2016 Postmortem

nadinbrzezinski

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238. Quite simple

Tue May 10, 2016, 08:04 PM

May 2016

SOS numbers for decline to state voters is 18 percent, most recent numbers, from 2012

http://www.sos.wv.gov/elections/history/Pages/Voter_Registration_History.aspx

So it is math... 40 percent have signaled that they will cross for Trump, 40-18 gives me 22, and that is assuming every independent voter did a cast today for Sanders. So a more realistically number of conservadems is higher. It is like Florida in 2000 when tens of thousands of Conservative Democrats chose to vote for George Bush. Them are the breaks.

Keep hiding the head in the sand, and kicking on the voters that are obviously needed to win. Myself. this is a nasty signal of what is going to happen in the rust belt. Did I mention these are battleground states? I thought it would be relevant.

Myself, just taking notes.

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WV Exit Polls: 44% of Sanders voters are Trump supporters [View all] Renew Deal May 2016 OP

Yep. That is what it has come to. tonyt53 May 2016 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #301

That's WV. What about DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND? Hortensis May 2016 #339

If you are a Bernie supporter who decides to support trump you were bullshitting all along UMTerp01 May 2016 #2

Other way round, I think. LisaM May 2016 #6

Nope. Cruz is still pushing for votes in W. Va. and is calling his delegates to tell them Fawke Em May 2016 #27

Nothing is what it seems this election - except Bernie. Baobab May 2016 #86

Until you cross reference his rhetoric and his records, and you realize he is not what synergie May 2016 #308

sorry 'synergie', not buying what your selling. Baobab May 2016 #310

Agreed. That is the way I interpreted the results as well. politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #40

Except that republicans cannot vote in the democratic primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #100

They are semi-closed. Voters are not required to register with a party. PeaceNikki May 2016 #189

Unless you can show Rs did travel back to April 19 after leaniing their race was over nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #192

Lol, it's Operation Chaos, not a Sanders mandate. PeaceNikki May 2016 #193

So Republicans, and Rush Limbaugh discovered time travel? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #196

Lol, that's adorable. PeaceNikki May 2016 #197

I am sure it is nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #199

Voters are not required to register with a party and can pick either ballot. PeaceNikki May 2016 #200

Voters are doing the independent registration nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #203

That non D or R registration is closer to 25% now. PeaceNikki May 2016 #209

Ok so you are still at least 20 percent nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #211

I think idiots will vote for Trump. And, honestly, anyone who claims to be a Democrat and won't vote PeaceNikki May 2016 #212

Well you might have that opinion nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #215

lolok PeaceNikki May 2016 #216

Great research Ace nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #219

Oh and ace here are the actual numbers nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #240

That's four years old. Here are the April 2016 numbers PeaceNikki May 2016 #242

Whatever ace, they still reveal a large number of fucking CONSERVADEMS nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #246

I think your keyboard is all fucked up. PeaceNikki May 2016 #247

Nope, but talking normally does not work nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #248

Protip: you are typing, not talking PeaceNikki May 2016 #251

Pro tip, you still cannot accept that there are democrats who will NOT vote for HRC nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #252

Or actually paying attention. Fawke Em May 2016 #276

No, I stand by my comment. Narcissistic, arrogant, privileged fools. PeaceNikki May 2016 #281

No, they can't. Learn Google, dear. Fawke Em May 2016 #269

I'm not your "dear". PeaceNikki May 2016 #283

Fine. I'm not your "insane" person coz I think Hillary is as bad as Trump. Fawke Em May 2016 #309

ALL polls show Bernie beats Trump by far greater margins than Hillary. senz May 2016 #142

Wrong, this is a modified open primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #66

But independents can vote for either, so presumably Trump independents are crossing over LisaM May 2016 #76

Or independents who like Sanders nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #80

I'm simply talking about this headline, which is being interpreted a few different ways LisaM May 2016 #94

