2016 Postmortem

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146. The comparison is between how it was great and transparent when Snowden

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:28 PM

Apr 2016

revealed it. The demands then were for total transparency. There were to be no state secrets, according to some posters. It was authoritarian to argue there should be any.

Now suddenly there is an acknowledgment that there is such a thing as national security and some things ought not to be revealed and it was too dangerous for Hillary to have that information on another server. From basically the same posters.

They should not care, because it makes it all transparent.

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Clock is ticking Hillary supporters [View all] GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 OP

So explain to me how a SOS would NOT know this information was classified? Skwmom Apr 2016 #1

It's great that you ask the same question every day, Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #3

I don't ask it everyday. I just can't wait to hear the spin on this one. It should be a doozy! Skwmom Apr 2016 #6

Some people are rock Apr 2016 #8

Out of respect to you, I am going to pay homage after tomorrow night. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #9

. Dem2 Apr 2016 #13

ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #14

17 ouch's, is that a prediction? Dem2 Apr 2016 #16

+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #27

Feel free, but it won't bother me. Skwmom Apr 2016 #44

The so-called "classified" info was taken from MEDIA REPORTS about drone strikes pnwmom Apr 2016 #128

It is possible egalitegirl Apr 2016 #70

Myth No. 2: The Attack Had Nothing to do With the anti-Islam Video puffy socks Apr 2016 #89

Actually, it is utterly believable to me that someone of HRC's age still speaks to a Dictaphone WheelWalker Apr 2016 #104

Under the Clinton Plan, every government employee can evade FOIA IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #125

Not true. The Federal law changed after Hillary left office and she doesn't support changing the law pnwmom Apr 2016 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #150

She's never said she was above it. It didn't exist when she was in office. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #151

Yep! ANY. DAY. NOW!!!!!1111one Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #2

Member since 2003. sheshe2 Apr 2016 #39

They don't care! Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #4

The only chance for Sanders KingFlorez Apr 2016 #5

I know right? nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #20

She should just quit RobertEarl Apr 2016 #23

My leader? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #26

Your Leading candidate, right RobertEarl Apr 2016 #28

Given that each of these Secretaries of State need to be trained ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #30

You are a laugh a minute RobertEarl Apr 2016 #32

This is hardly the same. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #43

And the fact that we're resorting to Right Wing punditry to make our point doesn't bother you? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #46

Awwww, we make you mad? RobertEarl Apr 2016 #52

I'm talking about the OP ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #55

So you like to cackle? RobertEarl Apr 2016 #60

Many people have been nice to me here. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #62

Why were they nice to you? RobertEarl Apr 2016 #68

I was never a Bernie supporter. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #71

So you'll vote for Trump? RobertEarl Apr 2016 #75

Where did I ever say that? LOL nolawarlock Apr 2016 #79

The best part of your post about thinking I'm for Trump nolawarlock Apr 2016 #83

I don't see your sig line RobertEarl Apr 2016 #85

Really? Nice try. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #86

He probaly will win RobertEarl Apr 2016 #91

So if you consider Hillary such a Republican ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #93

Oh, and you must be on a phone or something... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #92

I'm sure it is RobertEarl Apr 2016 #94

It fascinates me that you use Lincoln as your avatar ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #96

You're posting that video? metroins Apr 2016 #7

Yes. GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 #19

how? Unicorn Apr 2016 #45

Judge Napolitano is not credible. metroins Apr 2016 #51

Thank you, I will start googling him. Unicorn Apr 2016 #58

Have a good night! metroins Apr 2016 #74

You too! Unicorn Apr 2016 #77

I don't know who he is but I have seen him on some shows and he gives very clear pdsimdars Apr 2016 #135

They already knew that. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #66

It only hurts people who don't want to deal with the truth . . they have to do more mental pdsimdars Apr 2016 #134

This shit was alerted and allowed to stay? ronnykmarshall Apr 2016 #10

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #11

Poster on DU should go down RobertEarl Apr 2016 #25

+1 Unicorn Apr 2016 #48

Spreading State secrets was oh, so grand and heroic and statue worthy when Snowden did it. Scurrilous Apr 2016 #122

The hilarity and utter scurrilousness of your comparison of Snowden (all things public, common good) BirdieSanders Apr 2016 #132

The comparison is between how it was great and transparent when Snowden treestar Apr 2016 #146

+1 treestar Apr 2016 #145

^^^^^^^^^^^ Amen! ^^^^^^^^^^^ pdsimdars Apr 2016 #138

I wouldn't call the person vile ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #56

I'm pretty sure they can start posting stuff about Vince Foster and it would be allowed to stay nolawarlock Apr 2016 #31

Hillary supporter mentions Vince Foster - drink! IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #123

A Bernie supporter already posted a site where Vince Foster was among the conspiracy theories ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #139

Conference call about lowering infant mortality and helping special needs IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #148

Fox journalism is right wing spin enough ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #149

Facts are not pathetic, what is pathetic is ignoring facts. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #137

Disgusting! Does anyone have the Enemies Within piece on Sander's? Repost on this thread! Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #12

You've seen it but you don't have it? CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #21

