2016 Postmortem

SheilaT

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52. So please enlighten me as to the Progressive policies

Sun May 15, 2016, 02:19 PM

May 2016

she championed and passed in her years in public office? Somehow I never see anything here other than vague platitudes about how she's supposedly fought for women and children, and if someone brings up things like the Three Strikes laws, or the ending of welfare which hurt women and children terribly, or her support of the Libyan fiasco, these are dismissed as irrelevant.

Yes, I am biased against her, because I clearly see what terrible things she's done.

And if it's a choice between her and Trump I'll be writing Bernie Sanders' name in come November. I am not going to vote for the lesser of two evils, because it's still evil. If she can't more to a genuinely progressive place why should I vote for her? It is up to HER to convince me she has positive qualities and positions I can actually vote for.

And since the Hillary supporters here love to sneer that Sanders can only win in open caucuses or primaries, as if the independents and crossover Republicans somehow won't matter in November, then she can win without my one vote.

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I'm With Her... [View all] Grassy Knoll May 2016 OP

YAY!! NewImproved Deal May 2016 #1

Lol, a 20 year old pic? Really? Logical May 2016 #18

20 is generous, I think. merrily May 2016 #102

k&r bigtree May 2016 #2

Who did the art for that jacket? Mike Judge? Hassin Bin Sober May 2016 #12

Hey, cute! My guess for the artist is the spouse and Hortensis May 2016 #84

I can wait until we find one who doesnt bring a truckload of political baggage libdem4life May 2016 #3

We don't have to look far, there's plenty of fantastic women out there. cui bono May 2016 #58

Absolutely...they just didn't get their Free to Pass Go Card. libdem4life May 2016 #60

I fear that any woman will just be called a bitch and demonized. If Hillary can't get in with her kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #85

Oh, please. No need for such drama. HRC is a War Hawk. libdem4life May 2016 #89

I'm with her. Thinkingabout May 2016 #4

... sheshe2 May 2016 #5

40 something k for katies endorsement SwampG8r May 2016 #90

;) sheshe2 May 2016 #93

Wow! northernsouthern May 2016 #96

Gross dreamnightwind May 2016 #6

... sheshe2 May 2016 #8

here ya go bigtree May 2016 #10

Ha! sheshe2 May 2016 #95

Yeah, well whatchamacallit May 2016 #7

The Donald Duck? Grassy Knoll May 2016 #17

Bwahahaha I see you whatchamacallit May 2016 #28

Disgusting. seekthetruth May 2016 #9

adorable bigtree May 2016 #13

;) sheshe2 May 2016 #15

That means average people. Fawke Em May 2016 #25

. Dragonfli May 2016 #11

That is fucking scary! seekthetruth May 2016 #14

Eye. Roll. Zynx May 2016 #16

Right on the money. pdsimdars May 2016 #46

Sorry, but she doesn't have a viable path. basselope May 2016 #19

I love You Guys/Gals.... Grassy Knoll May 2016 #20

Sorry for the dose of reality. basselope May 2016 #21

WHAT?.... Grassy Knoll May 2016 #22

Sorry the truth hurts. basselope May 2016 #23

Do You Do Wedding??? Grassy Knoll May 2016 #26

Nope. basselope May 2016 #29

I'm female and I'd prefer the first female president not be a corporate owned war hawk. Fawke Em May 2016 #24

Hmmmm.... LuvLoogie May 2016 #33

The larger question is why we keep voting for plurocrats. Fawke Em May 2016 #34

And THAT is THE important question? Why keep voting for plutocrats???? pdsimdars May 2016 #47

This...a gender-neutral term/person/political position. libdem4life May 2016 #61

Not happening. Jester Messiah May 2016 #27

Nicely said. pdsimdars May 2016 #48

Once again, the only reason given for electing her SheilaT May 2016 #30

projection bigtree May 2016 #31

There are more parties that D and R. Fawke Em May 2016 #35

Her entire career includes things like SheilaT May 2016 #37

that's all shorthand bigtree May 2016 #41

No, it's not shorthand. SheilaT May 2016 #50

Dismissal is not dialogue. About her record...and the distortions... libdem4life May 2016 #65

victim card? bigtree May 2016 #68

Not really. The historic accomplishment...how exactly to read that, libdem4life May 2016 #71

she's not going to live the Sanders' campaign caricature bigtree May 2016 #74

Well, I was going to let this conversation die a natural death, but libdem4life May 2016 #75

funny you should bring up the email canard bigtree May 2016 #81

The email canard? Go tell it to the FBI. We're done here. libdem4life May 2016 #83

they already know bigtree May 2016 #87

So please enlighten me as to the Progressive policies SheilaT May 2016 #52

so it all amounts to getting your way or just throwing stones from the sidelines for you bigtree May 2016 #70

Once again, all her supporters can say are vague generalities. SheilaT May 2016 #76

Resentment? Well, beats Hater when daring to mention her record. libdem4life May 2016 #63

'Zactly. Hillary is corporate owned and personal-power-and-profit-driven. JudyM May 2016 #43

She knows her stuff 6chars May 2016 #53

Unfortunately, her judgment sucks. Understanding does not equate to wisdom. libdem4life May 2016 #66

very well said. Merryland May 2016 #103

With all of her amazing diplomatic skills, SheilaT May 2016 #77

A potentially great president 6chars May 2016 #94

Emphasis on potential. libdem4life May 2016 #107

And the problem with her 40+ year record SheilaT May 2016 #108

Wow ... Trajan May 2016 #32

Im with her........ DJ13 May 2016 #36

Me too! B Calm May 2016 #39

It's not about selecting the first woman president! B Calm May 2016 #38

sad for you bigtree May 2016 #42

Sad for the Democratic party. B Calm May 2016 #45

we're just fine bigtree May 2016 #72

NO WE'RE NOT! Not when old time democrats like myself are considering sitting an election B Calm May 2016 #98

the decision to forgo joining the Democratic coalition bigtree May 2016 #99

But, you said we're just fine when clearly we're not! B Calm May 2016 #101

I don't know about you bigtree May 2016 #104

We'll see! B Calm May 2016 #105

sad for you cui bono May 2016 #57

So, if it IS about electing the first woman President, SheilaT May 2016 #78

such delusion bigtree May 2016 #88

I keep on asking for specifics of her accomplishments, SheilaT May 2016 #92

maybe it's because you're still fighting the primary bigtree May 2016 #100

I don't like chickenhawks Vattel May 2016 #40

Dont dis chickenhawks SwampG8r May 2016 #91

The "1st woman president" argument in a nutshell: because vagina! Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #44

"because vagina!" NewImproved Deal May 2016 #51

Maybe she carries around "hot sauce" in her purse cui bono May 2016 #55

Friedman Amplification... Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #59

I can understand making little jokes but naming products like that? cui bono May 2016 #62

Rather expensive, high-end products, no less. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #67

I get this is a really tough concept, so many Sanders supporters seem not able to grasp. seabeyond May 2016 #86

Who are you and what have you done with seabeyond? cui bono May 2016 #97

But is it just "her", can you answer WHAT? pdsimdars May 2016 #49

Thanks for this. SheilaT May 2016 #79

You know you can just copy the link location of the picture and put that in your message. pdsimdars May 2016 #109

So are the people who brought you this: cui bono May 2016 #54

Actual brown shirts. SheilaT May 2016 #80

I'm with her LWolf May 2016 #56

I'm not. frylock May 2016 #64

Me too!!! She's the most qualified person ever to run for POTUS........EVER!!!!!! beaglelover May 2016 #69

You don't know much about Presidential history do you? Have fun at Disneyland. snowy owl May 2016 #82

Hillary is one tough ole broad. kstewart33 May 2016 #73

And if "Her" was Fiorina, Palin, or Bachmann? The Blue Flower May 2016 #106

I don't support corruption. /nt Marr May 2016 #110