2016 Postmortem

northernsouthern

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69. No you are wrong. I have posted on this.

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:53 PM

Apr 2016

Hillary has won states with 73% turn out, Bernie is at 95%. He is hurt by one low score from Utah where they switched to a caucus because the state did not fund them this year. The DNC decided not to do mail in ballots or the like to save its money for the general election instead. Bernie had a high of 202% turn out in Michigan. Hillary had a low of 51% in Mississippi and a high of 97% in Florida. Hillary can brag all she wants about popular vote leads, but in truth most states have closed primary or hybrid systems. So she won the popular vote in a rigged game that disenfranchised 45% or the electorate (of which the remaining are 26% republican). I wish Bernie would have mentioned the statics in the debates other than just giving them a shout out.

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**** Who won the debate? **** [View all] Agschmid Apr 2016 OP

No one. bigwillq Apr 2016 #1

It was a frustrating watch IMO. Agschmid Apr 2016 #2

It was on at work, so I mainly listened to it. bigwillq Apr 2016 #4

+1 one_voice Apr 2016 #5

Wait for the kids to rush to the online polls. Beacool Apr 2016 #3

Britney might beat Hillary... Agschmid Apr 2016 #6

LOL!!! Beacool Apr 2016 #14

Old Hillary supporters do not understand the Internet. Logical Apr 2016 #18

The what? Agschmid Apr 2016 #21

Nahhhh, we just have better things to do than give a fig about online polls. Beacool Apr 2016 #24

Lol, like wasting time whining here? Nt Logical Apr 2016 #25

Who's whining? Beacool Apr 2016 #36

Hillary's cage? Nt Logical Apr 2016 #41

No, sweets, the Sanders supporters' cage. Beacool Apr 2016 #44

Sweets? Really? Nt Logical Apr 2016 #47

. Dem2 Apr 2016 #58

What cage, babe? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #80

we register on time instead of Tweeting every fleeting thought. bettyellen Apr 2016 #27

Every clueless thought IMO. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #30

Yeah- tweets are generally a huge fucking waste of time. bettyellen Apr 2016 #34

This is a very self involved generation. Beacool Apr 2016 #43

Wow you really hate other generations. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #53

Actually, I'm not old. Beacool Apr 2016 #65

Do you notice the ferrumy? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #68

Young whippersnappers just won't get off her grass. nt revbones Apr 2016 #76

I wanted to say this...but resisted! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #87

You are kidding right? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #57

I am noting their historic levels of non participation. And they haven't been doing enough to move bettyellen Apr 2016 #61

No you are wrong. I have posted on this. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #69

73? 96% ?!?! Demi turnout has been less than 12% on average in most states. Ain't bettyellen Apr 2016 #70

Compared to the last primary. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #72

no one got 96% of anything- the Obama primaries got double the voters out. More young bettyellen Apr 2016 #73

Sorry 2008, no primary in 2012. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #75

Turnout has been less than 12% on average- was over 20% of registered Dems for Obama. bettyellen Apr 2016 #77

Ok... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #85

LOL- "Record turnout at last night's legislative dinner! " And for Republican Idaho caucus! bettyellen Apr 2016 #88

Lol, missed that. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #94

I guess caucuses did much better than the voting, because voting was off. bettyellen Apr 2016 #95

It was not just Caucus states, the largest one was a Primary, and several primaries did really high. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #97

the open primaries get more voters too. no many more of those, though. bettyellen Apr 2016 #98

Yeah. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #99

No, just pointing out that online polls are worthless and are not representative. Beacool Apr 2016 #67

Well they mean the majority of the people involved in the internet traffic... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #71

I didn't vote in this poll. I'll vote where it counts though. shadowandblossom Apr 2016 #101

As opposed to online comments. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #81

