2016 Postmortem

bahrbearian

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79. But but, enabling Republicans ,Enabling Republicans! They should just get a room.

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #67)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:16 PM

Apr 2016

You may be good with that shit, but don't come out and say "vast right wing conspiracy" then get in bed with them.

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"Jill Stein: The Democratic Party 'fakes left,' marches right" [View all] Vote2016 Apr 2016 OP

More bashing of the Democratic Party. leftofcool Apr 2016 #1

Defending FDR's values against a domestic neoliberal/foreign neocon collapse in values isn't bashing Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #3

Damn Well Said! Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #38

There could not be a clearer choice Baobab Apr 2016 #76

Yes, there is a choice SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #103

Bingo, but try explaining that to Bernie-ites tonyt53 Apr 2016 #104

No, she wont win Baobab Apr 2016 #116

I love cognitive resonance SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #119

THIS! vintx Apr 2016 #113

+10000 n/t Triana Apr 2016 #121

+100 840high Apr 2016 #137

Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #170

The New Democratic Party has values!!!??? Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #9

"Sure we'll stab you in the back, you just won't be sure it was us." GoneFishin Apr 2016 #35

Exactly. Then they will scream why arent we supporting them? Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #39

Best 'people' party corporate money can buy n/t w0nderer Apr 2016 #102

She is trashing those that have sold their souls for a little gold. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #24

But she and Bill were dead broke after leaving the WH Armstead Apr 2016 #48

So since then they manage to amass about $10 million per year. For some pretty damn rhett o rick Apr 2016 #50

Great speeches...Transcendent speeches.....Divinely inspired verbiage Armstead Apr 2016 #52

a well deserved bashing and why would you assume Jill Stein is pro Tad Devine? m-lekktor Apr 2016 #57

Tad Devine was around just after the 1968 convention when they were created? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #144

Try research, it helps leftofcool Apr 2016 #151

No shit ... ronnykmarshall May 2016 #168

How is it bashing to address that policies have drifted towards a philosophy that is neo-liberal? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #163

She can go to hell along with Tad Devine ronnykmarshall May 2016 #166

Wrong is wrong Bettie May 2016 #177

But this "bashing" (a.k.a. criticism) is well deserved. Betty Karlson May 2016 #178

That's why we don't let them vote in are primaries either Skink Apr 2016 #2

If they want to vote in our primaries they need to register. grossproffit Apr 2016 #7

Where their registrations will most likely be switched to Republican before the election, Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #16

Blaming the victim is typical of the Clinton/Conservative Wing. Those that get disenfranchised rhett o rick Apr 2016 #25

Yea , they not Real American either! Let them go back to where they came from. bahrbearian Apr 2016 #29

If you're party wants to have closed primaries... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #41

Who? CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #4

Exactly. grossproffit Apr 2016 #8

Welcome to DU! moriah Apr 2016 #5

yeah get in line Skink Apr 2016 #10

It's not my line, it's Skinner's line. moriah Apr 2016 #20

There are plenty of places to discuss sharp_stick Apr 2016 #124

"Welcome to DU" corkhead Apr 2016 #14

This article does not advocate for a 3rd party candidate. nt LWolf Apr 2016 #112

Once Hillary realizes that bernie's supporters know her claiming to move even a millimeter to the djean111 Apr 2016 #6

I think it's to hold together her current base dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #11

I think you're right BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #15

LOL! Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #18

well I think many of them believe what is convenient to believe dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #21

Commonly known as "limousine liberals", more recently "latte liberals" nt BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #23

I have understood this a long time, most are comfortable financially (not necessarily rich) but Dragonfli Apr 2016 #98

True what you say, there were "Rockefeller Republicans" who were were the left of what is now the Blue Meany Apr 2016 #101

+1000 blackspade Apr 2016 #165

More "she's a Republican" smears from the Purity Party- Bullshit. redstateblues Apr 2016 #60

Who's the most liberal? byyiminy Apr 2016 #73

Yep. And she's going to try to win this on identity politics (read: I'm a woman!) alone. reformist2 Apr 2016 #13

Only her rhetoric has moved left. Pandering is right. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #26

People will choose half a loaf instead of none. Then one-quarter, then one-eighth... crumbs, anyone? reformist2 Apr 2016 #12

She hits them hard! dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #17

She's a better candidate for POTUS than Clinton, but Bernie is a better Zorra Apr 2016 #19

She might speak it, that's why I'd like to see the speech transcripts dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #22

The Green Party: Can't get elected. Enables right Renew Deal Apr 2016 #27

The Democratic Party: Can't nominate a progressive candidate. Capitulates right Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #30

People new to politics may not have been around for the election of Barack Obama Renew Deal Apr 2016 #32

Were you around in 2000? byyiminy Apr 2016 #75

I was and I enthusiastically voted for Al Gore. Did you? Renew Deal Apr 2016 #82

You also then voted for conservative Joe Lieberman n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #127

And you didn't? Renew Deal Apr 2016 #132

I don't vote for conservatives. Your mileage may vary n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #134

Barack got in due to duping the truedelphi Apr 2016 #152

Yep GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #161

Talk about enabling the right bahrbearian Apr 2016 #34

Yes, we get it. Political opponents should be treated like battlefield enemies. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #67

But but, enabling Republicans ,Enabling Republicans! They should just get a room. bahrbearian Apr 2016 #79

You're letting your fantasies get the best of you. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #85

Just a couple of co-workers being Cordial bahrbearian Apr 2016 #96

Yes, by the Clintonistas treatment of them. Should work out well for you. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #88

Even more sickening: bvar22 Apr 2016 #148

Wait for it. She's a Commie, Hippie, troublemaking, treehugger. Not to mention sexist and racist. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #28

Damn I didnt know. I thought she was a simply a rabid, corporate socialist willing to sell the Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #89

How many primarys has Stein won? tirebiter Apr 2016 #31

You mean she just gets appointed the Green Party candiate? In some kind of back-room deal? IamMab Apr 2016 #43

I'm really sorry your talking point is bullshit JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #154

Greens select their candidate at their convention. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #56

Great points, thanks! alan2102 Apr 2016 #143

Green Party presidential primaries, 2016 Zorra Apr 2016 #59

Yep Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #94

Highest elected office of Jill Stein: Lexington Town Committee frazzled Apr 2016 #33

You're completely oblivious to why she'll get votes. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #66

Not a member of the 0.36% myself ... so I guess I don't get it frazzled Apr 2016 #91

In the future, when the Greens have a viable party... COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #131

If the 2 parties splinter into 4,... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #135

It's not impossible that the sun will not rise tomorrow, either. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #136

No, 25% DOESN'T become viable... brooklynite Apr 2016 #139

I know how it works. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #142

I'm inclined to think a center-right/center-left coalition is far more likely brooklynite Apr 2016 #145

That is possible. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #149

The Sane Progressive is one of her super delegates. oasis May 2016 #167

Well I don't know about social issues but on... actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #36

What a perennial hack sharp_stick Apr 2016 #37

Love it or Leave it? Is that the new Hillary bumper sticker? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #46

If Stein ever ran for the Democratic nominee sharp_stick Apr 2016 #49

She's running for president. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #117

Feel free to express your contemp for Stein too sharp_stick Apr 2016 #120

I've read it. And, I admire Jill Stein. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #122

Loads of contempt for her sharp_stick Apr 2016 #123

Maybe I will/maybe I won't. And, that's a promise. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #129

Amurika!!! Love it or leave it!!!! Do your Duty!!! Fuck Yeah!!! Autumn Apr 2016 #64

No, what you hear sharp_stick Apr 2016 #125

I think you must have all the right Hillary supporters on ignore. Autumn Apr 2016 #126

That's distinctly possible sharp_stick Apr 2016 #128

Here's a song for ya Armstead Apr 2016 #51

I'll be right back Skink Apr 2016 #81

Aside from her perennial presidential campaign, what are Jill Stein's accomplishments again? Any? IamMab Apr 2016 #40

Aside from destabilizing countries, Pro TPP, endless war mongering what has Clinton done? Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #42

If you can't answer the question, why bother responding? IamMab Apr 2016 #44

Just pointing out what exactly does Clinton actually offer? Not deflection It's Comparison shopping. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #54

And yet you still can't answer what Jill Stein's done to be worth voting for. IamMab Apr 2016 #58

LOL!!!! Project much? So Clinton has nothing to offer eh! Thanks And I welcome your Ignore. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #61

pro fracking, gag oldandhappy Apr 2016 #86

yep that too, we could go on all day Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #87

Not much, but a few things, let's compare accomplishments of Sanders v Clinton Dragonfli Apr 2016 #107

From her wenbsite -- At least know what the hell you're talking about Armstead Apr 2016 #70

Fuck Ralph Nader...nt SidDithers Apr 2016 #45

Someones having a sad. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #62

Fuck Ralph Nader x 100 workinclasszero Apr 2016 #97

assholes alan2102 Apr 2016 #146

She is correct, but DU isn't the proper place to talk about Stein. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #47

