusing Skinner of promoting Nazis here via the avatars he provided. bettyellen Mar 2016 #83

You have no sense of shame at all, do you. kristopher Mar 2016 #84

How many times will you post that MineralMan Mar 2016 #130

Then because I'm inclined towards Buddhism I can use the swastika? kristopher Mar 2016 #63

Then you better not ever use heart symbols, because then you might be saying pnwmom Mar 2016 #139

Thank you! sheshe2 Mar 2016 #146

Should we abandon all symbols because they may be co-opted by hate? mcar Mar 2016 #154

You're welcome, mcar. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #164

We are no longer allowed to embrace our heritage anymore. sheshe2 Mar 2016 #136

Exactly she! mcar Mar 2016 #140

My mom. sheshe2 Mar 2016 #156

Love you too she mcar Mar 2016 #161

Pedophiles supposedly identify each other with heart symbols. pnwmom Mar 2016 #137

That's the second time that poster mcar Mar 2016 #49

Not at all strange since Rachel Maddow just did a show pointing it out. kristopher Mar 2016 #54

You think millions of Irish people are supporting Nazis- or should be accused of it? Nope. bettyellen Mar 2016 #56

It doesn't matter what I think - I've thought for decades that the Buddhist symbol being co-opted... kristopher Mar 2016 #65

Do you really think that Skinner would allow mcar Mar 2016 #57

The discussion is about the symbol... kristopher Mar 2016 #64

Nope it was about a poster implying (with the old "isn't it interesting") that Clinton supporters bettyellen Mar 2016 #70

The fact is the symbol IS used by neoNazis just like the swastika is used by neoNazis. kristopher Mar 2016 #77

But 99% of the time, it means Irish roots. And you and that poster know that. bettyellen Mar 2016 #79

So Rachel is slimy and low? kristopher Mar 2016 #81

We are talking about sliming a DUer w/ Nazi allegations for using an avatar Skinner provided. bettyellen Mar 2016 #82

Now it's more about bettyellen knowingly defending the use of known neoNazi iconography. kristopher Mar 2016 #86

Skinner provided the avatar- you must have brought this to his attention already, no? bettyellen Mar 2016 #87

Is that how you evaluate personal responsibility? kristopher Mar 2016 #90

You are the one accusing people of nazi sympathies here- if you think the avatar is as horrid as bettyellen Mar 2016 #92

Now you've crossed into complete irrationality and resorted again to false claims kristopher Mar 2016 #95

you are accusing many DUers and the Irish of "defending Nazi symbolism" when you know better bettyellen Mar 2016 #99

You seem confused kristopher Mar 2016 #101

A variation treestar Mar 2016 #128

This isn't a "personal attack", from the hidden post: George II Mar 2016 #88

There seems no end to it, does there? mcar Mar 2016 #91

It is completely shameless and repulsive to try and link DUers to Nazism for an Irish avatar. bettyellen Mar 2016 #97

Anti Defamation League: Hate on Display� HATE SYMBOLS DATABASE kristopher Mar 2016 #98

"it is a very common symbol and primarily used by non-extremists." but you can use it as a cudgel bettyellen Mar 2016 #104

It is what it is. I didn't use it, I don't use it. Anyone who does use it should be aware kristopher Mar 2016 #106

You are supporting and promoting slimy accusations of Nazi support because of an Irish avatar. bettyellen Mar 2016 #110

This fully explains the situation. kristopher Mar 2016 #112

" care must be taken always to judge it in context" Unless it is DUers- who are obvs supporting bettyellen Mar 2016 #115

Funny how they ignore that part mcar Mar 2016 #109

Having it as an online avatar in an anonymous forum is an open invitation to ... kristopher Mar 2016 #114

Which is exactly why YOU should bring this up to Skinner, if you believe what you posted here. bettyellen Mar 2016 #117

It really isn't, no mcar Mar 2016 #123

Whay are you repetitively pursuing this idiotic line? Nt Sheepshank Mar 2016 #144

Thanks for your concern. OilemFirchen Mar 2016 #191

I didn't think I could be a bigger fan but somehow you just made me one Number23 Mar 2016 #192

:blush: OilemFirchen Mar 2016 #193

Some of the stuff here lately is absolutely astonishing. Some of these folks get angry when the sun Number23 Mar 2016 #113

