2016 Postmortem

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5. Crosstabs are bad

Reply to Playinghardball (Original post)

Tue May 10, 2016, 05:07 PM

May 2016

QP has a habit of overestimating the white vote, and these suggest that, for the first time in three decades, the whites would increase their share of the vote.

Ideologically, I'd love to see Sanders win. I'm not fond of Clinton, but bad polls and Bernie doing well because he's effectively Generic Democrat to the wider public, the people who for whatever reason cannot muster any interest until November looks, don't serve as a good indicator of how he's going to fare when the Republicans start unleashing their brand of "truth" about him in a general election campaign.

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The latest Quinnipiac poll is everything we've been waiting for! [View all] Playinghardball May 2016 OP

Too bad he can't beat Hillary Gomez163 May 2016 #1

enjoy President Trump timmymoff May 2016 #7

He would be dead meat in the general election. Gomez163 May 2016 #9

She is dead meat timmymoff May 2016 #21

She has the most votes of any primary candidate, is beating Sanders by 3.5 million votes Gomez163 May 2016 #23

yup timmymoff May 2016 #26

They just don't get it. AZ Mike May 2016 #36

Most of them kaleckim May 2016 #53

Fuck 'em. Some damage can't be reversed. They will have to live with the consequences of their blind GoneFishin May 2016 #56

How many open primaries has Hillary won, you ask? 13 open primaries lunamagica May 2016 #67

Bernie gets 25% of the Republican Vote in Vermont. floppyboo May 2016 #43

What nonsense kaleckim May 2016 #52

The red baiting has worked nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #75

I get what you're saying kaleckim May 2016 #79

The example I gave you was not precisely young nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #80

nobody is afraid of red scare any more. grasswire May 2016 #76

+1000 n/t livetohike May 2016 #12

He can't beat the DNC and the Establishment. libdem4life May 2016 #28

He is outraising them outspending them and they still vote for Hillary. Gomez163 May 2016 #29

He's not a household name, duh. And, yes he has to continue the momentum. libdem4life May 2016 #37

Its a shame you have to resort to insults and can't back up your ideas with facts Gomez163 May 2016 #42

Dogfood in politics? Enough Said. That's just disgusting. libdem4life May 2016 #46

Keep selling that malarkey timmymoff May 2016 #39

Outraising Yes!!! Lot's of non-reg real dems love him! Outspending? You are kidding right? floppyboo May 2016 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #54

Sanders has done suprisingly well considering how undemocratic this primary is. That Guy 888 May 2016 #77

Exactly. Without the cheating and deck-stacking by the entire DNC machine Bernie would have easily GoneFishin May 2016 #58

Which says tons about people like yourself kaleckim May 2016 #51

Hillary only won lancer78 May 2016 #68

What do you mean the "pragmatic African American vote"? kaleckim May 2016 #70

African American voters lancer78 May 2016 #73

Unfortunately for you... JaneyVee May 2016 #2

Then why does 538 grade them higher? basselope May 2016 #10

Congrats on the 2 min post. Do you guys have a special app that allows you to lock in the rhett o rick May 2016 #18

FWIW, 538 is lousy this year. hellofromreddit May 2016 #32

I wasn't aware of the anticipation. NCTraveler May 2016 #3

If only he was just good enough to defeat Hillary. But he isn't. So he won't be the nominee... NurseJackie May 2016 #4

Strange way to look at things, considering timmymoff May 2016 #27

The shame will be the next 4 years. Barack_America May 2016 #45

To be fair, it could be HRH with Impeachment papers on Day 2. libdem4life May 2016 #47

Yep, that's the end game for the Hillary fanatics. BillZBubb May 2016 #65

Crosstabs are bad Station to Station May 2016 #5

But Bernie isn't running against Trump griffi94 May 2016 #6

Which still means nothing mythology May 2016 #8

This poll significantly over-sampled white voters and under-sampled Black voters; but, I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #11

That explains everything. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #14

Ow! Ow! Ow! TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #13

This would be SUPER important if Proud Public Servant May 2016 #15

proud to put you on ignore. litlbilly May 2016 #41

he keeps winning, he has better poll numbers dana_b May 2016 #16

You forgot to put these up. Eko May 2016 #17

LOL...Quinnipiac that oversamples white voters nt UMTerp01 May 2016 #19

Nate Silver rips Trump-Clinton polls in 8-part Twitter rant brooklynite May 2016 #20

Ha..already blaming Sanders folk. Nothing about oh, say the FBI, libdem4life May 2016 #30

^lol^ I like bad puns! floppyboo May 2016 #44

In that poll, what do you think Sanders' diehards said when asked Clinton vs. Trump? Hoyt May 2016 #22

My god kaleckim May 2016 #59

I do realize how naive many are, and that when Clinton is officially Hoyt May 2016 #71

Feel the Bern! ViseGrip May 2016 #24

Sanders has not been attacked. It's that simple. nt ecstatic May 2016 #25

in your dreams. pdsimdars May 2016 #34

Yes, he has so many years of scandals. Um, he has decades of libdem4life May 2016 #35

Yes. We can start with the VA, Lockheed Martin, and gun lobby ecstatic May 2016 #49

You run with that. libdem4life May 2016 #55

No need. He'll be a distant memory in a couple weeks. nt ecstatic May 2016 #63

How about video with Bernie promising to raise taxes on the middle class redstateblues May 2016 #61

That's because he's clean. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #38

?! kaleckim May 2016 #62

Bernie has not been vetted by the general public. These polls mean nothing at this point. beaglelover May 2016 #31

Quinnipiac has been off apcalc May 2016 #33

The rust belt is going to be a challenge with Clinton Ash_F May 2016 #40

That's not really a battle Sanders could win vs. Trump imo ContinentalOp May 2016 #69

Quinnipiac..lol. Ohioblue22 May 2016 #48

Another polling company under the bus. tabasco May 2016 #60

If the Rs had 5 months to run the video of bernie promising to raise taxes on the middle class redstateblues May 2016 #57

Or the "breadlines are really a good thing" video. NuclearDem May 2016 #64

Fine, but Bernie lost to both of them on March 16. ucrdem May 2016 #66

More polls, please! (Context.) CobaltBlue May 2016 #72

K & R AzDar May 2016 #74

K&R. nt silvershadow May 2016 #78