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Bluenorthwest

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40. In 08 they voted on Super Tuesday, CA went to Hillary and polling suggested that had they
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:24 AM
May 2016

voted even one month later Obama would have won CA. CA likes to be with the winner and it likes to set the winning trend, setting the losing trend did not sit well with CA voters, so this cycle they moved it back to June.
So CA this cycle is both a Hillary win from 08 and a State that experienced a certain amount of regret for not voting for Obama. My CA Obama ardents were furious that I would not state a preference until Oregon was up for the vote. I favored Obama, but we really needed the full cycle to grow the Party.
2008 increased Democratic voter rolls in Oregon and caused a historic change in the process- both candidates traveled all over the State seeking our votes, not just Portland but all over the State. Prior to 2008, the last Democratic Primary contender to visit Oregon was Bobby Kennedy in 1968. So Hillary and Obama did a great service by vying for that nomination so fully and so well. He got my vote, she got my thanks.

She would not have won by 25 points had they gone first. She's have won, probably. But CA is a very hard call. Even CA can't figure out when they want to vote. They just know they want to be influential. 25 points rather absurd. She beat Obama by 7.5% as I recall.

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For crying out loud, no one is telling Californians to stay home and not vote. LonePirate May 2016 #1
Yes, actually you are. TM99 May 2016 #4
Don't accuse me of something I didn't do. LonePirate May 2016 #7
If you repeat variations on those Clinton TM99 May 2016 #8
I deal in specifics while you deal in generalities. Big difference there. LonePirate May 2016 #9
Tell yourself what ever TM99 May 2016 #10
Concur laserhaas May 2016 #16
They build a strawman, light him on fire, then dance around screaming. JoePhilly May 2016 #23
Yup. Agschmid May 2016 #27
California wa sa part of Super Tuesday in 2008, y'know Tarc May 2016 #2
Here's a reason Bernie needs to stay in it Urchin May 2016 #5
No Democrat is going to mount a mid-stream challenge to a sitting Dem president Tarc May 2016 #6
1968. 1980. You're still allowed to read Wikipedia even though you've been banned from editing. nt Jim Lane May 2016 #11
ssssszzzzzzzzzttt. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #15
I've had a new account since the day after that roadjob, Jim. :) Tarc May 2016 #20
Plllease. With all the mistakes Hillary makes, it is a given. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #14
It would be smacked down as hard as it could possibly be Tarc May 2016 #21
Who said anything about Sanders? nt Live and Learn May 2016 #41
Except for Sanders, that's what he wanted for Obama when he said he'd support a primary challenge uponit7771 May 2016 #19
Major Tom and friends would need a candidate in 2020 ... JoePhilly May 2016 #25
Early 2015: Clinton has the nomination sealed up. She will sail through unless Biden decides to run. Armstead May 2016 #39
I can just about guarantee that party rules will be changed to greatly enhance NorthCarolina May 2016 #35
Bull shit bkkyosemite May 2016 #26
"California primary move creates Super-duper Tuesday" Tarc May 2016 #30
The CA primary was on Super Tuesday in 2000, 2004 and 2008 SFnomad May 2016 #43
some will say "of course you should have a say! Vote... dana_b May 2016 #3
And don't forget your friends on the East Coast. Jim Lane May 2016 #12
I think the beltway and east coast conventional wisdom crowd is only dimly aware Warren DeMontague May 2016 #13
Yes I know being a California native in So. Oregon...it's creepy how they act. bkkyosemite May 2016 #29
Why doesn't CA move their date up? Motown_Johnny May 2016 #17
It shouldn't matter who is first or who is last. Every person's vote counts. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #34
Because of the rules we can't. They don't want California to have any influence. onecaliberal May 2016 #37
I've said time and time again: CA is the lynchpin of our party's electoral strategy Recursion May 2016 #18
In '08 CA voted on Super Tuesday, then they moved it back again this year. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #32
They moved it back to June in 2012 SFnomad May 2016 #44
If Sanders had integrity he would rally his platform and attack Republicans not Clinton, Democrats, seabeyond May 2016 #22
Bull shit - seems to be a bull shit morning bkkyosemite May 2016 #28
The way Democrats run. Not others in our party. We did see the difference this campaign. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #31
Clinton would have won California if they went first bigtree May 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog May 2016 #33
I don't think that's accurate. But glad other states are diverse too. onecaliberal May 2016 #38
It is accurate, though. Garrett78 May 2016 #45
Yes, California should have gone first... SidDithers May 2016 #36
In 08 they voted on Super Tuesday, CA went to Hillary and polling suggested that had they Bluenorthwest May 2016 #40
CA doesn't best represent the US demographically. Garrett78 May 2016 #42
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