Well said! mcar Mar 2016 #124

The three cultures that come to mind when one sees this symbol are the Scottish, Irish, and Welsh still_one Mar 2016 #151

Here's one a Glendalough in County Wicklow, Ireland. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2016 #159

Gorgeous! mcar Mar 2016 #160

I think it's still the equivalent of an Irish heritage site. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2016 #162

What a relief! mcar Mar 2016 #163

There's a line in a book about Ireland travel that I read years ago. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2016 #165

LOL mcar Mar 2016 #167

Same here and I've been there three times. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2016 #170

That is spectacularly beautiful. Wow. Number23 Mar 2016 #175

Isn't it? greatauntoftriplets Mar 2016 #184

Math is a process, but it does depend on your assumptions and how you proceed pdsimdars Mar 2016 #27

How are these cold, hard numbers "spun"? They are HONEST reality. George II Mar 2016 #31

See post #72 RichVRichV Mar 2016 #133

The schedule has been basically the same as in previous presidential primary campaigns.... George II Mar 2016 #143

Your numbers are accurate but so are mine. They come from the same raw data. RichVRichV Mar 2016 #153

Sanders' best runs have been in small caucus states and small states with... George II Mar 2016 #155

Is it about winning states or about winning delegates? Make up your mind. RichVRichV Mar 2016 #157

Yes, it's about winning delegates, and as of today Clinton has about 220 more than Sanders.... George II Mar 2016 #166

Of course they count. RichVRichV Mar 2016 #169

The Celtic Cross is also one of the stock DU avatars one can use in one's profile. Check it out! George II Mar 2016 #40

The Celtic Cross is part of StormFront's logo. kristopher Mar 2016 #47

I think you should take that up with the owners of this site, who have provided that symbol... George II Mar 2016 #103

Is that your view of individual responsibility? kristopher Mar 2016 #111

the article you posted said " care must be taken always to judge it in context." and look for other bettyellen Mar 2016 #118

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #119

The big lie here is that any DUer here is promoting Nazism. And that is a lie you have defended bettyellen Mar 2016 #121

That is an overtly false statement. We're done. kristopher Mar 2016 #122

k&r rbrnmw Mar 2016 #34

last hurrah enid602 Mar 2016 #37

Are you saying the whole northeast is rah rah Wall Street? k8conant Mar 2016 #142

major industry enid602 Mar 2016 #189

You mean most of them work for Wall Street... k8conant Mar 2016 #190

DU rec...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #38

Numbers don't lie. baldguy Mar 2016 #46

Well, 1266-1038=225? If the OP says so... Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #127

Straight up facts, no opinion metroins Mar 2016 #52

Lies, damned lies, and statistics RichVRichV Mar 2016 #131

We thank you rock Mar 2016 #60

OP, UPDATE YOUR Numbers.... quantass Mar 2016 #61

Statistical Fun! RichVRichV Mar 2016 #72

Thank you... k8conant Mar 2016 #145

Thanks for the concise. Sheepshank Mar 2016 #73

I don't understand why Clinton automatically gets the Supers. Jennylynn Mar 2016 #85

Nobody said that, but 470 of the superdelegates have declared their support of Hillary Clinton. George II Mar 2016 #89

History goes against that premise. kristopher Mar 2016 #94

I think the people in Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, and Massachusetts would differ with that conclusion. George II Mar 2016 #100

Oh I see Jennylynn Mar 2016 #105

Wonderful jobs putting this together... blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #96

The Green Papers has yesterday's results: George II Mar 2016 #147

THWACK!!!!! And even with his victories yesterday, still down well over 250 delegates Number23 Mar 2016 #108

Mahalo George! Cha Mar 2016 #134

Bad day for you guys out there yesterday, but...... George II Mar 2016 #148

.. Cha Mar 2016 #149

thanks Sancho Mar 2016 #138

Thanks, George ll. oasis Mar 2016 #141

thanks for the update. DesertFlower Mar 2016 #152

superdelegates as of today - zero; they don't vote until the convention, but - hey - what's a little Vote2016 Mar 2016 #158

Pledged delegates as of today - zero; they don't vote until the convention. George II Mar 2016 #168

Oh SNAP! Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #182

This is totally doable Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #176

k&r DesertRat Mar 2016 #185

This thread devolved. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #186

Sure has. But none of that changed the current tally of delegates and votes. George II Mar 2016 #187

Check out my sig... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #188