2016 Postmortem

andym

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62. Real question is does she want to do "any of those things" child care etc

Fri May 20, 2016, 12:10 PM

May 2016

Why is that the real question? Because I think the gerrymandering means the House will remain GOP the entire term of the next President. So neither Hillary nor Bernie will be able to get any progressive program passed.

The answer to my question is that I think so, she has long advocated increasing child care and has been supportive (but not as much as Bernie) of LGBT. The thing with Hillary is that she never gets ahead of the trend, she follows it. Bernie is trying to make the trend.

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I'm a Bernie supporter but a realist, not only will Bernie back Hillary. He will campaign for her. [View all] JRLeft May 2016 OP

I don't even think she'll go that far. VulgarPoet May 2016 #1

I agreed to vote for her months ago. I was going to max out. I won't give her a dime. JRLeft May 2016 #4

And I'm staying Independent-- I half considered switching to Dem, but Texas was a semi-open. VulgarPoet May 2016 #10

I feel it. I'm switching on June 8th. JRLeft May 2016 #12

I'm gone, went unaffiliated when I finally realized what the "new" democratic party RKP5637 May 2016 #32

That makes 2 of us, all though she has my vote in November. That will be my last corporatist vote. JRLeft May 2016 #38

Voted for Bernie on Tuesday, switched registration on Wednesday.[n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #65

Both Hillary and Trump, highest unfavorably in decades sure tells a lot! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #7

what happened that I don't know about? Has Bernie resigned from his campaign? Hiraeth May 2016 #26

I am a Bernie supporter, I know that Hillary would be lying if she said she would change djean111 May 2016 #2

I understand. JRLeft May 2016 #6

If Bernie doesn't want to lead the revolution he helped spur Merryland May 2016 #3

We agree on this, the revolution will wait on a leader and do nothing in between... uponit7771 May 2016 #8

The DNC must be gutted or disregarded. JRLeft May 2016 #11

Yeap, burn the village down to save it.. where have people heard that before?! uponit7771 May 2016 #13

No, it means replace the leadership. JRLeft May 2016 #16

That would take mobilizing people and getting them to polls and not just anger. I haven't seen this uponit7771 May 2016 #22

It's called getting on party boards and changing rules. That is how you get real progressives on JRLeft May 2016 #30

Very true, we'll see... Sanders continues and we win congress and Clinton cedes power to the... uponit7771 May 2016 #33

Sanders supporters are already raising money for the midterm elections. JRLeft May 2016 #36

Yes! kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #55

People believe we're uninformed but we're already focused on 2018. JRLeft May 2016 #56

Exactly!!! Millions and millions are fed up, it's not going away. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #35

He may just do that, but I think we are way past the point where he can just say pinskinny May 2016 #5

There may be 30% of his voters who won't vote for her I think that number shrinks by August. JRLeft May 2016 #9

she won't lie Florencenj2point0 May 2016 #14

He will, if he didn't I would be surprised. JRLeft May 2016 #18

"She never attacked him" liberalnarb May 2016 #20

I got a big laugh out of "gracious". winter is coming May 2016 #27

No kidding. liberalnarb May 2016 #29

Gracious? VulgarPoet May 2016 #31

I respect what ever choice Bernie makes. SamKnause May 2016 #15

I don't think he will support her in any real and robust way Sheepshank May 2016 #17

Wrong, he will campaign like hell for her. If he doesn't she's in trouble. JRLeft May 2016 #21

Clinton's entire political career has been an ego trip. liberalnarb May 2016 #24

bookmarking. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #25

Please do, kick it when he does exactly what I just said. JRLeft May 2016 #34

Hillary is the plan, always has been. Ron Green May 2016 #19

That's the real tragedy. Rank-and-file Democrats have set the bar so low for their candidates Maedhros May 2016 #66

And the awfulness of Trump makes Hillary's awfulness Ron Green May 2016 #67

How do you KNOW all this? How is this factual and not pure conjecture on your part? Hiraeth May 2016 #23

pretty much lapfog_1 May 2016 #28

I hope Bernie does NOT support her, and I don't think he will amborin May 2016 #37

He will. JRLeft May 2016 #39

No doubt. AFTER the primaries are over. N/t Triana May 2016 #40

I think Bernie will give her the most half-hearted LibDemAlways May 2016 #41

If he does it hurts her and there will be a price to pay after the election aka no power in the JRLeft May 2016 #42

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The party elite won't care. JRLeft May 2016 #49

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Of course they will care. His donor list can provide far more money than theirs. (nt) jeff47 May 2016 #51

I donate a penny to her or t he DNC. JRLeft May 2016 #52

Which makes his donor list even more important. jeff47 May 2016 #53

Doen't matter Robbins May 2016 #43

I understand your sentiment. JRLeft May 2016 #44

Listen Robbins May 2016 #45

She's a neoliberal/neocon. JRLeft May 2016 #46

Bernie may do what he does, I will never vote for a Clinton. JPnoodleman May 2016 #47

Of course he will eissa May 2016 #54

IF Hillary really wins, still a big IF, then Bernie will endorse Hillary andym May 2016 #57

She won't do none of those things. JRLeft May 2016 #58

Real question is does she want to do "any of those things" child care etc andym May 2016 #62

Yep. Neither is stupid or weak enough for any other outcome. n/t Orsino May 2016 #59

I'm a Bernie supporter, determined to campaign against corruption. No matter what. Joob May 2016 #60

And I am a realist nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #61

I don't agree. You are stating that without any other conditions pdsimdars May 2016 #63

Tthis is beyond debate. Sanders will OF COURSE back and campaign for Hillary. The question's whether Attorney in Texas May 2016 #64