2016 Postmortem

LisaM

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168. They need to upgrade their headline.

Tue May 10, 2016, 06:26 PM

May 2016

It's being interpreted many different ways.

I spend time in the San Juan Island, which is a place that has voted for both Ross Perot and Ralph Nader (and for the caucuses this year, completely predictably went for Sanders). I wouldn't be surprised if they went for John Anderson in 1980, who knows? They love the outsider, too, easy enough for them in their mostly white homogenous bubble.

I find that to be an extraordinary way to approach things and the anti-establishment elected officials from the Tea Party have caused an amazing amount of harm in a short time. But anyone who thinks Sanders or Trump is offering remotely the same worldview just because they're seen as political outsiders (despite Sanders being a career politician) might want to consider taking a more nuanced view of the world.

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WV Exit Polls: 44% of Sanders voters are Trump supporters [View all] Renew Deal May 2016 OP

Yep. That is what it has come to. tonyt53 May 2016 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #301

That's WV. What about DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND? Hortensis May 2016 #339

If you are a Bernie supporter who decides to support trump you were bullshitting all along UMTerp01 May 2016 #2

Other way round, I think. LisaM May 2016 #6

Nope. Cruz is still pushing for votes in W. Va. and is calling his delegates to tell them Fawke Em May 2016 #27

Nothing is what it seems this election - except Bernie. Baobab May 2016 #86

Until you cross reference his rhetoric and his records, and you realize he is not what synergie May 2016 #308

sorry 'synergie', not buying what your selling. Baobab May 2016 #310

Agreed. That is the way I interpreted the results as well. politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #40

Except that republicans cannot vote in the democratic primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #100

They are semi-closed. Voters are not required to register with a party. PeaceNikki May 2016 #189

Unless you can show Rs did travel back to April 19 after leaniing their race was over nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #192

Lol, it's Operation Chaos, not a Sanders mandate. PeaceNikki May 2016 #193

So Republicans, and Rush Limbaugh discovered time travel? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #196

Lol, that's adorable. PeaceNikki May 2016 #197

I am sure it is nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #199

Voters are not required to register with a party and can pick either ballot. PeaceNikki May 2016 #200

Voters are doing the independent registration nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #203

That non D or R registration is closer to 25% now. PeaceNikki May 2016 #209

Ok so you are still at least 20 percent nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #211

I think idiots will vote for Trump. And, honestly, anyone who claims to be a Democrat and won't vote PeaceNikki May 2016 #212

Well you might have that opinion nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #215

lolok PeaceNikki May 2016 #216

Great research Ace nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #219

Oh and ace here are the actual numbers nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #240

That's four years old. Here are the April 2016 numbers PeaceNikki May 2016 #242

Whatever ace, they still reveal a large number of fucking CONSERVADEMS nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #246

I think your keyboard is all fucked up. PeaceNikki May 2016 #247

Nope, but talking normally does not work nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #248

Protip: you are typing, not talking PeaceNikki May 2016 #251

Pro tip, you still cannot accept that there are democrats who will NOT vote for HRC nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #252

Or actually paying attention. Fawke Em May 2016 #276

No, I stand by my comment. Narcissistic, arrogant, privileged fools. PeaceNikki May 2016 #281

No, they can't. Learn Google, dear. Fawke Em May 2016 #269

I'm not your "dear". PeaceNikki May 2016 #283

Fine. I'm not your "insane" person coz I think Hillary is as bad as Trump. Fawke Em May 2016 #309

ALL polls show Bernie beats Trump by far greater margins than Hillary. senz May 2016 #142

Wrong, this is a modified open primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #66

But independents can vote for either, so presumably Trump independents are crossing over LisaM May 2016 #76

Or independents who like Sanders nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #80

I'm simply talking about this headline, which is being interpreted a few different ways LisaM May 2016 #94

No, they show that they will vote for Trump nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #98

