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cui bono

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63. Obama and Hillary are vitually identical in terms of policy.
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:40 PM
May 2016

Bernie is finally the person the left wing of the Democratic Party - the people who still hold dear all the principles the Dem Party used to stand for; unions, working people, democracy, SS, income equality, fair taxation, health care - has been wishing for but were not given due to the Dem Party leadership selling out to big money. Obama is from the right wing of the party, the DLC crowd, the Third Way gang. He and Hillary are of the same mindset of pleasing the banksters while Bernie takes them on in order to fight for the people.

There is a YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference this time. If the Dem Party establishment squashed the dreams of half its party there will be a split. And it will not be "sour grapes" it will be very real as it will come from the realization that the Dem Party is no longer the party that stands for the people. It will show loud and clear that they are the centrist party, that they embrace far too many moderate Republican principles and that anyone who wants a party that fights for them will have to go elsewhere.

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Wasn't split in 2008. Not split now. nt onehandle May 2016 #1
Its been split for a long time..waiting to erupt...n/t tokenlib May 2016 #4
yes n/t merbex May 2016 #12
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #14
Welcome back. Hope you don't get a hide. libdem4life May 2016 #18
Obama and Hillary are vitually identical in terms of policy. cui bono May 2016 #63
Bernie is just messenger. The party has been split by the Third Way. BillZBubb May 2016 #2
Bingo Armstead May 2016 #28
Ditto the bingo. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #40
And ditto the bingo again! -none May 2016 #54
+1 Kittycat May 2016 #51
Yes. djean111 May 2016 #3
The party is not split. Agschmid May 2016 #5
From every meeting, message board and Democratic gathering I see. Fawke Em May 2016 #15
It's really not. Agschmid May 2016 #64
OK it's not..29% of registered voters and shrinking.. tokenlib May 2016 #75
The party isn't breaking into two, look at the voter results. Agschmid May 2016 #76
Keep your head in the sand, my friend. BillZBubb May 2016 #41
It is according to me. SusanCalvin May 2016 #42
I know you and your comrades are serious about the party not being split. floriduck May 2016 #61
Question for djean Txbluedog May 2016 #6
When your future is being threatened, is that moral purity? AZ Progressive May 2016 #7
Yep. Why choose the Marginally Less-Sh*tty Oligarch...? NewImproved Deal May 2016 #30
Because one's a loose cannon and one's not. SusanCalvin May 2016 #44
Can we get real for a second? TDale313 May 2016 #13
True Txbluedog May 2016 #25
No, but it's a statement vote at best in any event. TDale313 May 2016 #34
I'm in FL, and this year the Dems can't expect me to roll over and die glowing May 2016 #71
There are other parties, you know. Fawke Em May 2016 #17
Yes, but SusanCalvin May 2016 #47
True, but I mean that I'll use a vote for a third party as a signal to Fawke Em May 2016 #65
Yeah. SusanCalvin May 2016 #70
So by letting Trump win Txbluedog May 2016 #8
Is that all you can offer? AZ Progressive May 2016 #9
BTW, do you think that free trade is good? AZ Progressive May 2016 #10
You think that free trade can be stopped? Txbluedog May 2016 #16
"Resistance is futile" AZ Progressive May 2016 #20
Trade can be controlled -- The control has been given to Transnational Corporations Armstead May 2016 #32
Yep. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #39
Large corporations are the real enemy. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #58
Yes. Yes, I do. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #50
The .Supreme Court has been hung before us for years... tokenlib May 2016 #21
we are screwed by either trump or Hillary, just by different degrees, however still screwed litlbilly May 2016 #60
The split was here before Bernie Hydra May 2016 #11
It'll be here long after this Primary too. TDale313 May 2016 #19
Kind of interesting how two such opposing parties/personalities/organizations libdem4life May 2016 #22
There has been a sea change Hydra May 2016 #27
It's become more of a Class Warfare situation. Corporate. Rigged. libdem4life May 2016 #29
Becoming.....? nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #35
I guess that's the tiny bit of hope I have??? It's just that people now are libdem4life May 2016 #49
Oh, Bernie does give me hope. SusanCalvin May 2016 #55
Absolutely. libdem4life May 2016 #72
From Burlington, gogeous sunsets over Lake Champlain karynnj May 2016 #67
Thanks. My East Coast geography is non-existent. Another question... libdem4life May 2016 #73
Yep. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #38
As long as it's "Our" Oligarch! NewImproved Deal May 2016 #23
Oligarchs is oligarchs. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #33
He's working his heart out to save the Democratic Party from itself. Chezboo May 2016 #24
Franklin's New Deal usurped by a swarm of vicious, greedy, amoral Yuppies... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #26
"I've got mine, screw you!" AZ Progressive May 2016 #36
Indeed. Vicious, greedy, amoral Yuppies--the leadership of the "New Democrats". NewImproved Deal May 2016 #56
For years, that was my description of a Republican... libdem4life May 2016 #59
Yep, yep, and yep. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #31
Nothing ever Sanders fault. Steal data, logos, endorsement. Not Sanders fault. Don't follow rules, seabeyond May 2016 #37
Congrats, after another absurd, desperate post, you made my ignore list! BillZBubb May 2016 #43
What in the hell would be desperate, sitting in the winners seat, lol. You people. At least get the seabeyond May 2016 #46
I'm happy you're happy your candidate is winning. SusanCalvin May 2016 #62
Obey, follow the rules. He who breaks the law goes timmymoff May 2016 #52
Omg, ergo, Sanders is special and doesn't have to follow rules and laws everyone else does. seabeyond May 2016 #81
That sounds a lot like Hillary AZ Progressive May 2016 #82
Rules are for little people timmymoff May 2016 #83
'The party' isn't split. The angry people don't consider themselves members anyway. CrowCityDem May 2016 #45
So should the Democratic Party be a party just of pro free trade professionals that are... AZ Progressive May 2016 #48
Free trade is complicated. CrowCityDem May 2016 #53
The issue here is that corporate america and the 1% is putting much of America under siege and the... AZ Progressive May 2016 #57
Wait, what? kcr May 2016 #74
Hillary has been milking identity politics AZ Progressive May 2016 #79
Well, actually, it is like it should not be recognized. Actually. kcr May 2016 #80
Well, you're half right..... tokenlib May 2016 #69
K&R. Classic case of shoot the messenger, by the establishment. nt silvershadow May 2016 #66
Since sanders was never a democrat...I'm not too concern about opinions... beachbumbob May 2016 #68
beachbumbob—Do you research Democrats? Or will anyone—and anything—followed by a ‘D’ do? CobaltBlue May 2016 #84
sure it is Demsrule86 May 2016 #77
The split has been here all along. This time, it may result in a real split. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #78
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