2016 Postmortem

1StrongBlackMan

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75. If that is the way you wish to interpret it; then, I can't help that ...

Tue May 10, 2016, 01:01 PM

May 2016

For there is no way you can possibly be so naive as to believe that there are no racist Democrats who view Hillary as their hero because of her fight against Obama in 2008.

I, clearly, stated that there is no question in my mind that IN 2008, there were Democrats that supported HRC because she was running against the Black guy.

Or that none of them would vote for her this election because she is their hero for that reason.

This is so far fetched as to be laughable.

Why is it so important to you that this obvious reality to everyone but you not be true?

Obvious reality? Wow ... we have differing understandings of "obvious" and "reality".

Because it doesn't make a bit of fucking difference. Some racists support Hillary. So what? Does that somehow make her tainted in your eyes?

A lot of racists probably love the same beer/food/car/etc that you do. Does that make that beer/food/car/etc bad?

Or does it piss you off because makes it more difficult to tar Bernie because some of his supporters are racist too?

Okay. I'm going to bow out, now. I'm not going around the bend with you.

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Democrats see Hillary Clinton-Elizabeth Warren dream ticket [View all] cal04 May 2016 OP

Not only does that neutralize Warren, it's going to give more gullible Sanders supporters VulgarPoet May 2016 #1

If they believe Bernie can accomplish his agenda they'll believe anything. Renew Deal May 2016 #11

Here's another one who never listened... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #39

Where is that list of accomplishments? Renew Deal May 2016 #40

My prediction is that Hillary will find it hard finding a VP. Elizabeth Warren won't rescue Hillary. Baobab May 2016 #41

You also predicted Bernie would win. Renew Deal May 2016 #46

Hillary has not won, and for her to get the nomination is suicide for the Democratic Party. Baobab May 2016 #47

The Democratic Party has weighed the options and chosen the candidate they feel is better. Renew Deal May 2016 #54

They certainly did...all in for Hillary. And she's clearly just the libdem4life May 2016 #78

LOL workinclasszero May 2016 #72

There are always plenty of people with more ambition than sense AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #109

See if you can keep a few thoughts separated with this... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #51

Speeches Renew Deal May 2016 #52

I am done that final attempt... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #59

That's the extensive list I expected Renew Deal May 2016 #62

He could easily accomplish his agenda if Progressives really voted for what they want instead of highprincipleswork May 2016 #66

It would be a great ticket Demsrule86 May 2016 #2

Would you if she had run against Clinton in the primary? Armstead May 2016 #38

Historic! Or more like Herstoric! JaneyVee May 2016 #3

It causes the word to make no sense. But sure. Go for it n/t SheenaR May 2016 #58

left out Hysteric. libdem4life May 2016 #81

Not all Democrats liberalnarb May 2016 #4

I guess you're gonna have to work on that top part... brooklynite May 2016 #15

Ok, we'll work on it in... liberalnarb May 2016 #16

Might want to pick up the pace on NJ and CA brooklynite May 2016 #50

must be why Republicans 'presidential' choice Trump mocked Senator Warren recently. Sunlei May 2016 #5

Sorry, but that would say a lot more about Warren than Clinton. Skwmom May 2016 #6

I believe THIS is the fact people are missing yourpaljoey May 2016 #53

Yeah, she would definitely be under that bus in a heartbeat. n/t JTFrog May 2016 #63

As much as I would love it. NCTraveler May 2016 #7

I give Warren more credit... TCJ70 May 2016 #8

Agreed. Warren wouldn't want it. n/t CanadaexPat May 2016 #104

sorry, but there is too much fucking misogyny out there for such an idea. It's going CTyankee May 2016 #9

Um, nope. It would just be massively obvious pandering, with the bonus, for Third Way Hillary, of djean111 May 2016 #10

Warren would be a massively good Vp, no pandering. Two women, you betcha. I would prefer Castro seabeyond May 2016 #19

Warren would make a great President. Which is exctly why Hillary wont pick her. Baobab May 2016 #42

You people are a hoot. Clinton so stupid she is gonna make sure she picks a lousy VP. seabeyond May 2016 #45

We're ridiculed because we're challenging the status quo. Period. Fawke Em May 2016 #57

Nu uh. No way is Clinton going to pick a good VP, she is Clinton after all. Whatever. seabeyond May 2016 #68

She's not known for a good decision making. eom Fawke Em May 2016 #101

Well, if she picks empty suit Castro, she'll accomplish the "lousy" part. BlueStater May 2016 #110

Just a whole post of snotty insults of Dems. seabeyond May 2016 #118

She doesn't want one thats smarter than her. Baobab May 2016 #117

You are just making up shit to insult Clinton. Who does that? seabeyond May 2016 #119

Warren's honesty, her trustworthiness, her progressivism, her selflessness mitigate Hillary's flaws Vote2016 May 2016 #12

Your perceived Clinton flaws that are not reality. I think Warren respects Clinton and they would seabeyond May 2016 #20

Warren's level of respect for Hillary shows. Castro is ideologically what you would expect from a Vote2016 May 2016 #121

Fast Track runs for SIX YEARS and FTAS sign away rights forever Baobab May 2016 #120

cali—Elizabeth Warren should be at the top of the ticket! Lead, not supporting, role. CobaltBlue May 2016 #13