I understand that registered Republicans cannot vote in the Democratic primary in WV LisaM May 2016 #107

I have talked to a few and I do get it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #118

They need to upgrade their headline. LisaM May 2016 #168

That headline is purposeful nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #175

CBS has Clinton ahead 51/33 with Independents. TwilightZone May 2016 #237

I stand by what I said. nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #239

Then you're living in a bubble. Fawke Em May 2016 #278

I so appreciate your even-handed comments and statements of someone libdem4life May 2016 #114

Well I shouyd be writing candidate quetionaires nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #122

Yep. puffy socks May 2016 #79

Or maybe they want to vote for an honest politician that is not in the pocket of the big money? -none May 2016 #96

mmm hmmm... puffy socks May 2016 #108

Why should she not? Is she just an extension of her husband resorting libdem4life May 2016 #146

You sure as hell do not sound like a Democrat to me. senz May 2016 #155

I want a better healthcare system fazing out the old and providing the new . puffy socks May 2016 #165

So why do you laugh at social progams paid for by the federal govt? senz May 2016 #174

Social democracy = Mixed economy nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #179

It's incredible that they don't know that. nt senz May 2016 #194

No, it is not incredible when you learn the poor education in history, politics and nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #249

You mean DEMOCRATS voting for Sanders who will vote for Trump nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #180

No. puffy socks May 2016 #186

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #201

Read my post puffy socks May 2016 #207

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #208

You have no idea what you're talking about. puffy socks May 2016 #218

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #221

It's literally been explained to you in detail . Its really simple . If you can't grasp puffy socks May 2016 #229

So did they invent time travel? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #234

Try reading comp next time nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #232

Exactly. Andy823 May 2016 #87

I would never vote for Trump CoffeeCat May 2016 #190

That was a Reuters story nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #300

This is why I am against open primaries. hrmjustin May 2016 #3

Exactly. LisaM May 2016 #5

You and me both. THIS is what ratfucking is all about. Hekate May 2016 #26

Republicans cannot vote in the Democratic primary. Only registered Dems and unaffiliated. Only 19% Luminous Animal May 2016 #33

They don't want to understand, Luminous. Fawke Em May 2016 #45

The new tinfoil hat fashions: New for Spring 2016! bvf May 2016 #119

Yeah kaleckim May 2016 #38

This taxpayer thing is really moot RockaFowler May 2016 #103

Parties are considered private organiztions nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #314

Yup. Agschmid May 2016 #42

And instead of Bernie spinning it the way that it is, people trying to screw with the Dem Primary politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #46

HMMM republicans are not voting in this primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #141

If you make excuses if Bernie wins you, are doing what Bernie supporters get accused of Armstead May 2016 #78

Armstead, this isn't an excuse. kstewart33 May 2016 #89

You are making assumptions that are not necessarily true Armstead May 2016 #97

Hmm having talked to a few independent voterss nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #143

You can provide evidence of this then? frylock May 2016 #241

Democrats in WV are a different breed in the first place.... AZ Mike May 2016 #92

It's not an open primary. panader0 May 2016 #101

We've been telling you about this -- some Bernie supporters cant vote for HRC. aikoaiko May 2016 #116

Given both Clinton and Sanders want to get rid of coal... Fresh_Start May 2016 #4

So they should be voting in their own primary. LisaM May 2016 #10

exactly...there is no need to vote in the GOP primary nt Fresh_Start May 2016 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #61

This is how I see it, as well. It's that darn unfavorability rating. libdem4life May 2016 #134

So they knew back on April 19 that the Republican race would be over? Fawke Em May 2016 #49

Registered Republicans are not allowed to vote in the Dem primary. Only Dems and unafilliated. Luminous Animal May 2016 #57

But the voters are not required to register with a party at all. PeaceNikki May 2016 #198

MSNBC is in the tank for HIllary AgingAmerican May 2016 #7

No Doubt About It! KoKo May 2016 #68

With that kind of crossover it should be a great night for Bernie Lucinda May 2016 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 May 2016 #9

Repeating ignorance doesn't make it wisdom. HooptieWagon May 2016 #13

Most Hillary supporting superdelegates are gidbits, so you got that. CentralCoaster May 2016 #11

He's going to Burlington Renew Deal May 2016 #30

Beats prison. CentralCoaster May 2016 #35

More Bernie supporter fantasies. Renew Deal May 2016 #39

No the difference is... pinebox May 2016 #51

No he's gpoing back to DC one way or the other Armstead May 2016 #81

Open primaries are so fair, huh? CrowCityDem May 2016 #12

Awwwww..but cross-party voting not allowed Armstead May 2016 #82

It's all about JOBS Rass May 2016 #14

Yep, if we quit trading with foreign countries, traded among ourselves, we'd have a few more jobs -- Hoyt May 2016 #22

Please stop oversimplifying -- or at least look at the right simplification Armstead May 2016 #90

Depends on what you mean sucks for Americans. All I know is almost every nation begs to be part of Hoyt May 2016 #125

You mean the neo liberal elites nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #169

Sanders is the easiest target in a general election...as right wing media beachbumbob May 2016 #15

It doesn't matter... dubyadiprecession May 2016 #16

Apparently you haven't seen the latest polling. Fawke Em May 2016 #31

One angry, red-faced shouting old man okasha May 2016 #18

That me me LOL. Thanks!!! boston bean May 2016 #32

oh brother,wanting to help people is a vanity.I'll be danged. wendylaroux May 2016 #36

Vanity campaign? danimich1 May 2016 #52

Bernie is only still around because of ego. Renew Deal May 2016 #133

LMAO nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #139

Hillary should have dropped out for the same reason. Renew Deal May 2016 #144

She won nothing? really nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #145

What did she win? Respect and admiration? Renew Deal May 2016 #149

You might have forgotten already, but she did nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #153

You're not willing to state your claim. Renew Deal May 2016 #157

The fact that you need to ask is gobsmacking indeed, or a quantum phenomena nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal May 2016 #292

She had a tremendous amount of influence. Renew Deal May 2016 #293

I am not, just responding in kind nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #299

Well I can say that about the other candidate by the way nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #58

One rich, mean, self-entitled lady RobertEarl May 2016 #71

One angry, red-faced shouting old lady. frylock May 2016 #244

Well now I won't be able to sleep tonight Matt_in_STL May 2016 #255

Sorry 'bout that. frylock May 2016 #256

There's something I've been wondering about, okasha May 2016 #262

This is 'shopped? Where's the original? frylock May 2016 #264

You don't need the original okasha May 2016 #271

I had no idea it had been altered. How about these? frylock May 2016 #279

It is NORMAL for politicians to sometimes be angry Haveadream May 2016 #323

I wasn't the one making the argument. frylock May 2016 #330

I figured this would happen since R's no longer need to vote Sheepshank May 2016 #19

Except ace they are not voting in your precious primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #223

Rude, condescending and demeaning....typical Sheepshank May 2016 #265

Alas factual nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #266

You attacked me without my ever speaking to you on this thread Sheepshank May 2016 #311

Alas I am not a bernie supporter nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #312

You start out with an insult....anything you say after that is lost Sheepshank May 2016 #315

Poor you nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #316

Persist in insulting...how noble of you Sheepshank May 2016 #317

Then may i sugest you ignore them? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #318

as if you have any standing whatsoever to tell me what I should do Sheepshank May 2016 #324

And most of them are registered Democrats. Luminous Animal May 2016 #20

You can't be surprised at this knowing the way Trump supporters view Hillary floppyboo May 2016 #21

Is anybody remotely surprised ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #23

Many HRC suppprters are nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #224

No. That's NOT what that meant. Fawke Em May 2016 #24

I didn't get it at first, from the wording of the OP, but this is way more dire for the Hills! floppyboo May 2016 #110

Of course. That's what happens with open primaries when the other side isn't contested NT Adrahil May 2016 #25

Especially when the primary is NOT open to Repubiicans nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #225

That's only an indication of how much they dislike Hillary. Vinca May 2016 #28

This is not open to republicans nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #226

You change your party affiliation, vote, then change it back. Vinca May 2016 #319

The deadline was April 19, so unless republicans have invented time travel... nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #338

April 19 isn't that long ago. Who knows what their desired result might be. Vinca May 2016 #344

When did Cruz suspend? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #345

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily May 2016 #29

BECAUSE TRUMP IS THE ALREADY THE NOMINEE. JaneyVee May 2016 #34

It's not an open primary TSIAS May 2016 #43

Nope, no Republicans are voting today for Sanders nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #70

Ding Ding Ding Bobbie Jo May 2016 #104

Except that republicans are not voting in this primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #130

I don't give a shit if they're Pat Paulson supporters,I'll take em. wendylaroux May 2016 #37

Here's a visual of the poll. Check out the "neither" part. Fawke Em May 2016 #41

Question TSIAS May 2016 #47

correct, on both counts nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #59

Of course, if Sanders were the nominee, they'd vote for him. dchill May 2016 #69

Sanders has consistently done best in areas where frazzled May 2016 #44

Yep. Open primaries allow Republicans to deliberately vote for the weakest Democrat, Nye Bevan May 2016 #48

Except that's not the case in West Virginia. Fawke Em May 2016 #53

Except Republicans are not mucking up your election nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #60

They simply can't accept that Independents aren't keen on Clinton. Fawke Em May 2016 #72

I know, the same situation in CA nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #74

And if Hillary was a popular candidate that people actually wanted and open primaries benefited -none May 2016 #171

This is why the remaining open primary results will be tainted; Trump ratfuckery Tarc May 2016 #50

Except no republicans are voting in your primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #63

Except you can't, or chose not to, read the OP Tarc May 2016 #77

Except that the state runs a MODIFIED PRIMARY SYSTEM nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #83

"...allow unaffiliated voters to vote in their primaries" Tarc May 2016 #164

yes 19 percent of the electorate nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #166

Keep trying... Tarc May 2016 #170

Actually I think you are now trying to bait nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #176

Sorry, I forgot about you last night :) Tarc May 2016 #322

Sanders has lost Demsrule86 May 2016 #245

Ah of course, the most trusted source of news nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #54

Ah, for once, exit polls finally matter on DU. LOL! However, one has to wonder merrily May 2016 #55

The point is to prolong the primary and hurt the Democratic Party. Renew Deal May 2016 #121

Sez you. Sanders has already says he's in it to the end. So again, there's no point to merrily May 2016 #132

Not only that, there is no cross over voting in VA nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #158

lol. And they wonder why some of us prefer closed primaries? ecstatic May 2016 #56

I agree with you, as long as state parties pay for the whole thing nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #62

Operation :Clinton Excuses basselope May 2016 #64

Here you go Renew Deal May 2016 #67

So EXACTLY what I said it was. basselope May 2016 #85

No it isn't Renew Deal May 2016 #105

That it isn't trump supporters crossing the aisle. basselope May 2016 #109

Right they are Trump supporters choosing Bernie Renew Deal May 2016 #113

No, they are Sanders supporters. basselope May 2016 #161

Today they are Sanders supporters Renew Deal May 2016 #167

Much more than you think. basselope May 2016 #185

there are probably two main types AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #204

correct nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #227

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #233

Because we all need a hobby nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #236

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #243

^ This AzDar May 2016 #128

They weren't asked their first choice. Eric J in MN May 2016 #65

The guy down the hall (from WV) says that many of his repub friends are trying to anotherproletariat May 2016 #73

Well if they are republians they are lying nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #75

