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In reply to the discussion: Those who would not vote for Hillary in the GE, have you taken a good look at the Big-Picture? [View all]silvershadow
(10,336 posts)104. I'm a Union Labor guy. I've been looking at the big picture since Reagan and Bill. nt
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Those who would not vote for Hillary in the GE, have you taken a good look at the Big-Picture? [View all]
Cal33
May 2016
OP
How about staying home? Would you do that? Not voting also means one Democratic vote fewer.
Cal33
May 2016
#2
As long as they are helping the Republicans to lose. The most important point is what will
Cal33
May 2016
#25
Great for you guys. I hope other states will also get more Progressives into Congress.
Cal33
May 2016
#28
I think the really big question is "What could happen to our entire nation if I did this or
Cal33
May 2016
#12
How about thinking in terms of which is the greater of two evils for our entire nation? I
Cal33
May 2016
#41
When there are two evils, I think I will always try to fight to prevent the greater
Cal33
May 2016
#59
Yes, there are several names - Goldman Sachs, WalMart, Citigroup, Pharmaceutical Cos., Insurance
Cal33
May 2016
#129
Yes, they are firmly in control, but not completely. If we help a Republican president to win this
Cal33
May 2016
#17
The gravest threat is climate destabilization. I will NEVER vote for someone who doesn't address it
onecaliberal
May 2016
#5
The Republicans will more certainly NOT address climate destabilization than Hillary. As
Cal33
May 2016
#22
The status quo destroys our environment the same as climate change deniers.
riderinthestorm
May 2016
#95
Glad to know that she said what she did. I hope she will live up to her words, should
Cal33
May 2016
#64
You need to say what group she was speaking to when she put out that particular position right
pdsimdars
May 2016
#142
but Hillary IS a corporatist! She bragged to me how she was an original thinker and early
Kip Humphrey
May 2016
#6
Don't put too much emphasis on names and labels. There are corporatists and corporatists. Some
Cal33
May 2016
#37
If you live in a swing state, pull the straight party lever! If you live in the 45 other states,
Vote2016
May 2016
#8
Sure, do your best for Bernie. I'm doing that, too. But if Hillaary should win, I'd
Cal33
May 2016
#38
If you're from California, our nominee will carry your state regardless of your vote at the top of
Vote2016
May 2016
#40
The big picture, Sander does not have a chance of acquiring 983 delegates by the end of the
Thinkingabout
May 2016
#9
We'll have to elect more Progressives into Congress. The Dems. probably will win the Senate this
Cal33
May 2016
#39
But there are some negatives Clinton will not add to, which a Republican president most definitely
Cal33
May 2016
#43
A Clinton Admin will likely operate more or less the same as the Obama Admin has.
Garrett78
May 2016
#11
As of this moment, and from now on, the leader of the "Not Hillary" Party is Donald Trump.
baldguy
May 2016
#13
If you think in terms of the big-picture, who will do our nation more harm - Hillary or the
Cal33
May 2016
#46
Thinking in terms of names and labels only limits a person. Sometimes one has to think
Cal33
May 2016
#72
I tend to agree . . . they have kept us on this "lesser of 2 evils" for 30+ years now
pdsimdars
May 2016
#143
I'm not there yet on who I will support IF Bernie loses. As long as Bernie is still in the race, I
B Calm
May 2016
#18
I'm frightened about the future (I'm not one of those declaring I won't vote for her).
mmonk
May 2016
#19
If Trump wins it would be disastrous. Cruz might be worse. I don't think either of them can win.
Cal33
May 2016
#73
I agree with you in general. I'm voting against the fron-runner who, I think, will do
Cal33
May 2016
#75
Yes, I too sometimes worry for the younger people, and hope that this mess we are in will
Cal33
May 2016
#82
Yes, I have, for over 30 yrs. Tired of holding nose being miserable, I'll voter for whomever makes
ViseGrip
May 2016
#61
I think Hillary would help the Corporatists in many ways, but she would not help them at
Cal33
May 2016
#107
Yes I have. Hillary - needless war. Trump - gawd only knows. Either one and the climate loses.
Live and Learn
May 2016
#76
Not voting means one less vote for the Democrats. It's helping the Republicans to win. And
Cal33
May 2016
#91
The climate won't wait. Hillary will continue the march towards oligarchy and economic injustice.
Live and Learn
May 2016
#96
Here you and I differ. I don't think Hillary is as bad as Trump or any other Republican. Hence,
Cal33
May 2016
#93
What makes you think the 5th Democratically appointed SupremeCourt Justice would not be
Cal33
May 2016
#114
I do care about both -- as do millions of Sanders supporters. You were the one who brought up
Cal33
May 2016
#116
I agree that we should have and could have switched over to solar, wind and tide power some
Cal33
May 2016
#136
I've read somewhere that 33% of voting Sanders supporters would not vote for Hillary. Others
Cal33
May 2016
#94
Speaking of looking at the big picture . . . how is it that you are not aware that this is not
pdsimdars
May 2016
#86
I am very well aware that this is not the GE. I am also aware that Sanders chances of
Cal33
May 2016
#97
You don't appear to be aware this is not the GE because your attention is not here.
pdsimdars
May 2016
#99
I am not blackmailing anybody - emotionally or otherwise. As long as Bernie is running, I
Cal33
May 2016
#98
People who currently support Sanders and won't support Hillary in November are shortsighted fools.
Beacool
May 2016
#92
Maybe we wouldn't even have the right to vote by now. Who knows? My priority now is to
Cal33
May 2016
#100
When she loses, maybe the DNC will think twice before trying another corporatist.
Jester Messiah
May 2016
#102
If she loses, within a few years there might be only 1 political Party left, whatever
Cal33
May 2016
#103
We are already a one party country. the money party though it has two right wings
TheKentuckian
May 2016
#117
Yes. We do have the Corporate Power people with 2 right wings, the 2nd wing being a part
Cal33
May 2016
#124
I'm a Union Labor guy. I've been looking at the big picture since Reagan and Bill. nt
silvershadow
May 2016
#104
Those who insist on her being the nominee: have you taken a good look at the Big-Picture?
AgingAmerican
May 2016
#120
Apparently they see a Party that is working for the benefit of ALL the American people as
Cal33
May 2016
#125
I agree that some of the Hillary supporters are making things worse for Hillary. Instead of
Cal33
May 2016
#130
An attempt to describe your point in one sentence: Republican Lites are the ones who
Cal33
May 2016
#131
You'd be right, if things continue on the way they are. I sure hope there will still be genuine
Cal33
May 2016
#139
Yes, I've looked at the big picture. This is precisely why I am not voting for HRC.
EndElectoral
May 2016
#138