I would vote for an Elizabeth Warren Presidency in a second. Baobab May 2016 #43

+1 Go Vols May 2016 #115

Yeah that's the ticket Autumn May 2016 #14

Words can scarce express how disappointed I'd be in Warren if she accepted. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #17

That makes no sense. We Bernie supporters are misogynist, homophobic racists. ieoeja May 2016 #18

And look at the replies from Sanders supporters. Warren, under the bus you would go. seabeyond May 2016 #21

Of course, I'm anti-Warren. She is a woman. I am a Bernie supporter. I hate women. ieoeja May 2016 #23

Hey, I am a believer we get to define ourselves. So go at it haus. seabeyond May 2016 #25

Where do you see that? TCJ70 May 2016 #61

Warren appears to respect Clinton, and Clinton respects Warren. That is a good thing our seabeyond May 2016 #70

So you're making stuff up... TCJ70 May 2016 #71

I at least have evidence the two seems to be respectful of each other. You though, have nothing. seabeyond May 2016 #74

I asked you where you see Sanders supporters trashing her... TCJ70 May 2016 #85

I know you think you are being sarcastic; but, some of you have show to be just that. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #33

Yes, Bernie does have some bigoted supporters. So does Hillary. Remember 2008? Hillary actually ... ieoeja May 2016 #37

Actually if you looked at exit polls she is losing the white working class voters she won in 08 DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #48

True.As some undoubtedly support her now simply because she *tried* to stop the Black guy in 2008.nt ieoeja May 2016 #56

The data... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #64

True. As some undoubtedly support her now simply because she is trying to stop the Jewish guy. ieoeja May 2016 #67

Yes. I remember 2008. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #60

I think you have an unintended double negative in there. ieoeja May 2016 #65

Yes ... that is correct ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #69

You just called me a liar. It would seem to be that you are the one who is projecting. ieoeja May 2016 #73

If that is the way you wish to interpret it; then, I can't help that ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #75

DU has its share of really stupid people. But you don't seem stupid enough to believe your posts. nt ieoeja May 2016 #77

I'm not going to crazyville with you ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #83

I'm not even sure what to do with this 1strong JustAnotherGen May 2016 #86

Perhaps, this is the "gaslighting" that we hear so much about. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #89

Yep - however your JustAnotherGen May 2016 #96

Phew ... I was becoming concerned! 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #98

No - you are fine JustAnotherGen May 2016 #102

I know ... This past year has taught me such restraint ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #103

He called me "crazy" and a liar before I called him stupid. ieoeja May 2016 #106

Let me think about it . . . JustAnotherGen May 2016 #111

No, you're going to stupidtown. ieoeja May 2016 #91

The more you post the more unhinged you appear ... Let's call it a day. The drinks are on me. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #92

"Racists really are that stupid" = "unhinged"? n/t ieoeja May 2016 #97

Can you point to data that indicates DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #93

I can introduce you to some people I know who are doing that. ieoeja May 2016 #94

See there's that crazy again ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #99

Care to give straight, non-snarky answers for a change? ieoeja May 2016 #105

I'm too stupid to do that ... Remember? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #107

Warren is a dream candidate... Orsino May 2016 #22

They assume Warren would sell her soul to be Hillary's shadow? Ino May 2016 #24

You assume Warren would have to sell her soul to work with Clinton; all indications shows otherwise. seabeyond May 2016 #26

Can see it now...Elizabeth, you go tell those guys to cut it out. K? libdem4life May 2016 #87

Sloppy verbiage Trajan May 2016 #27

Only the braindead and the hopelessly disingenuous farleftlib May 2016 #28

Whomever she picks should shore her up with the base/likely D voters BeyondGeography May 2016 #29

clinton needs to be not out-shone. oldandhappy May 2016 #30

I prefer her in the Senate... she has a much stronger voice there. n/t demmiblue May 2016 #31

Clinton would never accept a VP that would outthink, outspeak, and generally outclass her tularetom May 2016 #32

Not a Freaking Chance FreakinDJ May 2016 #34

I'd vote for that ticket hueymahl May 2016 #35

Warren would not agree to such a matchup, this is just Hillary trying to woo NorthCarolina May 2016 #36

Half dream (Warren), half nightmare whatchamacallit May 2016 #44

This would unite the party but Hillary is too selfish to nominate a running-mate who is better liked Attorney in Texas May 2016 #49

Never happen. Fawke Em May 2016 #55

Exactly nt wendylaroux May 2016 #76

Someone like Bloomberg would fit her to a "T". [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #80

Absoultely, it won't happen. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #84

Warren has a say in this and I think if selected, Warren will say no. notadmblnd May 2016 #79

If... Mike Nelson May 2016 #82

Elizabeth Warren 3hummingbirds May 2016 #88

Maybe while she's over in the Republican Donor Waiting Room libdem4life May 2016 #90

So...Hillary would choose her polar opposite? Sure...makes sense... lagomorph777 May 2016 #95

Warren isn't that stupid but Clinton is that desperate Ferd Berfel May 2016 #100

To unite the party PATRICK May 2016 #108

VP is a 'shut up and do as you're told' position Ferd Berfel May 2016 #114

HRC will not offer it, if she did, EW would not accept. Take it to the bank. Hiraeth May 2016 #112

I'd say . . . A FEW Democrats MIGHT see Hillary-Warren as a dream ticket pdsimdars May 2016 #113

I'm a Democrat and that is not my dream ticket. Punkingal May 2016 #116