Good point...I'll ask him! nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #84

Why am I not surprised? THe extremes are really populated by the same (type of) people who r quite Bill USA May 2016 #88

I say it's BS. A "setup" for the upcoming push NorthCarolina May 2016 #91

Amd I will push for the state parties to pay for each and all of them nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #95

Ahhhh, it's a years long conspiracy to close the primaries Renew Deal May 2016 #117

ominous if HRC is nominee; this reported in other states, by union rank & file amborin May 2016 #93

Wish the OP was more honest here... basselope May 2016 #99

You just said the same thing I said. Renew Deal May 2016 #111

No, that's not what I said... basselope May 2016 #159

People that vote for Trump are Trump supporters. Renew Deal May 2016 #162

Not according to what most people here say. basselope May 2016 #181

Oh so now Camp Weathervane ibegurpard May 2016 #102

If you remember, it was always the more conspiratorial types in Sanders camp that had problems Renew Deal May 2016 #106

No, 100% of them are for Sanders. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #112

44% of Sanders voters in WV are a Trump supporters Renew Deal May 2016 #115

No. They are independent Sanders supporters who won't vote for Clinton. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #120

Punishment has nothing to do with anything Renew Deal May 2016 #126

Only if the choice is Trump v Clinton. bunnies May 2016 #123

True Renew Deal May 2016 #127

I wish you'd make up your mind. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #131

Neither? Renew Deal May 2016 #138

And at least 20 percent are democrats, if not higher nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #253

Anti-establishment would be my guess. bunnies May 2016 #135

And you are correct nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #136

I'm not buying the conspiracy theories. bunnies May 2016 #152

Well that was a lovely Rush Limbaugh theory nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #184

Was it really to vote for HRC? bunnies May 2016 #187

Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #191

I don't mind the source. bunnies May 2016 #202

Well I doubt it was ever done nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #205

there are other motivations Renew Deal May 2016 #140

I suppose it could be some of that. bunnies May 2016 #147

Because now their race is wrapped up. Renew Deal May 2016 #150

All 44% though? nt bunnies May 2016 #160

But unless they got time travel technology, they did not re-register on the 19 of April nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #228

19 percent of those voters are independent voters, in the total voter pool nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #151

As you know, WV is full of DINO's Renew Deal May 2016 #154

Whatever you call them, they are DEMOCRATS nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #156

Young white guys and their elders that do not like certain groups, just sayin'. I hear ya. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #124

As of this moment, and from now on, the leader of the "Not Hillary" Party is Donald Trump. baldguy May 2016 #129

There are two people running against Hillary Renew Deal May 2016 #148

Yep. baldguy May 2016 #172

Hillary and Trump are closer to each other than to Bernie. senz May 2016 #188

You guys have to make up your minds on that one Renew Deal May 2016 #195

Because it's all about Hillary! There's nobody else! senz May 2016 #183

She's being double-teamed by Trump and Sanders - and she's still winning. baldguy May 2016 #206

LIKEWISE, anyone who doesn't want Bernie gives aid to Trump. senz May 2016 #214

Except - Sanders **IS NOT WINNING!** baldguy May 2016 #220

BALONEY! Lodestar May 2016 #137

Horseshoe theory workinclasszero May 2016 #173

Horsecrap theory. frylock May 2016 #250

Yeah the side that gets all its conspiracy theories from The Blaze, freerepublic, redstate, breitbart workinclasszero May 2016 #267

Did you read that on Brock Nation Review? frylock May 2016 #268

Nope right here on "Democratic" Underground workinclasszero May 2016 #270

So Sanders is a RW politician? I am sure that will come as a surprise to the Senator nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #313

Don't put words in my mouth I never said workinclasszero May 2016 #321

Nah you said this was also a right wing hate site nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #334

Good lord. DCBob May 2016 #177

They want coal production. Aren't open primaries just lovely ? Trust Buster May 2016 #182

