2016 Postmortem

Aerows

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49. Since when it is the fault of voters

Tue May 10, 2016, 04:49 PM

May 2016

if there is an unappealing candidate and voters don't vote for them?

If Hillary Clinton can't get cross-over Republican votes, that's Hillary's fault. President Obama got some, Bill got a bunch of them.

If Hillary Clinton can't get Independent votes, that's Hillary's fault. President Obama got some, Bill got a bunch of them.

If Hillary Clinton can't get Democratic votes, that's Hillary's fault.

Blaming voters who don't vote for a candidate is like blaming buyers because they didn't buy new Coke. Was it the fault of the buyers because they didn't buy it, or was there another problem that didn't involve, marketing, advertising and hype?

You can market, advertise and outreach all day long, but if your product is unsuccessful, it might just be the product.

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If Hillary loses to trump, it's all on her and her campaign. It won't be my fault [View all] cali May 2016 OP

Ok. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #1

Everyone here was going to blame you, so BeyondGeography May 2016 #2

I know you are trying to be sarcastic, bvar22 May 2016 #25

If they haven't gotten the message by now, I doubt they ever will. You are absolutely correct. nt silvershadow May 2016 #26

The are chomping at the bit Aerows May 2016 #32

Bwahahahaha!!!! JoePhilly May 2016 #35

Good for you jehop61 May 2016 #3

Noted griffi94 May 2016 #4

I agree but boy howdy will we get the blame. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #5

The hell I will. Aerows May 2016 #38

You're awesome! Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #42

Anyone blames me for Princess Weathervane's loss... Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #108

My thoughts exactly cali. litlbilly May 2016 #6

Hillary is going to kick Trumps butt... asuhornets May 2016 #7

Ok. LexVegas May 2016 #8

Sounds good. NCTraveler May 2016 #9

+1 Buzz Clik May 2016 #17

Oh really? shawn703 May 2016 #30

So... my post about HRC's supporters somehow made you think of a call ... Buzz Clik May 2016 #48

What's your argument? shawn703 May 2016 #53

That you can't stay on topic. Buzz Clik May 2016 #57

Looks like a 'let it go' situation :-) RiverNoord May 2016 #61

I looked at it. RiverNoord May 2016 #56

We differ. Buzz Clik May 2016 #59

NADERITES!11!2 frylock May 2016 #43

+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #36

Bookmarked Logical May 2016 #76

Bookmarking your bookmark. NCTraveler May 2016 #105

It will be the fault of every person, or group that actively sought to sink Sanders campaign AgingAmerican May 2016 #10

It's with deep regret that I feel compelled to inform you that the world does not revolve around you Trust Buster May 2016 #11

And if Bernie loses to Hillary whose fault is it? JaneyVee May 2016 #12

I just made a similar post (reply, not OP) on another thread. I guess the polls showing her merrily May 2016 #13

Yeah... ReRe May 2016 #14

"She's already won. But if she loses it's not her fault." Fuck that shit. CentralCoaster May 2016 #15

As if anyone thought you could possibly play a role. Buzz Clik May 2016 #16

I know, right? NurseJackie May 2016 #19

Oh my, an opinion was thought out and expressed in some detail. libdem4life May 2016 #113

Cool story, bro. nt onehandle May 2016 #18

Honey, you're not responsible for any failures or successes. The Second Stone May 2016 #20

Oh pumpkin, your words are just so devastating. cali May 2016 #22

One hundred eleven thousand posts later The Second Stone May 2016 #70

The Clinton followers own the decision to either lose to Sanders or Trump. They are choosing rhett o rick May 2016 #21

There's a large mirror that's got your name on it. nt kstewart33 May 2016 #65

Exactly this. Puglover May 2016 #23

It's quite simple: if trump wins the election the blame will belong to those who did not do the most onenote May 2016 #24

Voice of reason tonyt53 May 2016 #27

I dunno. Sounds more like voice of treason to me when you look at the KPN May 2016 #41

If anyone can explain what your post means, I'd be most grateful. onenote May 2016 #46

You hurt my feelings! KPN May 2016 #50

Could you provide some substance to this line of poop? libdem4life May 2016 #112

No, blame will fall on the Party and its candidate. A Party KPN May 2016 #37

Since when it is the fault of voters Aerows May 2016 #49

^^This^^ panader0 May 2016 #58

Blaming voters who don't vote for a candidate is like blaming buyers cause they didn't buy new Coke onenote May 2016 #60

If the choice is between arsenic and drain cleaner A Little Weird May 2016 #69

Maybe that's how you see the choice onenote May 2016 #84

Oh I much prefer Clinton over Trump A Little Weird May 2016 #86

and again, that is how you see it. onenote May 2016 #87

I have never claimed to be everyone A Little Weird May 2016 #88

Nope. But I'm not the one making declarations about "we" being fucked onenote May 2016 #90