No, they show that they will vote for Trump nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #98

I understand that registered Republicans cannot vote in the Democratic primary in WV LisaM May 2016 #107

I have talked to a few and I do get it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #118

They need to upgrade their headline. LisaM May 2016 #168

That headline is purposeful nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #175

CBS has Clinton ahead 51/33 with Independents. TwilightZone May 2016 #237

I stand by what I said. nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #239

Then you're living in a bubble. Fawke Em May 2016 #278

I so appreciate your even-handed comments and statements of someone libdem4life May 2016 #114

Well I shouyd be writing candidate quetionaires nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #122

Yep. puffy socks May 2016 #79

Or maybe they want to vote for an honest politician that is not in the pocket of the big money? -none May 2016 #96

mmm hmmm... puffy socks May 2016 #108

Why should she not? Is she just an extension of her husband resorting libdem4life May 2016 #146

You sure as hell do not sound like a Democrat to me. senz May 2016 #155

I want a better healthcare system fazing out the old and providing the new . puffy socks May 2016 #165

So why do you laugh at social progams paid for by the federal govt? senz May 2016 #174

Social democracy = Mixed economy nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #179

It's incredible that they don't know that. nt senz May 2016 #194

No, it is not incredible when you learn the poor education in history, politics and nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #249

You mean DEMOCRATS voting for Sanders who will vote for Trump nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #180

No. puffy socks May 2016 #186

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #201

Read my post puffy socks May 2016 #207

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #208

You have no idea what you're talking about. puffy socks May 2016 #218

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #221

It's literally been explained to you in detail . Its really simple . If you can't grasp puffy socks May 2016 #229

So did they invent time travel? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #234

Try reading comp next time nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #232

Exactly. Andy823 May 2016 #87

I would never vote for Trump CoffeeCat May 2016 #190

That was a Reuters story nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #300

This is why I am against open primaries. hrmjustin May 2016 #3

Exactly. LisaM May 2016 #5

You and me both. THIS is what ratfucking is all about. Hekate May 2016 #26

Republicans cannot vote in the Democratic primary. Only registered Dems and unaffiliated. Only 19% Luminous Animal May 2016 #33

They don't want to understand, Luminous. Fawke Em May 2016 #45

The new tinfoil hat fashions: New for Spring 2016! bvf May 2016 #119

Yeah kaleckim May 2016 #38

This taxpayer thing is really moot RockaFowler May 2016 #103

Parties are considered private organiztions nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #314

Yup. Agschmid May 2016 #42

And instead of Bernie spinning it the way that it is, people trying to screw with the Dem Primary politicaljunkie41910 May 2016 #46

HMMM republicans are not voting in this primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #141

If you make excuses if Bernie wins you, are doing what Bernie supporters get accused of Armstead May 2016 #78

Armstead, this isn't an excuse. kstewart33 May 2016 #89

You are making assumptions that are not necessarily true Armstead May 2016 #97

Hmm having talked to a few independent voterss nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #143

You can provide evidence of this then? frylock May 2016 #241

Democrats in WV are a different breed in the first place.... AZ Mike May 2016 #92

It's not an open primary. panader0 May 2016 #101

We've been telling you about this -- some Bernie supporters cant vote for HRC. aikoaiko May 2016 #116

Given both Clinton and Sanders want to get rid of coal... Fresh_Start May 2016 #4

So they should be voting in their own primary. LisaM May 2016 #10

exactly...there is no need to vote in the GOP primary nt Fresh_Start May 2016 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #61

This is how I see it, as well. It's that darn unfavorability rating. libdem4life May 2016 #134

So they knew back on April 19 that the Republican race would be over? Fawke Em May 2016 #49

Registered Republicans are not allowed to vote in the Dem primary. Only Dems and unafilliated. Luminous Animal May 2016 #57

But the voters are not required to register with a party at all. PeaceNikki May 2016 #198