So you probably think that a friend who won't let you driver yourself home when you are drunk pdsimdars Apr 2016 #141

Fox news trollery is allowed to be posted here? Dem2 Apr 2016 #15

So documents don't match word for word? Kalidurga Apr 2016 #37

No reasonable person defends the troll in the video Dem2 Apr 2016 #38

A source can be illegitimate yet still factual Kalidurga Apr 2016 #40

Legitimate source, or else Dem2 Apr 2016 #41

Facts or else Kalidurga Apr 2016 #42

OMG, I've read about this logical fallacy! I didn't know people still tried this one. Dem2 Apr 2016 #47

Yes you have to have a reason other than it's FOX to say it's not true Kalidurga Apr 2016 #59

Nobody is buying what you're selling. Dem2 Apr 2016 #61

It's the RWers who put party before principle Kalidurga Apr 2016 #98

Fucking alert it or quit whining. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #76

You are capable. Dem2 Apr 2016 #80

+1 JoePhilly Apr 2016 #126

Garbage right wing crap. DCBob Apr 2016 #17

The FBI won't indict during the primaries Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #18

That is ok. GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 #22

Good nolawarlock Apr 2016 #29

I can't see Biden being a warhawk. He would be a great improvement. Unicorn Apr 2016 #49

How could Biden be the nominee? He isn't running for President KoKo Apr 2016 #153

How did Fox News become the new normal here? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #24

Now truthfully, do you think for a moment Hillary would release her delegates to Sanders? Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #33

Napolitano? Would that be the same crackpot Judge Andrew Napolitano from Fox? procon Apr 2016 #34

What do we stand for? Unicorn Apr 2016 #50

We shouldn't stand for Right Wing hate from Fox News pundits, that's for sure. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #64

Beyond fracking, I honestly don't know what you stand for. procon Apr 2016 #82

I'm against War, the Death penalty, torture, the TPP, The Keystone XL, The corporatocry Unicorn Apr 2016 #84

It was a rhetorical question. procon Apr 2016 #97

I agree he is not credible. I googled him. Ewww. Unicorn Apr 2016 #99

He does explain the laws very clearly. I've seen him on a number of videos. He's good. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #142

Why, given the man's track record (facepalm), would anyone believe a word he said is credible? procon Apr 2016 #147

It's over for Bernie! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #35

Classy as usual Logical Apr 2016 #78

you got this video from Freerepublic.. asuhornets Apr 2016 #36

That's not the only clock ticking, either. Just wait. just as I predicted, she will take the silvershadow Apr 2016 #53

Me, me, me pdsimdars Apr 2016 #144

Doesn't matter northernsouthern Apr 2016 #54

She is too far behind????? I'd love some of COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #67

She can't win/ northernsouthern Apr 2016 #105

Like I said, you got hold of some COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #107

I got a hold of the Math. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #111

If you're not smoking something, then you're COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #115

I did . northernsouthern Apr 2016 #116

Counting the super delegates? COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #117

Why? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #118

Now I understand 'the math'. OK. If that helps you get through COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #120

Oh you are pretending that the delegates have already voted northernsouthern Apr 2016 #140

No, but you certainly are if you believe that the SD's are COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #152

No she isn't northernsouthern Apr 2016 #154

It's good to have something to blame when COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #156

Yeah, it was very easy... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #157

I think that some people on this board have a problem with reality. Beacool Apr 2016 #106

Library? What's that? grossproffit Apr 2016 #110

It is a place that people to to get books. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #112

Agreed northernsouthern Apr 2016 #113

So now we post Free Republic stuff from a Rightwing Liar at Fox? Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #57

It's the new normal. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #63

I guess this is what happens when hopelessness breeds Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #65

hah! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #73

Yep. That's apparently what passes for anti-Hillary COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #69

After tomorrow revmclaren Apr 2016 #81

off topic: I'm not too fond of Fox News, but... desmiller Apr 2016 #72

The other networks are just 840high Apr 2016 #87

No doubt. desmiller Apr 2016 #90

Someone is quoting Napolitano here with a straight face? He's a whackjob. Why not just find a kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2016 #88

Fox ? GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 #95

Don't play the pollyanna. procon Apr 2016 #101

If Fox is the National Enquirer ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #121

The Daily Mail is basically Fox News UK, right? ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #100

Not sure. They hate Trump. Love Obama. 840high Apr 2016 #102

Well the latest word on DU these days ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #103

he's not? he said he was himself,more than raygun even. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #131

Cut Rip Van Winkle some slack Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #136

If Fox News commentators say so... brooklynite Apr 2016 #108

your concern is noted... Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #109

Another goddamned "supporters" thread. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #114

Wait, am I on Free Republic? Beacool Apr 2016 #119

Yes, you are. That's where they love to post 3 month old, long discredited stories.nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #124

Ironic username, no? GoLeft is trying to take DU further right by making the abominable 'normal'. randome Apr 2016 #127

GoLeft2004 MFM008 Apr 2016 #129

Many seem to be just as bubble headed as those who actually watch FOX. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #133

Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Apr 2016 #143

Article is from February - why is it not on CNN and NBC every night if true? Justice Apr 2016 #155