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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
20. Obviously, you know little of the background of the State Dept backing an increase but not
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:11 PM
Apr 2016

one that would hurt Haiti worse than they already were. Would Haitians be better off making $10 an hour, you darn right. But who is going to help then get that. Certainly not Sanders and his supporters who believe America First and screw the rest of the world.



". . . . . . .Now, of course, it would be wonderful if Haitians could make far more than $3 a day on average for working in an apparel mill. But — as history shows — that requires that Haitian workers and Haitian factory managers develop the skills to do more complex things than just make a T-shirt. T-shirts are so cheap, there just isn't much profit in there to pay anybody well. Some Haitian factories do make polo shirts and other higher skill products, and they pay better. If Haiti can move up to much higher-end production — like luxury items, say, for chic New York stores — then Haitians' will make even more money.

"This has been the story of industrial development throughout the world. In England, in the early days of the industrial revolution, workers began making simple, coarse cloth and then learned and developed skills and inventions and eventually made far more complex and valuable goods. Their wages rose along with their skill. Then, New England stole some Brit technology, developed its own coarse cloth business and then learned to make higher value goods. This story, of course, has been repeated in the American South, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, China. A surprisingly large number of countries that are middle- or high-income today were able to move out of pre-industrial subsistence agriculture by first adopting low-end textile and apparel manufacturing and then developing greater and greater skills.

"Part of Haiti's tragedy is that it was, once, farther down the road of industrial development than it is today. From the 1970s through the early 1990s, Haiti developed some decent, higher-skill apparel factories and even some electronics assembly factories.

"But years of political instability, misrule, and a U.S.-led embargo during Haiti's post-Aristide dictatorship all but destroyed the local industry. By the time Haiti was ready to develop its industry again in the past five years, global manufacturing technology and trade had been so thoroughly transformed that Haiti had to, basically, start all over. . . . . . ."

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2011/06/10/137064161/would-a-5-a-day-minimum-wage-make-life-better-in-haiti

NO, I won't... haikugal Apr 2016 #1
Missing link again Meteor Man Apr 2016 #2
No. LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #3
That would be akin to voting for a Republican. Maedhros Apr 2016 #4
Nope. djean111 Apr 2016 #5
DWS was one of the Dem sellouts Meteor Man Apr 2016 #11
So you think President Obama is working to destroy America? What a bunch of Tea Party nonsense. tritsofme Apr 2016 #6
Obama supports TPP Meteor Man Apr 2016 #9
What part is "Tea Party nonsense"? Anyone supporting TPP is supporting the relinquishing of our Vincardog Apr 2016 #21
Hell no! Trajan Apr 2016 #7
Kick for NO kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #8
It depends on why they vote for it. The TPP and similar agreements are more than "trade' agreements Hoyt Apr 2016 #10
Yeah, our State Dept defeating the .61 per hour minimum wage in Haiti will REALLY help to Skwmom Apr 2016 #12
Obviously, you know little of the background of the State Dept backing an increase but not Hoyt Apr 2016 #20
Well you should see what they sell Hanes and Fruit of the Loom for in my neck of the woods. Hardly Skwmom Apr 2016 #24
Maybe some of those "international" unions should have gone over and helped. Guess they figured Hoyt Apr 2016 #30
TISA wants to let education, etc. be privatized by multinational corporations with NO RIGHT for the Skwmom Apr 2016 #15
TPP is more than a trade agreement Meteor Man Apr 2016 #19
Nope. eom DookDook Apr 2016 #13
I will, in fact, actively campaign against any of my congresscritters who support it. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #14
No. jwirr Apr 2016 #16
And, Hillary is bragging about donating to their campaigns. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #17
No Third Doctor Apr 2016 #18
No. Never. In fact, I would vote against such a candidate. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #22
not a chance. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #23
No (nt) bigwillq Apr 2016 #25
No no and no n/t MuseRider Apr 2016 #26
That would be akin to loading a gun and handing it to someone who just threatened to harm you.. AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #27
Which Democrat are you thinking and whom are they running against? Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #28
the TPP is one issue, and it's possible to oppose it while also finding the hyperbole geek tragedy Apr 2016 #29
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