2016 Postmortem

libdem4life

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14. I have to agree. And since entrenched folks whose livings...great or small...

Tue May 17, 2016, 11:00 AM

May 2016

depend on the system in place, it will be a fight. Hopefully only political.

However, it is not a political issue. It is a social/cultural/financial Class Division. An old phrase, the Haves and the Have Nots. And it is egregiously fixed. Anyone with age in the double digits knows that.

And we know HRC doesn't plan to do much other than mouth some compromising statements...and will revert to her roots if and when she becomes president. She owes too many people and too many people owe her/them. That is not a secret.

The Clinton Machine has been going for decades. You don't hear about the Sanders Machine. People are just finding out who he is...and many of the Have Nots relate with and like his intent.

It's not about what can you do for me tomorrow, (the unicorns and ponies put down meme) at this stage in the game for us of Boomer age, it's what can you do for my children and grandchildren over time...given the proper focus.

The Wheel of Fortune turns slower as it approaches the apex, then falls faster, which may an appropriate analogy.

Another saying is that the longer someone is held down, the more power they must bring to be let go. Women's Rights, Black Rights, LGBT Rights, all divided over a social purpose.

This one is money...pure and simple. It crosses most of the old boundaries. It also has to go.

ETA: It was surely no Kent State.

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You think Nevada was ugly? Just wait! [View all] rateyes May 2016 OP

This... Agschmid May 2016 #1

That is not mental illness. It's rage, possibly feigned. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #11

It's terrorism and should be dealt with Ohioblue22 May 2016 #17

It's not terrorism, either. winter is coming May 2016 #20

It's intimidation in order to affect a political outcome. Ohioblue22 May 2016 #34

Oh bullshit. It's intellectually dishonest to pretend that Maru Kitteh May 2016 #91

No, I'd have the exact same opinion that I do now: it's fucking ugly winter is coming May 2016 #92

Oh here we go "Be Afraid ,be very afraid" are we going to use the terror color code too ? bahrbearian May 2016 #27

So your okay with that voicemail? Agschmid May 2016 #30

"Its Terrorism I tell you Terrorism" Shock and Awe, Then "I made a mistake" bahrbearian May 2016 #36

I didn't say it was terrorism... That wasn't me. Agschmid May 2016 #38

Are you "OK" calling it Terrorism bahrbearian May 2016 #45

I not okay with calling it "terrorism" nor did I ever say it was. Agschmid May 2016 #49

NO you only said it Wasn't You that said it . You didn't state you weren't OK with it. bahrbearian May 2016 #53

If I were you I'd go ahead and re-read my last post. Agschmid May 2016 #54

Your job now is to pore over all the posts on DU and declare your objection to as many a possible... George II May 2016 #108

I know right?!?! Agschmid May 2016 #109

A call like that for this reason is terrorism Ohioblue22 May 2016 #37

Caller never threatened her, said you *should be* hung. (See definition of "is") DebDoo May 2016 #90

Your response is laughable. Agschmid May 2016 #131

This came from a San Diego area phone nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #81

other terrorists by your standards SheenaR May 2016 #48

I'm sure they all would have on the phone with their curse words and death threats and BTW that Ohioblue22 May 2016 #56

The first two were willing to kill the opposition SheenaR May 2016 #57

Words are cheap Ohioblue22 May 2016 #62

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #125

Threatening the life of someone else *isn't* rage. Agschmid May 2016 #24

No, it doesn't have to be mental illness. winter is coming May 2016 #33

... Agschmid May 2016 #35

Yes, it is a form of mental illness, but we don't know WHO made the call yet adigal May 2016 #97

Oh sure puffy socks May 2016 #128

You're sticking up for this? George II May 2016 #107

I didn't "stick up" for the behavior. It's not mental illness. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #112

So, let me get this straight. basselope May 2016 #21

Smells like mental illness. Agschmid May 2016 #25

If you define mental illness as someone faking it.. yeah, it does smell like that. basselope May 2016 #43

I do define it as someone willing I say that to another person. Agschmid May 2016 #52

So actors are mentally ill? basselope May 2016 #55

Yes that's exactly what I meant... Agschmid May 2016 #58

Not sure if there was one. basselope May 2016 #60

No threat. Caller said "you *should be* hung" and *I hope* you burn DebDoo May 2016 #94

Try saying that about an official and see how fast the secret service wants to have a conversation. basselope May 2016 #104

These people are disgusting. Bobbie Jo May 2016 #28

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #29

And there is what evidence that this is a Bernie supporter? cali May 2016 #40

I at least got you the organic kind... Agschmid May 2016 #63

Caller ID was David Brock... HooptieWagon May 2016 #42

People who leave those vile messages ARE the COWARDS! riversedge May 2016 #64

Brook posted the actual number nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #66

I edited it out once I noticed it was in there. Agschmid May 2016 #68

It's been posted about 1000 times on DU in the past couple days. TwilightZone May 2016 #71

Neither is ok nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #76

Oh, I agree that neither is acceptable. TwilightZone May 2016 #77

Hmm tjey are not my compatriots nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #79

I did not say they were ok nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #73

You really should be investigating this stuff! zappaman May 2016 #83

Lmao nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #84

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #124

No DOUBT a PLANTED Hillary Shill &/or Rockyj May 2016 #132

Yup... No doubt... None at all. Agschmid May 2016 #133

If we (the minority) don't get our way, you guys will all suffer. How Democratic Sheepshank May 2016 #2

A revolution led by fools who couldn't be bothered to register as Dems even when GWB was President BeyondGeography May 2016 #3

Beyond rationality. pdsimdars May 2016 #78

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #4

Rose's water pipes were made from lead Ohioblue22 May 2016 #19

I see. Well, I'm quaking in my boots, for sure, now. MineralMan May 2016 #5

Can't wait until Bernie runs out of money to pay Revolution Messaging Txbluedog May 2016 #6

Member since: Fri May 13, 2016, 04:36 PM frylock May 2016 #15

Post count snobbery. Wtf does post count have to do with the content Ohioblue22 May 2016 #26

.. frylock May 2016 #31

Yeah that's what I thought Ohioblue22 May 2016 #41

Brocktastic! frylock May 2016 #47

That's a good one. pdsimdars May 2016 #82

It's patently obvious who they are and where they came from. frylock May 2016 #85

Kind of like driving for Uber . . . .earn a little extra money in your spare time. . . . pdsimdars May 2016 #102

Yeah it was hilarious and very clever Ohioblue22 May 2016 #95

Can't lose Dem2 May 2016 #105

You're right. It's pure coincidence that shortly after it's announced that Count Brockula.. frylock May 2016 #106

You believe anything you want Dem2 May 2016 #110

Most of those who aren't for real are multiplying like fucking Gremlins. frylock May 2016 #111

Only 85% Bernie supporters here Dem2 May 2016 #113

Hey, remind me again which group is calling for a purge kplzthx. frylock May 2016 #116

I don't know Dem2 May 2016 #117

Well why opine on something you know nothing about? frylock May 2016 #118

You seem confused. Dem2 May 2016 #119

I said good day. frylock May 2016 #120

We know the paople donate to Bernie, the corporations bought Hillary pdsimdars May 2016 #80

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #126

Oh please. auntpurl May 2016 #7

It's all they have...molehills...the Mountains are still out there. libdem4life May 2016 #16

I guess I'm not normal then purl dana_b May 2016 #39

Informed and awake. lol looks more like intimidation and tantrums Ohioblue22 May 2016 #46

My response was NOT about Bernie supporters in general! auntpurl May 2016 #114

Anti-democratic revolution. Awesome nt firebrand80 May 2016 #8

If Philadelphia is a rerun of Nevada kstewart33 May 2016 #9

What DWS and her ilk don't seem to grasp is that they are manipulating for money and power - djean111 May 2016 #10

And rightfully so. This rightness of the reaction must be made clear to all. nt stillwaiting May 2016 #12

Lessons unlearned by the establishment... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #13

Bernie has been part of the government for 30 years what do you mean by not establishment Ohioblue22 May 2016 #22

sure... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #59

Ok ,establishment is OK as long as it isn't DEM establishment Ohioblue22 May 2016 #61

... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #65

Yeah you said that Ohioblue22 May 2016 #67

reading is fundamental... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #70

The anti-establish group is backing Bernie correct? Ohioblue22 May 2016 #72

... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #75

I have to agree. And since entrenched folks whose livings...great or small... libdem4life May 2016 #14

I hope you're right dreamnightwind May 2016 #18

Precisely. 99Forever May 2016 #23

Oh please. What a foolishly tough talking OP. You can't back it up or you wouldn't have found it Trust Buster May 2016 #32

LOL, Yup, Press Start To Continue... Grassy Knoll May 2016 #51

No threat. Prediction. If DWS does what Lange did rateyes May 2016 #101

+1 SheenaR May 2016 #44

They'll huff and they'll puff !!! JoePhilly May 2016 #50

Another threat? If its a "tactic" its a miserable failure. If its faith BootinUp May 2016 #69

In otherwards you didn't like what that lady did to the democratic process with her armed thugs pdsimdars May 2016 #86

I don't expect everyone here to put out an accurate narrative. You're excused. lol. nt BootinUp May 2016 #88

I watched the video. . . oh, and I had my eyes and mind opened. pdsimdars May 2016 #103

On a far more general point you are correct nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #74

This one is really appropriate here. pdsimdars May 2016 #87

There are some similarties between now and 1968 hollowdweller May 2016 #89

People get very upset when democracy is taken from them. 1776 comes to mind. senz May 2016 #93

Is this what happens when a generation who was raised to feel entitled finally comes of age? eastwestdem May 2016 #96

Perhaps helped by helicopter parents and everyone is a winner? fleabiscuit May 2016 #98

Lets take a look at your premise: bvar22 May 2016 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #99

Any country is only three meals away from a revolution. Katashi_itto May 2016 #136

Those of us who have seen it before Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #115

Yep. I'm old enough to remember. rateyes May 2016 #121

Great post, rateyes, thanks. K&R. Scuba May 2016 #122

K&R! coco77 May 2016 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #127

First they create the disturbance, then point their fingers at the Bernie Delegates. It's all B Calm May 2016 #129

Bingo! Thread winner right here. ^^^ farleftlib May 2016 #130

LOL Scurrilous May 2016 #134

I'll be honest I have no respect for ignorant voters and politicians who use beachbumbob May 2016 #135