No but they may try to sell them . . . LetThemEatCake Apr 2016 #93

Demographically northernsouthern Apr 2016 #103

for the clickety click naysayers restorefreedom Apr 2016 #46

So very dismissive. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #51

Thank goodness. I just had it seeded. Beacool Apr 2016 #54

Well at least you own it. NT northernsouthern Apr 2016 #59

Yes Bernie has the support of a lot of young people. totodeinhere Apr 2016 #56

No, just pointing out that online polls mean zip. Beacool Apr 2016 #64

I'm glad you spoke up! I've been looking for you in order too... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #63

Gotta admit, shocked I haven't made it on that list yet... Agschmid Apr 2016 #74

Isn't it funny? Beacool Apr 2016 #84

Morgan James. nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #7

Captain Morgan. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #82

These kinds of polls show only how unbalanced DU has become ... Onlooker Apr 2016 #8

I like it because I can see who actually has me on ignore... Agschmid Apr 2016 #11

LOL...I think you're on the milder end of the scale Armstead Apr 2016 #16

Haha thank you, I try. Agschmid Apr 2016 #17

Excellent point!!!! George II Apr 2016 #22

Yep, that's why I come here for the entertainment value. Beacool Apr 2016 #33

It is funny the whining from hill fans. And seeing the arrogance. Makes... Logical Apr 2016 #48

About even Armstead Apr 2016 #9

Agree. Agschmid Apr 2016 #12

Me too. Didn't like the snark or innuendo. bettyellen Apr 2016 #29

Britney Dem2 Apr 2016 #10

Ask the crowd WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #13

It sounded like they were chanting... Agschmid Apr 2016 #19

Hmmm, 78% to 11%, that's less than the admitted Sanders/Clinton ratio on DU. Watsup? George II Apr 2016 #15

Some folks are voting for Britney. Agschmid Apr 2016 #20

"show usernames" is always the same thing, time after time Dem2 Apr 2016 #32

It was a Sanders win but he could have been far better. RepubliCON-Watch Apr 2016 #23

I think she is "done". Agschmid Apr 2016 #26

What do you mean exactly? nt RepubliCON-Watch Apr 2016 #31

I think she can't be bothered to do another debate if she takes NY. bettyellen Apr 2016 #37

I think they are both "over" this. Agschmid Apr 2016 #38

I agree. I think likely it'll be a contested convention. nt RepubliCON-Watch Apr 2016 #40

It won't be. Beacool Apr 2016 #60

I get that. RepubliCON-Watch Apr 2016 #62

I don't think that Sanders will surpass Hillary in the pledged delegate count. Beacool Apr 2016 #66

Bernie NWCorona Apr 2016 #28

I voted Bernie, but that isn't who I think won. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #35

Yah she was a good moderator. Agschmid Apr 2016 #39

Online polls while not scientific show Bernie winning debate handily. Pundits -another story. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #42

Draw BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #45

Bernie wasn't getting booooooooos XemaSab Apr 2016 #49

These results as lopsided as the state of Washington's results. w4rma Apr 2016 #50

Wolf Blitzer dchill Apr 2016 #52

Bernie had her on defense most of the nite. jillan Apr 2016 #55

Which is not a good look for her XemaSab Apr 2016 #78

The audience ruined it for me. ecstatic Apr 2016 #79

Systemic Bias LetThemEatCake Apr 2016 #83

Welcome to DU.. Nice post... Fumesucker Apr 2016 #89

Thx LetThemEatCake Apr 2016 #92

One campaign is trying to divide and conquor, the other is trying to unite and overcome Fumesucker Apr 2016 #102

We lose LetThemEatCake Apr 2016 #86

So, since this person admits he works for the Hillary campaign, he's probably not on a lot of Zira Apr 2016 #90

Good call LetThemEatCake Apr 2016 #100

Tie Bernie best on issues but HRC best on name recog and celebrity snowy owl Apr 2016 #91

BRITNEY FREAKING SPEARS???? LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #96

Lol. Agschmid Apr 2016 #107

Really, we all lost, because it was on CNN. nt IamMab Apr 2016 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author .99center Apr 2016 #105

I've watched the first half Demnorth Apr 2016 #106