2016 Postmortem

JoePhilly

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88. Spare me ... I've been on this site for a long time.

Wed May 4, 2016, 06:14 PM

May 2016

There has ALWAYS been a small and angry contingent here who thinks the country will never embrace their version of utopia until the economy totally crashes and capitalism is no more. Anytime the DOW drops over 200 points they see their fantasy future racing towards us.

Meanwhile ... you call this "Bernie's revolution" ... which is nonsense.

Back in 2014, the "revolution" as you call it wanted Warren, not Bernie. Warren said "No", so Bernie said "Ok, I'll do it."

Back in 2011, the "revolution" wanted a primary challenge of Obama. Of course the "revolution" lacked an actual candidate.

The reason the "revolution" fails is because it does not have the determination to build up an ARRAY of "acceptably liberal" candidates at all levels. Instead, the "revolution" waits for a Warren, or a Sanders to step up and slay the dragon.

Its not a winning strategy.

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Do some of you hope Trump wins so you can say "I told you so?" [View all] Actor May 2016 OP

No. Good god no. morningfog May 2016 #1

What you said! beveeheart May 2016 #15

Nope. nt chknltl May 2016 #2

You keep thinking your happy thoughts nc4bo May 2016 #3

I am so glad to hear that, I truly am. Knowing more and more Bernie people will vote Actor May 2016 #4

No one is forced to vote for Hillary. nc4bo May 2016 #13

So you dont care if Trump wins the White House? Actor May 2016 #14

the two do not equate and you know it demwing May 2016 #23

I am confused, either you agree Hillary is ten thousand times more preferable in the WH Actor May 2016 #24

See, you've already changed your question demwing May 2016 #111

Either Clinton or Trump will win in November. Adrahil May 2016 #32

Every person has a right to vote for whomever. Neither me, you or Jesus the Christ nc4bo May 2016 #25

Not reading into anything. You have two choices in November, you are saying you have 3. Actor May 2016 #28

You read what I said. Go create your little narrative on someone somewhere else. nc4bo May 2016 #31

Probably quite a few more than TM99 May 2016 #134

Youre basically trying to blame a trump WH on Bernie people not voting for Hill. litlbilly May 2016 #40

That is exactly who will be to blame. Anyone who would vote for Bernie but wont vote for Hillary Actor May 2016 #43

I became an indie many years ago, i joined the dem party in july so I could vote for litlbilly May 2016 #49

Owe nothing, correct. Be blamed for Trump, also correct. Actor May 2016 #51

Good luck with that. btw, ignore for you. getting old real fast litlbilly May 2016 #56

I tend not to respond to this type of bait Ned_Devine May 2016 #75

I hear ya. they put a Bernie logo up and think we are fooled. litlbilly May 2016 #76

Heh, nope. Jester Messiah May 2016 #83

Trump thanks you...he really does. The human race not so much. Actor May 2016 #90

The dregs of identity politics Fairgo May 2016 #5

We Dread having to say it Sky Masterson May 2016 #6

One prolific poster (who shall remain unnamed) said ... NurseJackie May 2016 #20

A lot of people have said a lot of stupid shit, here. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #27

I can't speak for others Sky Masterson May 2016 #34

Of course not. pat_k May 2016 #7

I think Trump will receive millions of Democratic votes out of fear. This guy is not messing around. Trust Buster May 2016 #8

What? Fear of what? Actor May 2016 #12

Trump is a textbook Fascist. He will not follow the law. As Trump and Sanders decimate Hillary, Trust Buster May 2016 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Actor May 2016 #22

We have been told time after time over the last eight years that a President is powerless Fumesucker May 2016 #29

Trump is a shrewd operator. If he gives Republicans the Supreme Court they want, they will work Trust Buster May 2016 #35

I'm not following your logic, here. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #37

History is strewn with those who have said the same. Trust Buster May 2016 #45

History is strewn with people who couldnt follow your logic? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #47

That was the same attitude Trump's campaign challengers had. They've been defeated. Trust Buster May 2016 #50

Are you drunk? Codeine May 2016 #61

Trump's campaign challengers thought you weren't making any sense? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #95

Well, I'm glad you joined DU to make absurd judgements about people arcane1 May 2016 #9

Not me (nt) bigwillq May 2016 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 May 2016 #11

Not even a little bit. And I think she'll be a very poor president cali May 2016 #16

But you will vote for her if need be, great. Actor May 2016 #17

Four years is all. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #26

No! nt redwitch May 2016 #19

Absolutely f'ing NOT CincyDem May 2016 #21

I support Bernie. If that doesn't work out, any shit that happens is on the people who didn't GoneFishin May 2016 #30

I dont understand, you mean you will let Trump take over? Really? Actor May 2016 #33

Nope. I will let you work it out. Like two drunks fighting over who gets to drive. I don't think GoneFishin May 2016 #42

Okay, I think we understand you. Count you as a yes. WhiteTara May 2016 #99

Nice projection G_j May 2016 #36

Seems that way, though. I would go so far as to say that some will make sure and not vote Actor May 2016 #39

sounds like projection to me G_j May 2016 #109

This is an utter bullshit flamebait thread farleftlib May 2016 #38

Really? I apologize to you as you clearly will be voting for the Democrat no matter who it is Actor May 2016 #41

I will be voting for the true Democrat/progressive/liberal, and that is Bernie. litlbilly May 2016 #54

