2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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31. I wish that were true...but also I would point out that the Tea Party are a corporate creation

Mon Apr 18, 2016, 12:49 PM

Apr 2016

They are AstroTurf, backed by the Koch Bros and other big money interests. The problem for the GOP is that the tea party actually started thinking for themselves and opposing the same establishment that organized them...Kind of a Frankenstein scenario.

Sanders has already proven he can do something about corrupt campaign finance by walking the talk.

Also, and I know I'm boring on this, but this video shows what Sanders is capable of in real-world terms of offering a large context and attending to the nuts and bolts..To me it ios very telling both .both in the enthusiasm of his constituents...and in terms of actually getting stuff done.

It's long and rough edged, but his speech is amazing...Takes his stump speech of today and puts it in terms of real stuff.

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Why Bernie Sanders will rue his �deep South� dismissal of black voters [View all] NCTraveler Apr 2016 OP

he doesn't give a shit, he's peddling that "we're out of the south" geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1

It's not an ego ride for Clinton? Armstead Apr 2016 #4

from January geek tragedy Apr 2016 #11

The Number 1 priority for me (and I think most others who support Sanders)... Armstead Apr 2016 #14

the problem is Republicans. The Tea Party types are not beholden to any corporate interests geek tragedy Apr 2016 #18

I wish that were true...but also I would point out that the Tea Party are a corporate creation Armstead Apr 2016 #31

"[Tea Party] are AstroTurf, backed by the Koch Bros Hortensis Apr 2016 #66

That's a pretty big accomplishment MFM008 Apr 2016 #76

It is really starting to look that way. griffi94 Apr 2016 #8

I suspect he has to regret "tactical errors." Hortensis Apr 2016 #78

You are right workinclasszero Apr 2016 #13

So Clinton is going to win South Carolina in the GE? Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #16

No, but she will win Florida and Virginia geek tragedy Apr 2016 #19

That's a pretty bold statement Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #22

This isn't the 1990's. Demographics have changed. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #24

Texas and Georgia may also be in play in November. MineralMan Apr 2016 #32

and this is before the Trumpocalypse at the RNC in Cleveland geek tragedy Apr 2016 #36

I've been savoring the debacle that is the Republican MineralMan Apr 2016 #40

Did you see the story out of the Virgin Islands re: Republicans? geek tragedy Apr 2016 #44

Lived on the rock.for.two years SwampG8r Apr 2016 #45

And I'm sure Hillary being around -20 in her favorables will help SO much with turnout. Arkana Apr 2016 #83

Which campaign has been writing off the votes of everyone in the states which have GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #2

Do people realize that there are also a lot white Democrats in the "deep south"? Dawgs Apr 2016 #3

A lot of people never realize anything about the southern states. MineralMan Apr 2016 #33

If you write off entire regions, you can't lead a party. Period. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #5

"Writing off" is spin. He had limited resources and knew the likelihood of winning those states. merrily Apr 2016 #28

BS from BS CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #37

Wait. you know I'm not Bernie, right? merrily Apr 2016 #39

Great Democratic states apcalc Apr 2016 #42

Florida is purple dsc Apr 2016 #49

What about the other part of my post? merrily Apr 2016 #51

These are mumblings of Jonathan "that's not Bernie in that picture" Capehart nuff said azurnoir Apr 2016 #68

I guess HIllary wrote off those caucus states. n/t winter is coming Apr 2016 #69

Didn't Rachel thoroughly debunk the "did not compete" nonsense? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #6

Yeap, Sanders put a lot of resources into the south and lost... did not do such in non deep south uponit7771 Apr 2016 #72

That's silly. Orsino Apr 2016 #7

But the comments and attitudes remain. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #23

We need those voters in the general. DCBob Apr 2016 #29

But is it true to say that we need all votes equally? Orsino Apr 2016 #53

Sure so why say anything to alienate any group at all? DCBob Apr 2016 #55

There's gray area between pragmatism and alienation/dismissal. Orsino Apr 2016 #57

No, it isn't. Bernie said he didn't get the votes in the deep south because they were conservative pnwmom Apr 2016 #50

+1, the fact they keep saying it is one of the reasons why his base is mostly homogenous uponit7771 Apr 2016 #64

Democrats still run for state legislature, governor, attorney general. Bad move by Popey McPopeface IamMab Apr 2016 #9

I have no idea why so many heads exploded over that invitation, but it's been fun to see. merrily Apr 2016 #30

Its the bullshit ass'd sophistry of the whole trip that Sanders keeps pushing that establish's what uponit7771 Apr 2016 #73

So == clinton is 'pragmatic' and this is admired. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #10

That's what I don't get TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #20

I have been pondering this oldandhappy Apr 2016 #27

Aw, come on. Orsino Apr 2016 #56

He's fucking done. Dismss all they want. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #12

Hillary lost 8 of the last 9 states. Dawgs Apr 2016 #48

Yikes! You're still pushing that dated canard? Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #15

How about this idea, "Hillary Post", if the south were to vote glowing Apr 2016 #17

Reality check: she won Florida by 30%. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #25

Not to mention she has maintained her very impressive margin with black voters in every single state Godhumor Apr 2016 #34

Reality check, barely anyone knew who Bernie was when FL voted. glowing Apr 2016 #80

Why did he do so much better in IL, MO, and MI? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #81

They had more time with him. glowing Apr 2016 #87

FL voted the same day, so did Ohio. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #88

But Hillary will not rue her dismissal of Bernie Supporters? beedle Apr 2016 #21

Yeah, yeah, like every independent is anti-Clinton will vote Green, for a repug or stay home. brush Apr 2016 #38

oddly enough I talk to people, I can just represent my area, but geeze louise, Clinton is hated hollysmom Apr 2016 #47

Yeah, that comment struck me as well. DCBob Apr 2016 #26

Yes Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #85

Ego boost for Sanders, big bucks for Devine as his company makes $800k per month off the campaign brush Apr 2016 #35

this person has interpreted stuff wrong before and definitely deliberately misinterpreted this hollysmom Apr 2016 #41

Rue the day. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #43

Every State in the Deep South has anti gay laws. They don't speak for me. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #46

Because of primary dem voters? You understand how overtly dismissive or uninformed this claim is? uponit7771 Apr 2016 #71

Bill Moyers ranks Clinton 42 up there with Reagan as top "dog whistle" campaigns WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #52

They have it exactly backwards. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #54

I was just about to post that very same point. w4rma Apr 2016 #58

Funny how they, by large numbers, do not vote for Sanders. Why is that, you think? Tarc Apr 2016 #60

Misinformed and clinging to old ways. Fortunately, young people are seeing the light ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #61

Really? Hasn't almost a year of campaigning been enough? Tarc Apr 2016 #62

Nope. Not when you start with zero name recognition and have to overcome constant race-baiting ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #63

So is it your position that after nearly a year black and brown politicos still don't know Sanders? uponit7771 Apr 2016 #74

Sorry kid, but the A-A community is a bit smarter than you think they are Tarc Apr 2016 #75

Podium Bird tell you that too? uponit7771 Apr 2016 #65

Back to race-baiting? Uh oh. Internal polls must show NY closing. Karmadillo Apr 2016 #59

Stating facts relevant to context of the primary is race baiting to racist. Sanders meme here uponit7771 Apr 2016 #70

yes exactly, internals be scaring clintoncorp. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #79

Jonathan Capehart says what? azurnoir Apr 2016 #67

#Berniemath is colorblind RandySF Apr 2016 #77

Race baiting is so yesterday. Autumn Apr 2016 #82

Honest question. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #84

Jonathan Capehart? QC Apr 2016 #86