This isn't a discussion of Stein. It's a discussion of the Democratic Party. I'm voting Sanders, not Vote2016 Apr 2016 #53

I don't even know why Hillary's supporters even bother denying this, now. n/t djean111 Apr 2016 #55

To keep up the illusion of democracy. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #80

What she's saying is obvious enough ... surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #65

Opinions differ on change from the inside. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #74

If the status quo establishment will nominate the least trusted and most disliked candidate since Vote2016 Apr 2016 #95

See post #98 as it is directly related to points you are making plus what it means re the parties Dragonfli Apr 2016 #110

If she'd like to influence the Democratic choice, I'd suggest she join the Party brooklynite Apr 2016 #63

Ha -- Look at the response of "the Democratic Party" to Sanders Armstead Apr 2016 #69

lol! "Fuck you and your progressive values; now get on board with the candidate I chose for you!" Vote2016 Apr 2016 #72

If you all ship over to The Green Party, you might DOUBLE her vote...to 1.3% brooklynite Apr 2016 #109

A revealing look behind the curtain at "influencing" the Party Establishment: bvar22 Apr 2016 #150

When did Jill Stein become a voice for Democratic Underground? seabeyond Apr 2016 #68

IDK. When the DNC abandoned the role as a voice for Democrats? Vote2016 Apr 2016 #77

Silly you seabeyond Apr 2016 #90

She didn't. She's a voice of desperation. MineralMan Apr 2016 #78

How is being the nominee of a third party desperate? I don't think that the nominees of the Green or Vote2016 Apr 2016 #83

Each individual vote is meaningless unless the difference between candidates' vote totals is "1" JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #155

Money talks (nt) Babel_17 Apr 2016 #71

"Money doesn't talk, it screams" bbgrunt Apr 2016 #93

Money doesn't talk or scream; it commands. Vote2016 Apr 2016 #99

The Dem Party is likely heading toward an historic split. Broward Apr 2016 #84

I don't think the Democratic Party will split, but this election will redefine both parties so that Vote2016 Apr 2016 #92

There will be a shake-up in both parties. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #105

Yeah, may be. It wouldn't be the first time there were tectonic ideological shifts Broward Apr 2016 #106

Yep. I fully expect to see the predicted split by 2020. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #133

K&R The Democratic Party should earn our support felix_numinous Apr 2016 #100

Jill Stein and the Green Party: Their left wing talk is nothing but a veneer for supporting Trump tritsofme Apr 2016 #108

"RESISTANCE IS FUTILE" "DRINK THE KOOL-AID" "WAR IS PEACE" Vote2016 Apr 2016 #111

Cute slogans, but my post is the sober truth. tritsofme Apr 2016 #115

Your post was nonsense. People can write in a candidate, vote Libertarian, vote Green, or stay home Vote2016 Apr 2016 #118

If enough people take that mentality, then Trump could carry "blue" states with margins like 47-46-7 tritsofme Apr 2016 #153

If she's that vulnerable, we should nominate someone who isn't the least liked/most distrusted Vote2016 Apr 2016 #158

I don't think she is. I just reject the argument that voting third party can always be consequence tritsofme Apr 2016 #159

How many times has Jill Stein ever voted with Republicans in congress? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #147

She's correct. LWolf Apr 2016 #114

More appreciation for the party who allowed Sanders to run in our primaries, we are the Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #130

Sanders won't run for president with a Third Party. Eric J in MN May 2016 #172

He has given his word on third party and also backing the DNC nominee. Thinkingabout May 2016 #173

He shouldn't try to get his goals into the Democratic Party platform? NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #174

Not the unrealistic ones. Thinkingabout May 2016 #175

Jill Stein is correct! CobaltBlue Apr 2016 #138

Oh, her again... Scurrilous Apr 2016 #140

Sorry, Stein. The Democratic party is not a Socialist collective. Beacool Apr 2016 #141

Oh FFS -- The ANGST about who's right and who's left is over the TOP. Sparkly Apr 2016 #156

This post blatantly violates DU's TOS: baldguy Apr 2016 #157

This advocates in favor of Sanders - so now the best liked and most trusted candidate is a spoiler? Vote2016 Apr 2016 #160

Truth hurts. blackspade Apr 2016 #162

One thing that Democrats do that Stein does not do, is eridani Apr 2016 #164

K&R'd & bookmarked. snot May 2016 #169

Obama has progressive accomplishments. Eric J in MN May 2016 #171

So Jill Stein has her own party since Progressive dog May 2016 #176