It is not open nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #222

+1 leeroysphitz May 2016 #320

Independents are voting in the Democratic primary TexasTowelie May 2016 #210

What are the excuses gonna be when she loses Oregon? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #213

And if she loses CA nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #230

They'll want to shut down the Communist USPS. frylock May 2016 #259

Poll: Despite Bernie Sanders' Crowds, Hillary Clinton Ahead In Oregon-48 to 33 riversedge May 2016 #303

We'll see! Warren DeMontague May 2016 #305

I hope she wins but I'm only cautiously optimistic Haveadream May 2016 #325

I think there are other factors beyond diversity and open/closed primaries, myself. Like Geography. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #347

So, Trump won both primaries. TwilightZone May 2016 #217

That, and the number of Conservative Democrats who signaled they will vote Trump in November nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #231

Source? TwilightZone May 2016 #235

Quite simple nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #238

I agree with you Haveadream May 2016 #337

Open Primaries Versus Closed Primaries TomCADem May 2016 #254

It isn't an open primary, but semi-open. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #257

In 2012, Most Independents Were Republican Leaning, Tea Partiers... TomCADem May 2016 #261

Anybody but Clinton for so many then, right? nt. polly7 May 2016 #258

What about yourself? Renew Deal May 2016 #273

What about yourself? nt. polly7 May 2016 #274

I prefer Clinton over Trump. Renew Deal May 2016 #275

I don't vote there, but have quite a few family who do - they prefer Sanders. nt. polly7 May 2016 #277

What about you? Renew Deal May 2016 #280

I SAID - the voters there must prefer 'anybody but Clinton'. polly7 May 2016 #282

Ok. I accept that. Renew Deal May 2016 #284

I prefer Sanders. nt. polly7 May 2016 #285

Is there any reason to believe you prefer Clinton to Trump? Renew Deal May 2016 #288

I never mentioned Trump. Wtf are you trying for? nt. polly7 May 2016 #290

You said "Anybody but Clinton" Renew Deal May 2016 #294

I'm saying that voters there apparently believe it. Can you not read? nt. polly7 May 2016 #295

And I am asking if you agree with those voters. Renew Deal May 2016 #296

I don't vote there. Get that??? I have family who do, they support Sanders. polly7 May 2016 #297

ABC frylock May 2016 #260

Do you stand by that? Renew Deal May 2016 #272

ABC is what it is. How I feel has no bearing. frylock May 2016 #286

Shame Renew Deal May 2016 #287

Okay. frylock May 2016 #289

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service eggplant May 2016 #298

Hmmmmmm ......... you were alerted on. polly7 May 2016 #302

Better luck next time, eh. frylock May 2016 #304

Record numbers switched to Republican this year in WV to vote for Trump. hollowdweller May 2016 #263

no surprise DrDan May 2016 #291

SHOCKING!!111 Im SHOCKeD!111one Number23 May 2016 #306

I predict that Hills will not take WV in November. ucrdem May 2016 #307

I'm a Sanders supporter who will never vote for Trump, Shadowflash May 2016 #326

Horse hockey apnu May 2016 #327

Haha! Yeah. Shadowflash May 2016 #328

We will indeed. apnu May 2016 #331

They are out there, if this will make you feel better, I actually talked to one who is firmly nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #332

Except that Trump is the definition of the establishment. apnu May 2016 #333

No he is not actually nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #335

Sorry you lost me at "ideology" apnu May 2016 #340

Wrong,he does have a clear ideology nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #341

OK then. You brought no analysis to your argument nor sources apnu May 2016 #342

I actually have spent the time doing this nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #343

Considering that we agree in some areas yet you insist i'm blind apnu May 2016 #346

Yes, half of West Virginia Democrats always vote Republican for President. ieoeja May 2016 #329

They are only Trump supporters if Clinton get the nomination. Otherwise, they are Sanders supporters mhatrw May 2016 #336