2016 Postmortem

Raster

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4. And I am surprised that fellow Democrats are fine with the outright cheating...

Fri May 20, 2016, 02:38 PM

May 2016

...and manipulation just to make sure their candidate wins.

I'm gonna save that shitty little violin gif for ya... come Wednesday, November 9 we'll see if you still like the tune.

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I watched Hillary Clinton’s forces swipe Nevada: This is what the media’s not telling you [View all] Uncle Joe May 2016 OP

About the only thing that changed after the NV debacle, was some of Bernies supporters have switched tonyt53 May 2016 #1

^^^^ mikeysnot May 2016 #2

See, I'm was there and I'm still in Nevada kiva May 2016 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #72

I'm amazed Bernie supporters keep fanning the flames of Tantrumgate. oasis May 2016 #3

And I am surprised that fellow Democrats are fine with the outright cheating... Raster May 2016 #4

we're not fine with it bigtree May 2016 #10

Prove it. RichVRichV May 2016 #55

It's all about the team, baby. QC May 2016 #14

"Outright cheating"??? That's yet to be determined. What we do know oasis May 2016 #18

Disruption and rowdiness was only Clinton surrogate lies. HooptieWagon May 2016 #34

You mean when Sanders supporters Demsrule86 May 2016 #25

It was a lie before and it's a lie your stating now. RichVRichV May 2016 #57

There are way too many ocurrences sturnz0r May 2016 #92

Truth messes with Hillary's script... dchill May 2016 #126

You might want to lose that 'kindness and love' thing. kayakjohnny May 2016 #114

Haa! I completely agree, but I believe it's an HRC/Brock slogan panader0 May 2016 #117

It's like a hostile version of "kindness and love" Merryland May 2016 #153

I Myself Have Witnessed Plenty Of Bullshit Of This Sort By Dem Party Apparatchiks, But THIS Is... CorporatistNation May 2016 #91

... For two f'ing delegates... Ghost Dog May 2016 #131

So Bernie folks are using Trump lines now? oberliner May 2016 #148

A YhUGE Find... REAL Sniper Fire In Bosnia! CorporatistNation May 2016 #159

Some people never learn workinclasszero May 2016 #5

YUP!!! tonyt53 May 2016 #52

It's going to be funny when a crippled Sanders campaign wins in California. frylock May 2016 #56

It is going to be hilarious when he loses California CajunBlazer May 2016 #88

Stay in your lane, Cajun. frylock May 2016 #89

Your little donkey is going to be holding his head even lower after California CajunBlazer May 2016 #93

Lived. frylock May 2016 #108

Then you don't know California CajunBlazer May 2016 #121

What's Nate the Great's prediction? 91% chance of victory? 92? frylock May 2016 #124

What are you going to say after the California priamary? CajunBlazer May 2016 #157

See you on Super Tuesday... frylock May 2016 #158

What riot is that? HooptieWagon May 2016 #61

The famous one workinclasszero May 2016 #63

Oh, The Big Lie one. HooptieWagon May 2016 #65

No the one where Sanders people tried to steal workinclasszero May 2016 #73

Cool story, Bro. HooptieWagon May 2016 #78

Amazing. Ghost Dog May 2016 #132

That would be "Tantrumgate". nt oasis May 2016 #111

There was no riot in Nevada and you people fucking well know it. arikara May 2016 #116

Funny, I Work With A Bunch of Older White Women And They Cannot Stand Hillary! CorporatistNation May 2016 #119

People are apt to throw "tantrums" or get angry when they feel disenfranchised from their right Uncle Joe May 2016 #6

Protests after the stolen 2001 election, I can understand. oasis May 2016 #15

The record and truth require correcting, the corporate media conglomerates waged an all out Uncle Joe May 2016 #17

If "Bernie is not going to lay down for this", okay by me. oasis May 2016 #38

Yes. The more the Nevada video is played, the more votes she loses. reformist2 May 2016 #48

Let the MSM play the video 24/7. I'm willing to bet that voters oasis May 2016 #62

I guess quiet and nice makes it easier for the Koch Brothers to steal our money. snowy owl May 2016 #127