MSNBC is in the tank for HIllary AgingAmerican May 2016 #7

No Doubt About It! KoKo May 2016 #68

With that kind of crossover it should be a great night for Bernie Lucinda May 2016 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 May 2016 #9

Repeating ignorance doesn't make it wisdom. HooptieWagon May 2016 #13

Most Hillary supporting superdelegates are gidbits, so you got that. CentralCoaster May 2016 #11

He's going to Burlington Renew Deal May 2016 #30

Beats prison. CentralCoaster May 2016 #35

More Bernie supporter fantasies. Renew Deal May 2016 #39

No the difference is... pinebox May 2016 #51

No he's gpoing back to DC one way or the other Armstead May 2016 #81

Open primaries are so fair, huh? CrowCityDem May 2016 #12

Awwwww..but cross-party voting not allowed Armstead May 2016 #82

It's all about JOBS Rass May 2016 #14

Yep, if we quit trading with foreign countries, traded among ourselves, we'd have a few more jobs -- Hoyt May 2016 #22

Please stop oversimplifying -- or at least look at the right simplification Armstead May 2016 #90

Depends on what you mean sucks for Americans. All I know is almost every nation begs to be part of Hoyt May 2016 #125

You mean the neo liberal elites nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #169

Sanders is the easiest target in a general election...as right wing media beachbumbob May 2016 #15

It doesn't matter... dubyadiprecession May 2016 #16

Apparently you haven't seen the latest polling. Fawke Em May 2016 #31

One angry, red-faced shouting old man okasha May 2016 #18

That me me LOL. Thanks!!! boston bean May 2016 #32

oh brother,wanting to help people is a vanity.I'll be danged. wendylaroux May 2016 #36

Vanity campaign? danimich1 May 2016 #52

Bernie is only still around because of ego. Renew Deal May 2016 #133

LMAO nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #139

Hillary should have dropped out for the same reason. Renew Deal May 2016 #144

She won nothing? really nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #145

What did she win? Respect and admiration? Renew Deal May 2016 #149

You might have forgotten already, but she did nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #153

You're not willing to state your claim. Renew Deal May 2016 #157

The fact that you need to ask is gobsmacking indeed, or a quantum phenomena nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal May 2016 #292

She had a tremendous amount of influence. Renew Deal May 2016 #293

I am not, just responding in kind nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #299

Well I can say that about the other candidate by the way nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #58

One rich, mean, self-entitled lady RobertEarl May 2016 #71

One angry, red-faced shouting old lady. frylock May 2016 #244

Well now I won't be able to sleep tonight Matt_in_STL May 2016 #255

Sorry 'bout that. frylock May 2016 #256

There's something I've been wondering about, okasha May 2016 #262

This is 'shopped? Where's the original? frylock May 2016 #264

You don't need the original okasha May 2016 #271

I had no idea it had been altered. How about these? frylock May 2016 #279

It is NORMAL for politicians to sometimes be angry Haveadream May 2016 #323

I wasn't the one making the argument. frylock May 2016 #330

I figured this would happen since R's no longer need to vote Sheepshank May 2016 #19

Except ace they are not voting in your precious primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #223

Rude, condescending and demeaning....typical Sheepshank May 2016 #265

Alas factual nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #266

You attacked me without my ever speaking to you on this thread Sheepshank May 2016 #311

Alas I am not a bernie supporter nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #312

You start out with an insult....anything you say after that is lost Sheepshank May 2016 #315

Poor you nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #316

Persist in insulting...how noble of you Sheepshank May 2016 #317

Then may i sugest you ignore them? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #318

as if you have any standing whatsoever to tell me what I should do Sheepshank May 2016 #324

And most of them are registered Democrats. Luminous Animal May 2016 #20

You can't be surprised at this knowing the way Trump supporters view Hillary floppyboo May 2016 #21

Is anybody remotely surprised ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #23

Many HRC suppprters are nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #224

No. That's NOT what that meant. Fawke Em May 2016 #24

I didn't get it at first, from the wording of the OP, but this is way more dire for the Hills! floppyboo May 2016 #110

Of course. That's what happens with open primaries when the other side isn't contested NT Adrahil May 2016 #25

Especially when the primary is NOT open to Repubiicans nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #225

That's only an indication of how much they dislike Hillary. Vinca May 2016 #28

This is not open to republicans nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #226

You change your party affiliation, vote, then change it back. Vinca May 2016 #319

The deadline was April 19, so unless republicans have invented time travel... nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #338

April 19 isn't that long ago. Who knows what their desired result might be. Vinca May 2016 #344

When did Cruz suspend? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #345

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily May 2016 #29

BECAUSE TRUMP IS THE ALREADY THE NOMINEE. JaneyVee May 2016 #34

It's not an open primary TSIAS May 2016 #43

Nope, no Republicans are voting today for Sanders nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #70

Ding Ding Ding Bobbie Jo May 2016 #104

Except that republicans are not voting in this primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #130

I don't give a shit if they're Pat Paulson supporters,I'll take em. wendylaroux May 2016 #37

Here's a visual of the poll. Check out the "neither" part. Fawke Em May 2016 #41

Question TSIAS May 2016 #47

correct, on both counts nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #59

Of course, if Sanders were the nominee, they'd vote for him. dchill May 2016 #69

Sanders has consistently done best in areas where frazzled May 2016 #44

Yep. Open primaries allow Republicans to deliberately vote for the weakest Democrat, Nye Bevan May 2016 #48

Except that's not the case in West Virginia. Fawke Em May 2016 #53

Except Republicans are not mucking up your election nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #60

They simply can't accept that Independents aren't keen on Clinton. Fawke Em May 2016 #72

I know, the same situation in CA nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #74

And if Hillary was a popular candidate that people actually wanted and open primaries benefited -none May 2016 #171

This is why the remaining open primary results will be tainted; Trump ratfuckery Tarc May 2016 #50

Except no republicans are voting in your primary nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #63

Except you can't, or chose not to, read the OP Tarc May 2016 #77

Except that the state runs a MODIFIED PRIMARY SYSTEM nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #83

"...allow unaffiliated voters to vote in their primaries" Tarc May 2016 #164

yes 19 percent of the electorate nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #166

Keep trying... Tarc May 2016 #170

Actually I think you are now trying to bait nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #176

Sorry, I forgot about you last night :) Tarc May 2016 #322

Sanders has lost Demsrule86 May 2016 #245

Ah of course, the most trusted source of news nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #54

Ah, for once, exit polls finally matter on DU. LOL! However, one has to wonder merrily May 2016 #55

The point is to prolong the primary and hurt the Democratic Party. Renew Deal May 2016 #121

Sez you. Sanders has already says he's in it to the end. So again, there's no point to merrily May 2016 #132

Not only that, there is no cross over voting in VA nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #158

lol. And they wonder why some of us prefer closed primaries? ecstatic May 2016 #56

I agree with you, as long as state parties pay for the whole thing nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #62

Operation :Clinton Excuses basselope May 2016 #64

Here you go Renew Deal May 2016 #67

So EXACTLY what I said it was. basselope May 2016 #85

No it isn't Renew Deal May 2016 #105

That it isn't trump supporters crossing the aisle. basselope May 2016 #109

Right they are Trump supporters choosing Bernie Renew Deal May 2016 #113

No, they are Sanders supporters. basselope May 2016 #161

Today they are Sanders supporters Renew Deal May 2016 #167

Much more than you think. basselope May 2016 #185

there are probably two main types AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #204

correct nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #227

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #233

Because we all need a hobby nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #236

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #243

^ This AzDar May 2016 #128

They weren't asked their first choice. Eric J in MN May 2016 #65

The guy down the hall (from WV) says that many of his repub friends are trying to anotherproletariat May 2016 #73