In my opinion A Little Weird May 2016 #91

Yep Bernie supporters choices are all about Me Me Me lostnfound May 2016 #109

If people don't buy it Aerows May 2016 #75

Some of the blame WILL fall on the shoulders of those... bvar22 May 2016 #121

C'mon Op, eat that shit sandwich Rass May 2016 #28

Atta girl! Mo Do and Saint Ralph said the same thing in 2000. Vogon_Glory May 2016 #29

Being silly enough to blame Gore's loss on Nader gets you an immediate place on the ignore list. Maedhros May 2016 #77

Fair Enough, I won't miss Ayatollah Ralph's acolytes either n/t Vogon_Glory May 2016 #107

My sentiments exactly cali. Well said. KPN May 2016 #31

Your supposed to keep saying BS is winning!.. dubyadiprecession May 2016 #33

Nah. They'll blame the Green candidate in a close swing state loss. PDittie May 2016 #34

Oh the drama. JoePhilly May 2016 #39

It's funny to see all the conservatives here laughing at this notion.. frylock May 2016 #40

You stay home it is YOUR fault beachbumbob May 2016 #44

That edict would apply PDittie May 2016 #55

So you'd rather those sanders supporters in West Virginia lostnfound May 2016 #110

If you truly want to be irrelevant, I hope you get your wish. randome May 2016 #45

If Hillary loses jamese777 May 2016 #47

If you choose to not vote, or vote for non viable candidates, I am afraid it will be your fault. synergie May 2016 #51

Amen to that. Punkingal May 2016 #52

How can it be Sanders supporters faults? Shadowflash May 2016 #54

By that "logic?" jamese777 May 2016 #66

I won't blame Sanders, because he will endorse Hillary and campaign for her, Nye Bevan May 2016 #62

Yes against Trump ablamj May 2016 #72

If his supporters respect him so little that they will ignore his recommendation on who to vote for, Nye Bevan May 2016 #73

It says we can think ablamj May 2016 #74

Actually, it would say he lacks leadership qualities onenote May 2016 #93

it says nothing about ablamj May 2016 #98

No person living or dead other than Jesus Christ has such a level of influence on me TheKentuckian May 2016 #104

If your name isn't God then I don't give a solitary fuck about who someone tells TheKentuckian May 2016 #103

If Clinton loses, it will be because people handed the election to Trump. kstewart33 May 2016 #63

^^^This. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #92

Noted, cali is not at fault. Are you done now? nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #64

Sounds good to me. I doubt she'll lose to Trump though. beaglelover May 2016 #67

The Hillarybots, at least the ones here, have been trying very hard SheilaT May 2016 #68

And we have been trying to warn them with FACTS on ISSUES, but they will not engage pdsimdars May 2016 #71

^ This here. +1000 bvf May 2016 #78

^== Nails it. nt IdaBriggs May 2016 #111

As always, crickets. Facts just go the way of Bubble Politics. libdem4life May 2016 #117

It will be your fault Renew Deal May 2016 #79

Yep. If she can't beat the likes of Trump that's on her. CharlotteVale May 2016 #80

It's too late. They're already inoculating themselves ... RufusTFirefly May 2016 #81

That's right. "Give her 8-10 years until she can get her true progressive side warmed up". GoneFishin May 2016 #85

At this point, it's not a question of whether, it's by how big a margin. ucrdem May 2016 #82

It could be Nader all over again creeksneakers2 May 2016 #83

It's a myth that Nader cost Gore the election. That's been thoroughly debunked. riderinthestorm May 2016 #94

I've heard all that countless times creeksneakers2 May 2016 #96

Okie dokie Stuckinthebush May 2016 #89

Gore picked a piece of dogshit for VP. JEB May 2016 #95

Hillary is responsible for her own problems. senz May 2016 #97

Big K&R!! dana_b May 2016 #99

Well, the same thing could be said about why Bernie is losing to Hillary. all american girl May 2016 #100

If Clinton (or Sanders) loses. Bad Dog May 2016 #101

Spot on Depaysement May 2016 #102

Amen. RiverLover May 2016 #106

Tough to be a household name and win against an unknown. Not. libdem4life May 2016 #116

Correct (nt) bigwillq May 2016 #114

That would be America's fault, not Clinton's. Orsino May 2016 #115

Justify voting for Trump however you want, but you those who... themaguffin May 2016 #118

You are correct, the ramblings posted in GD-Pee have ZERO impact on the election snooper2 May 2016 #119

She also chose to turn the Clinton Foundation into a pay to play slush & influence fund. ny mhatrw May 2016 #120