Did the rules get changed to favor Hillary or not? If a voice vote is unclear should the chair take think May 2016 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #36

Future convention delegates: Show up so there's no need to blow up. oasis May 2016 #42

I know, we should just acquiesce and absorb into the Borg that is the current Democratic Party. highprincipleswork May 2016 #83

It's not supposed to matter anymore because.. primnickel May 2016 #7

Your candidate lost the Nevada caucus, and he lost the nomination CajunBlazer May 2016 #96

Excellent piece cali May 2016 #8

+1. If only it were widely published. JudyM May 2016 #59

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #9

Clinton won. Sanders didn't show up. Deal with it. PUMA 2016!!! seabeyond May 2016 #11

Thanks for posting this Uncle Joe trudyco May 2016 #12

I'm surprised--it was the #2 story on Salon. kick MisterP May 2016 #29

she was having an out of the body experience bigtree May 2016 #13

What she's describing sounds to me like how party conventions work Recursion May 2016 #16

The chair steamrolled the delegates, didn't allow votes, purged Bernie delegates without a Uncle Joe May 2016 #21

Nah. Obama did the same thing in NV in 2008 and it was fine Recursion May 2016 #26

The chairperson ignored the voice vote and just slammed through new rules favoring Obama? think May 2016 #33

Yep. Recursion May 2016 #35

It's your claim. Own it. think May 2016 #37

I do own it. It's not my job to teach you this stuff, though. Recursion May 2016 #41

Because it didn't happen like you said. He had more delegates but the chair didn't change the rules think May 2016 #44

Neither of those happened in 2016 either Recursion May 2016 #47

So the person is lying in this article? Is that what you're saying? think May 2016 #49

Let's be kind and say that she was ignorant of the rules CajunBlazer May 2016 #86

Erin Bilbray was on the board. She claims the rules were changed after she voted on them think May 2016 #87

And she was shown to be wrong. The date change happened on a conference call she participated in Recursion May 2016 #112

I watched Erin give her account. I believe her. A minority report was refused to be heard. think May 2016 #125

But what would her father know? Mnpaul May 2016 #136

Thank you for this back ground information. It adds a lot to the picture /nt think May 2016 #137

Classic conservative tactic right here. frylock May 2016 #58

They were not "new rules." joshcryer May 2016 #51

"Lange and an executive board secretly voted on rules two weeks before the convention to give Lange think May 2016 #54

Yes, you can read the email exchange. joshcryer May 2016 #64

what email exchange are you referring to? think May 2016 #69

It's on Ralston reports. joshcryer May 2016 #71

"Once again the vast majority of those provisions date back to 2008 " think May 2016 #74

Sanders people were on the committee, you're just wrong about this. joshcryer May 2016 #75

The email discussion is with a Sander's supporter on the board complaining how it was handled. think May 2016 #77

Your candidate lost Nevada, and he lost the nomination CajunBlazer May 2016 #95

You're pathetic. I post a response about a member of the executive board claiming rules were changed think May 2016 #97

Who gives a rip? CajunBlazer May 2016 #100

You can't defend against the fact that they broke the rules. Sad and pathetic. think May 2016 #103

So.... CajunBlazer May 2016 #90

The chair recognised Hillary outnumbered Sanders. Tough breaks. procon May 2016 #67

but, but, but.... those voting "NO" yelled louder CajunBlazer May 2016 #85

POLITIFACT: Allegations of fraud and misconduct at Nevada Democratic convention unfounded Maven May 2016 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author FlatBaroque May 2016 #20

Jeez, all this for just a couple of delegates. Clinton zealotry is blind and off the rails. AtomicKitten May 2016 #22

LOL leftynyc May 2016 #24

This attempt at swift-boating Bernie has FAILED. Nice try, though. AtomicKitten May 2016 #43

Right leftynyc May 2016 #45

Sanders "supporters" keep bringing this stupid shit up. joshcryer May 2016 #40

Getting people/organizations to trash-talk Bernie was cynical strategy on Clinton's part. AtomicKitten May 2016 #46