I hope Sanders wins. Kelvin Mace May 2016 #44

So do you apply equal dire for Hillary and Trump? Actor May 2016 #46

Yes, it comes down to climate change Kelvin Mace May 2016 #65

So fuck all the minorities and so on, understood. Actor May 2016 #68

Pretty rich TM99 May 2016 #135

No but I will certainly relish doing so if I'm right ibegurpard May 2016 #48

So you will enjoy watching the world destroyed. I believe that, I believe some of you Actor May 2016 #52

with the income inequality, fracking( which your girl not only endorses, but pushes worldwide) we litlbilly May 2016 #64

Not my girl, I support her to the same extent Bernie does. You are advocating for Trump. Actor May 2016 #66

Henry Kissinger is her mentor. redwitch May 2016 #112

not Dylan. And any support of Trump is worse than what I do here. Actor May 2016 #114

Not supporting Trump. redwitch May 2016 #116

Of course they do. Codeine May 2016 #53

No, if Sanders is the nominee by some great tragedy The Second Stone May 2016 #55

No doubt there are some n/t doc03 May 2016 #57

No peace13 May 2016 #58

The success of the right wing destroy Hillary machine is awesome. I mean I hate to Actor May 2016 #62

Well I'm liberal.. peace13 May 2016 #69

So fuck the minorities and everybody Trump will harm, got it. Actor May 2016 #71

If you were interested in minorities you would be for Bernie. peace13 May 2016 #86

I am , but that isnt the point, is it. Actor May 2016 #91

No, and Hell no... whathehell May 2016 #59

Some of them do but can't say that out loud. JoePhilly May 2016 #60

I dont know who to be angrier at, rightwingers who know nothing and vote trump, or Actor May 2016 #63

Interesting point ... many of them ... JoePhilly May 2016 #78

Speaking of insane and out there farleftlib May 2016 #74

Spare me ... I've been on this site for a long time. JoePhilly May 2016 #88

Yeah, a winning strategy farleftlib May 2016 #97

That's a bunch of ranting, not a statement of "strategy". JoePhilly May 2016 #108

Wow you accused me of ranting farleftlib May 2016 #118

She'll win the Dem nomination and the General election. JoePhilly May 2016 #120

Oh why thank you farleftlib May 2016 #124

I predicted that the "revolution" woud waste the years from 2011-2016 ... JoePhilly May 2016 #125

unfortunately true. drray23 May 2016 #133

Getting so tired of this ciaobaby May 2016 #67

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT Actor May 2016 #70

Just a tad sensitive don't you think ? Truth hurts. ciaobaby May 2016 #82

BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT Actor May 2016 #87

in the old days, this was called flame bait amborin May 2016 #72

If you dont want to answer, fine. Actor May 2016 #73

It still is... farleftlib May 2016 #85

You people need to stop. danimich1 May 2016 #77

Do you think your avatar would have baited people with such a question? pangaia May 2016 #79

What does that mean? Actor May 2016 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author pangaia May 2016 #81

The people wrongly predicting a Trump victory over Hillary in the GE... Scurrilous May 2016 #84

turn on the TV...Trump has already won!! Jack Bone May 2016 #89

You are all getting so predictable and boring. NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #92

Not at all, but I am ready and waiting to say "I told you so" many times. Just because you all highprincipleswork May 2016 #93

Yes then, you are looking forward to it, will you help the effort by not voting for her? Actor May 2016 #94

No, that's your assumption and rather perverse way of spinning things, common in the Hillary Group highprincipleswork May 2016 #96

Love this answer, if HIllary GIVES YOU PERSONALLY what YOU PERSONALLY want Actor May 2016 #98

So you are voting for Clinton out of the goodness TM99 May 2016 #136

Too many assumptions there. Short answer: no. Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #100

Jesus, I cant believe what I am reading. I really cant...S I G H Actor May 2016 #103

Emote... if you wish. Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #107

He or she learned how to emote in drama school. redwitch May 2016 #123

If there are, they probably won't have to "hope" too hard. nt NorthCarolina May 2016 #101

Another Trump supporter? Is that what I can take from this? Actor May 2016 #104

You can take away whatever floats your boat I suppose. NorthCarolina May 2016 #105

Either Trump or Clinton winning will afford us ample opportunities on that score. GreenPartyVoter May 2016 #102

You are probably right tymorial May 2016 #106

The thought of a Trump presidency scares the hell out of me Marrah_G May 2016 #110

I'll vote my conscience and let the cards fall where they may. 99Forever May 2016 #113

let the cards fall, translation: you dont give a shit who it harms Actor May 2016 #115

Clinton people don't give a shit who they harm. 99Forever May 2016 #121

Either you are part of the process that stops Trump from destroying the country and maybe Actor May 2016 #122

Bullshit. 99Forever May 2016 #127

He doesn't get paid TM99 May 2016 #138

It is my policy to put posters on ignore who have decided artislife May 2016 #117

Trump thanks you Actor May 2016 #119

No. But if he does, I will. NV Whino May 2016 #126

There have been quite a few posts stating that Hilary will lose to Trump. Beacool May 2016 #128

No! We hope Bernie wins so we can say "We told you so!" B Calm May 2016 #129

Your post is crap. kayakjohnny May 2016 #130

No. But I am telling you right now that it's a bad idea to run her. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #131

Sadly, if we must inform y'all TM99 May 2016 #132

Er...no. Just no. nt LWolf May 2016 #137

Not exactly, no. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #139