2016 Postmortem

yardwork

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44. Right wing Republican controlled AZ isn't going to redo this primary.

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:17 PM

Mar 2016

We have a much bigger problem, and that's that many Democrats are going to be disenfranchised in the general election.

It's terrible that there was disenfranchisement in the primary, but impossible to know whose votes didn't get counted and which candidates were unfairly helped or hurt.

Much better to invest time and effort in forcing AZ and the other Republican-controlled states to do this right in the fall. And that's not going to be easy at all, because their whole goal is to suppress the Democratic vote. It's how the Republicans plan to win.

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Since an overwhelming majority of DU believes there was voter suppression in AZ.... [View all] blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 OP

Poll from previous post... blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #1

OF COURSE. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #2

Apparently there is some problem with just extending the vote to those suppressed Kalidurga Mar 2016 #3

yes they should be made to re-run the whole primary in AZ Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #4

With lots more polling places Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #10

yes Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #11

And it would be a warning to potential voter-suppressors in those states that haven't voted yet. Cal33 Mar 2016 #45

No. I don't think any irregularities that might have occurred favored any candidate. Hoyt Mar 2016 #5

It came out today that the vote by mail ballots haven't all been counted. It's just a shit storm. jillan Mar 2016 #6

Arizona, specifically Helen Purcell needs to be told to do her job. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #7

She needs to resign. Her and Michelle Reagan, SoS. They are a disgrace to democracy. jillan Mar 2016 #8

They need to remind her that she has screwed up other elections. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #16

Reducing to 60, out of 200 normal caucus sites didn't bother you? Zira Mar 2016 #37

Well most folks nowadays vote early, absentee, by mail, or even on-line in some cases. Hoyt Mar 2016 #47

This is the day of the caucuses. No more caucuses? Zira Mar 2016 #48

Was Arizona a caucus? I don't think so. Hoyt Mar 2016 #49

No, that would disenfranchise everyone who did vote. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #9

They could do a mail-in like Oregon. JudyM Mar 2016 #12

That takes many months if not years to set up let alone execute. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #13

Yeah, probably... Can you think of an alternative? JudyM Mar 2016 #38

That would first require a legislative change. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #17

Since there seems to be bipartisan support around the issue that could theoretically happen quickly. JudyM Mar 2016 #39

Theoretically, I don't think so. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #50

Yes, but if not, at least count the provisionals and all absentees lostnfound Mar 2016 #14

They should only count ballots that are identified as Democratic Party voters. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #20

That DMV stuff is presumably what happened in Florida lostnfound Mar 2016 #34

It likely isn't a voter registration problem but a drivers license registration problem. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #51

It would be better to make AZ add polling places for the GE. yardwork Mar 2016 #15

There is suppose to be 724 voting locations in the general. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #21

better for who? superkona Mar 2016 #43

Right wing Republican controlled AZ isn't going to redo this primary. yardwork Mar 2016 #44

I think having another election is unrealistic. Vinca Mar 2016 #18

well if Purcell can do it, how hard can it be?! MisterP Mar 2016 #31

It's not hard. The only hope is having someone with integrity in charge. Vinca Mar 2016 #35

I passed on it. Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #19

If this was a regular primary election that only determined the winner LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #23

I understand your point. Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #32

It is not the Party that is at fault. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #53

The other option is to have the delegates not seated. Barack_America Mar 2016 #22

Michigan was not seated because they held it when they weren't suppose to. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #24

I'm aware why MI was not seated. Barack_America Mar 2016 #26

I would disagree. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #54

So disenfranchise everyone? JoePhilly Mar 2016 #25

I guess so. Delegates have gone unseated for less. Barack_America Mar 2016 #27

Like what lessor event? JoePhilly Mar 2016 #30

Scheduling a fair primary on the wrong day. Barack_America Mar 2016 #33

Dems breaking the rules versus GOP breaking the rules. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #40

For one state, yes. That would be the fairest thing to do. -none Mar 2016 #36

There are no do-overs... Demsrule86 Mar 2016 #28

There are any do overs anyone wants to do. And there should be on in this case. Zira Mar 2016 #41

Exactly. yardwork Mar 2016 #42

Only if there's evidence that there would have been a substantially different outcome Onlooker Mar 2016 #29

And ban all bullhorns from polling places. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #46

Yes. Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #52