2016 Postmortem

Barack_America

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17. Independents are NOT pragmatic.

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:55 PM

May 2016

Independents are angry, dissatisfied voters. And this year, their anger is directed at "establishment" candidates, regardless of party.

Hillary will never win them.

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"The Hidden Importance Of The Sanders Voter" [View all] Attorney in Texas May 2016 OP

I believe that it all depends on the Convention. guillaumeb May 2016 #1

The fight between Obama supporters and Hillary supporters in 2008 was uglier in tone but the dislike Attorney in Texas May 2016 #3

I agree with your first position, guillaumeb May 2016 #6

It appears that both Hillary and the party leaders have realized this. kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #33

She is miscalculating pmorlan1 May 2016 #31

Cluelessness and lack of good judgment Art_from_Ark May 2016 #32

Did you watch that video w/Cuomo pmorlan1 May 2016 #35

I watched part of it, and, as you noted, it is hard to watch Art_from_Ark May 2016 #36

The Clinton Consensus is "They have no choice, I am their only choice!" JPnoodleman May 2016 #49

She believes this pmorlan1 May 2016 #52

It would be a shame if the DNC pulled a Nevada at the Convention. senz May 2016 #11

I think there will either be unity or chaos. Reason would dictate unity but Hillary's ego may Attorney in Texas May 2016 #24

I just hope senz May 2016 #29

Clinton will not get the independent vote. Skwmom May 2016 #2

sure she will... Fresh_Start May 2016 #4

Independents are NOT pragmatic. Barack_America May 2016 #17

no, you are wrong Fresh_Start May 2016 #18

According to current polling...I'm right. Barack_America May 2016 #19

there is no polling which shows the independents vote enbloc Fresh_Start May 2016 #20

I agree with you, most people will vote for her, but only because they're voting against Trump most JRLeft May 2016 #46

yes, they will be pragmatic Fresh_Start May 2016 #47

They hate both candidates and I agree with them I'm voting for Hillary and think her and JRLeft May 2016 #48

Independents are simply unaffiliated... JPnoodleman May 2016 #50

independents are split Fresh_Start May 2016 #51

Not on her current path, but it's not too late for a course correction. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #9

You can't change the facts. Skwmom May 2016 #10

Achieving something that approached unity would not be easy, but it does not seem impossible yet Attorney in Texas May 2016 #12

Obama won without it so will Clinton uponit7771 May 2016 #15

Obama is a thousand times better than Clinton senz May 2016 #27

OMG supporters of candidate A have unfavorable views of candidate B. Never happened before ever nt msongs May 2016 #5

November won't even hold it if you think this is unfavorable. Aerows May 2016 #8

Hillary and her campaign have stated Aerows May 2016 #7

She won't get my vote. 840high May 2016 #13

Her campaign seems calculated to split the party and lose the general. Vote2016 May 2016 #14

Her campaign is in full Titanic mode Art_from_Ark May 2016 #38

Bookmarked and screen saved uponit7771 May 2016 #16

Knock yourself out. Take 840high May 2016 #21

Holy cow! How many hides does it take to get banned? Vote2016 May 2016 #22

God only knows. That one is a bully. 840high May 2016 #23

I'm sorry you're being bullied that way. senz May 2016 #26

Thank you. 840high May 2016 #42

I've noticed Hill folk bookmarking and screen saving senz May 2016 #25

Not the least bit surprising. merrily May 2016 #30

Thanks, merrily senz May 2016 #41

Thank you senz. Bernie did very much exist for them before he announced. merrily May 2016 #43

Okay, I guess I just hadn't noticed. senz May 2016 #44

Thank you so much! merrily May 2016 #45

despicable, anti-democratic, and desperate amborin May 2016 #40

Inhale everyone, we still have five months. oldandhappy May 2016 #28

Hill Folk have deluded themselves into thinking she can make up the difference w/ "megachurch moms" Warren DeMontague May 2016 #34

I'm curious if we'll see any polling that includes Libertarian and Green candidates. I bet both 3rd Vote2016 May 2016 #37

Hidden????? I don't think it's hiding ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #39

Unfavorables shoot up with the fraud-ridden AZ primary AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #53

Hillary is not thought of as more honest than Trump. Let THAT sink in. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #54