Andy Stephenson would be so proud.

[Cal Carpenter]

45. You have a selective memory

if you think elected Dems were on board with challenging the votes in 2000 or 2004. In 2000, not a single senator would step up to challenge the election results. In 2004 it was almost as bad until Boxer (iirc) put her ass on the line for it. Andy was working with members of BOTH parties - anyone who would take the issue seriously. - in fact a Republican Senator, John Ensign, wrote a stronger bill than the Dems at that time in terms of black box election machines and voter protections. Andy Stephenson supported that bill because it was better, and because this is an issue of democracy for all people, not a particular party or another. With only a few exceptions (Boxer, Conyers et al) Dems put up as much of a fight against true transparency in elections as Repubs. And here we are more than 10 years later with the same problems - it isn't a mere accusation to claim that Dems haven't taken up the cause, it is a fact. It was a lot easier to assume we were all on the same side during the Bush years and a lot easier not to worry about it at all during the Obama years...

And seeing as how you'll probably check my profile yes, I was there. I was here on DU and very active in the election reform forum. I was on site in Ohio and other states at meetings, protests, converences. I spent time with Andy at an election reform conference in Ohio just weeks before he died. I worked closely with him and many other activists (Duers and others) on letter campaigns to get sponsors on bills and other objectives.

(I had to retire my old user-name soon after all that which had something like 20K posts because trolls with vendettas knew who I was. And no, I won't tell you what it was.)

eta: bottom line is that I agree with the OP.