Well if they are republians they are lying nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #75

Good point...I'll ask him! nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #84

Why am I not surprised? THe extremes are really populated by the same (type of) people who r quite Bill USA May 2016 #88

I say it's BS. A "setup" for the upcoming push NorthCarolina May 2016 #91

Amd I will push for the state parties to pay for each and all of them nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #95

Ahhhh, it's a years long conspiracy to close the primaries Renew Deal May 2016 #117

ominous if HRC is nominee; this reported in other states, by union rank & file amborin May 2016 #93

Wish the OP was more honest here... basselope May 2016 #99

You just said the same thing I said. Renew Deal May 2016 #111

No, that's not what I said... basselope May 2016 #159

People that vote for Trump are Trump supporters. Renew Deal May 2016 #162

Not according to what most people here say. basselope May 2016 #181

Oh so now Camp Weathervane ibegurpard May 2016 #102

If you remember, it was always the more conspiratorial types in Sanders camp that had problems Renew Deal May 2016 #106

No, 100% of them are for Sanders. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #112

44% of Sanders voters in WV are a Trump supporters Renew Deal May 2016 #115

No. They are independent Sanders supporters who won't vote for Clinton. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #120

Punishment has nothing to do with anything Renew Deal May 2016 #126

Only if the choice is Trump v Clinton. bunnies May 2016 #123

True Renew Deal May 2016 #127

I wish you'd make up your mind. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #131

Neither? Renew Deal May 2016 #138

And at least 20 percent are democrats, if not higher nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #253

Anti-establishment would be my guess. bunnies May 2016 #135

And you are correct nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #136

I'm not buying the conspiracy theories. bunnies May 2016 #152

Well that was a lovely Rush Limbaugh theory nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #184

Was it really to vote for HRC? bunnies May 2016 #187

Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #191

I don't mind the source. bunnies May 2016 #202

Well I doubt it was ever done nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #205

there are other motivations Renew Deal May 2016 #140

I suppose it could be some of that. bunnies May 2016 #147

Because now their race is wrapped up. Renew Deal May 2016 #150

All 44% though? nt bunnies May 2016 #160

But unless they got time travel technology, they did not re-register on the 19 of April nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #228

19 percent of those voters are independent voters, in the total voter pool nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #151

As you know, WV is full of DINO's Renew Deal May 2016 #154

Whatever you call them, they are DEMOCRATS nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #156

Young white guys and their elders that do not like certain groups, just sayin'. I hear ya. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #124

As of this moment, and from now on, the leader of the "Not Hillary" Party is Donald Trump. baldguy May 2016 #129

There are two people running against Hillary Renew Deal May 2016 #148

Yep. baldguy May 2016 #172

Hillary and Trump are closer to each other than to Bernie. senz May 2016 #188

You guys have to make up your minds on that one Renew Deal May 2016 #195

Because it's all about Hillary! There's nobody else! senz May 2016 #183

She's being double-teamed by Trump and Sanders - and she's still winning. baldguy May 2016 #206

LIKEWISE, anyone who doesn't want Bernie gives aid to Trump. senz May 2016 #214

Except - Sanders **IS NOT WINNING!** baldguy May 2016 #220

BALONEY! Lodestar May 2016 #137

Horseshoe theory workinclasszero May 2016 #173

Horsecrap theory. frylock May 2016 #250

Yeah the side that gets all its conspiracy theories from The Blaze, freerepublic, redstate, breitbart workinclasszero May 2016 #267

Did you read that on Brock Nation Review? frylock May 2016 #268

Nope right here on "Democratic" Underground workinclasszero May 2016 #270

So Sanders is a RW politician? I am sure that will come as a surprise to the Senator nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #313

Don't put words in my mouth I never said workinclasszero May 2016 #321

Nah you said this was also a right wing hate site nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #334

Good lord. DCBob May 2016 #177

They want coal production. Aren't open primaries just lovely ? Trust Buster May 2016 #182

It is not open nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #222

+1 leeroysphitz May 2016 #320

Independents are voting in the Democratic primary TexasTowelie May 2016 #210

What are the excuses gonna be when she loses Oregon? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #213

And if she loses CA nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #230

They'll want to shut down the Communist USPS. frylock May 2016 #259

Poll: Despite Bernie Sanders' Crowds, Hillary Clinton Ahead In Oregon-48 to 33 riversedge May 2016 #303

We'll see! Warren DeMontague May 2016 #305

I hope she wins but I'm only cautiously optimistic Haveadream May 2016 #325

I think there are other factors beyond diversity and open/closed primaries, myself. Like Geography. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #347

So, Trump won both primaries. TwilightZone May 2016 #217

That, and the number of Conservative Democrats who signaled they will vote Trump in November nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #231

Source? TwilightZone May 2016 #235

Quite simple nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #238

I agree with you Haveadream May 2016 #337

Open Primaries Versus Closed Primaries TomCADem May 2016 #254

It isn't an open primary, but semi-open. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #257

In 2012, Most Independents Were Republican Leaning, Tea Partiers... TomCADem May 2016 #261

Anybody but Clinton for so many then, right? nt. polly7 May 2016 #258

What about yourself? Renew Deal May 2016 #273

What about yourself? nt. polly7 May 2016 #274

I prefer Clinton over Trump. Renew Deal May 2016 #275

I don't vote there, but have quite a few family who do - they prefer Sanders. nt. polly7 May 2016 #277

What about you? Renew Deal May 2016 #280

I SAID - the voters there must prefer 'anybody but Clinton'. polly7 May 2016 #282

Ok. I accept that. Renew Deal May 2016 #284

I prefer Sanders. nt. polly7 May 2016 #285

Is there any reason to believe you prefer Clinton to Trump? Renew Deal May 2016 #288

I never mentioned Trump. Wtf are you trying for? nt. polly7 May 2016 #290

You said "Anybody but Clinton" Renew Deal May 2016 #294

I'm saying that voters there apparently believe it. Can you not read? nt. polly7 May 2016 #295

And I am asking if you agree with those voters. Renew Deal May 2016 #296

I don't vote there. Get that??? I have family who do, they support Sanders. polly7 May 2016 #297

ABC frylock May 2016 #260

Do you stand by that? Renew Deal May 2016 #272

ABC is what it is. How I feel has no bearing. frylock May 2016 #286

Shame Renew Deal May 2016 #287

Okay. frylock May 2016 #289

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service eggplant May 2016 #298

Hmmmmmm ......... you were alerted on. polly7 May 2016 #302

Better luck next time, eh. frylock May 2016 #304

Record numbers switched to Republican this year in WV to vote for Trump. hollowdweller May 2016 #263

no surprise DrDan May 2016 #291

SHOCKING!!111 Im SHOCKeD!111one Number23 May 2016 #306

I predict that Hills will not take WV in November. ucrdem May 2016 #307

I'm a Sanders supporter who will never vote for Trump, Shadowflash May 2016 #326

Horse hockey apnu May 2016 #327

Haha! Yeah. Shadowflash May 2016 #328

We will indeed. apnu May 2016 #331

They are out there, if this will make you feel better, I actually talked to one who is firmly nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #332

Except that Trump is the definition of the establishment. apnu May 2016 #333

No he is not actually nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #335

Sorry you lost me at "ideology" apnu May 2016 #340

Wrong,he does have a clear ideology nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #341

OK then. You brought no analysis to your argument nor sources apnu May 2016 #342

I actually have spent the time doing this nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #343

Considering that we agree in some areas yet you insist i'm blind apnu May 2016 #346

Yes, half of West Virginia Democrats always vote Republican for President. ieoeja May 2016 #329

They are only Trump supporters if Clinton get the nomination. Otherwise, they are Sanders supporters mhatrw May 2016 #336