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In reply to the discussion: Bernie lost among democrats 54-46% according to exit poll. All primaries should be closed primaries [View all]RichVRichV
(885 posts)98. You act as if there are no Democratic leaning Independents.
The Democratic voting block and Republican voting block are close to the same size. If all the Independents were Tea Partiers then we would never win another election. In reality a substantial amount of the Independent vote leans left. But there is no guarantees that they will turn out for us in a given election. This is why we lose, lack of turnout.
The reason I told you to look at 2008 primaries and not 2012 primaries is because he ran unopposed in the 2012 primary. Good luck getting valid voting data from that one.
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Bernie lost among democrats 54-46% according to exit poll. All primaries should be closed primaries [View all]
qdouble
May 2016
OP
Indiana was open- it is Cali that does not allow Republicans- it is a "hybrid system". Sorry if it
bettyellen
May 2016
#15
Yep, not one peep about open primaries before, until Sanders started clocking Hillary's block. n/t
JimDandy
May 2016
#36
Well since she has won most of the open primaries I think we have done just that!
ContinentalOp
May 2016
#46
Look at post 85. I broke down the Independent votes for all the states that were close in 2012,
RichVRichV
May 2016
#97
The idea is that if we let Republicans vote they will do the opposite. No sale.
bettyellen
May 2016
#60
Yes - let's only let Dems vote for the nominee. And let's not let Independents vote for the Dem
Nanjeanne
May 2016
#18
How, um, democratic of you. Yep. Let the nominee be decided by 26% of the electorate.
Luminous Animal
May 2016
#21
Some of those non-Democrats would vote for Sanders in the GE were he to be nominated.
Garrett78
May 2016
#22
She has won the majority of open primaries, so how do you figure he would win if they all were open?
ContinentalOp
May 2016
#49
The Democratic party does not need or want Independents! The party will summon them when ...
slipslidingaway
May 2016
#41
Unfortunately, the Repub party in Idaho actually did force the state to register voters by party
JimDandy
May 2016
#63
Slaughtered? Such vile, destructive language choices you guys choose. Why is that? nt
Live and Learn
May 2016
#51
Only if the GE is also closed to anyone not reg'd Dem (or living in Brooklyn)
GreatGazoo
May 2016
#53
I think closed primaries should be completely funded by the party that wants to exclude people
FrodosPet
May 2016
#64
All primaries and caucuses should be open. It would be far more democratic.
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2016
#79
If all democratic primaries should be closed, then all democrats should pay for them
Chezboo
May 2016
#102
Bernie lost among democrats 54-46% according to exit poll. All primaries should be closed primaries
jmousso75
May 2016
#106
Spoken by another person who won't look too far back to properly judge history...
MrMickeysMom
May 2016
#111
What the hell is an "outsider"? Someone who didn't go through the secret Democratic rituals?
Armstead
May 2016
#113