Those "organizations/people" never trashed him. joshcryer May 2016 #50

Uh huh. AtomicKitten May 2016 #53

Why are you still visible? Trajan May 2016 #81

Oh good. joshcryer May 2016 #94

test stonecutter357 May 2016 #154

You mean, Sanders' efforts to subvert the Feb caucus results were thwarted. NT Adrahil May 2016 #23

You know, if you all would spend five minutes to learn how the Nevada caucus system work, kiva May 2016 #32

We know how it works Demsrule86 May 2016 #118

Plus 1. n/t itsrobert May 2016 #122

Prove it. RichVRichV May 2016 #60

Subvert is pretty extreme word to use. apnu May 2016 #123

Yes, they "swiped" a state by winning 52% of the delegates, as chosen by the voters Tarc May 2016 #27

Thank you for the heads-up, Uncle Joe! Octafish May 2016 #28

Thank you, Octafish and yes they are AWOL. Uncle Joe May 2016 #68

The convention was called to order at 9:00. joshcryer May 2016 #39

Salon. LOL. Hillary WON Nevada in February. Some Sanders supporters are upset they weren't able to Metric System May 2016 #66

The sad thing, is she can pull this crap and people will still vote for someone to take their voice onecaliberal May 2016 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #76

She can't swipe NV because she won the caucus on February 20. Very dishonest headline there. LonePirate May 2016 #79

Personally I believe it's a weird system in Nevada but Hillary lost the second county stage Uncle Joe May 2016 #80

+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #104

Not only is this piece dishonest but it's some of the most poorly written, overheated melodrama Number23 May 2016 #109

+1 ucrdem May 2016 #130

No Clinton did not. She won. I am watching Sanders be poor losers. seabeyond May 2016 #82

This sounds completely on the level, unlike the rest of the manufactured bullshit cleverly organized highprincipleswork May 2016 #84

Yep, its all rigged!!! CajunBlazer May 2016 #98

This isn't even about that. This is about setting up the rules of the competition and then sticking highprincipleswork May 2016 #99

Who gives a rip? CajunBlazer May 2016 #102

I'll get over it only when the Democratic Party acts like the Democratic Party again. highprincipleswork May 2016 #106

Thank you for the actual first hand account. Difficult to get the truth heard here anymore. EndElectoral May 2016 #101

Hillary WON the caucuses and MORE Hillary delegates came to the convention. CASE CLOSED! RBInMaine May 2016 #105

Recommend...Thanks! and... KoKo May 2016 #107

K & R Duppers May 2016 #110

Bernie lost Nevada Demsrule86 May 2016 #113

Rec 100! panader0 May 2016 #115

It's her first election season in Nevada... anigbrowl May 2016 #120

So you're judging her ability to perceive what she heard and saw? snowy owl May 2016 #128

This story has a familiar ring. nt ucrdem May 2016 #129

She basically admits to cheating on behalf of Sanders, no? ucrdem May 2016 #133

Allegations of fraud and misconduct at Nevada Democratic convention unfounded Gothmog May 2016 #134

Politifact: "We rate this claim False." ucrdem May 2016 #135

Politifact completely ignores Executive board member Erin Bilbray's testimony. Enjoy! think May 2016 #141

Okay, someone is quoted as saying her father tore up a ballot. And ... ? ucrdem May 2016 #142

The first link is to Erin giving her account from the floor of the convention think May 2016 #143

Lange was acting within her purview as chair. The Sanders delegates were simply outvoted. ucrdem May 2016 #144

You didn't watch video and you just dismiss her claims. Got it. Thanks. think May 2016 #145

She's a Sanders supporter. Her facebook: "What that means? Bernie won Nevada." No, he didn't. nt ucrdem May 2016 #146

The video is from the convention floor where she is being interviewed with live footage think May 2016 #149

Oh please. nt ucrdem May 2016 #151

OK. Don't watch the video and ignore an executive board member's claims think May 2016 #152

Yup. Agschmid May 2016 #138

So this person participated in a voice vote they had no reason to participate in? Agschmid May 2016 #139

Kicked and recommended to the Max! nt Enthusiast May 2016 #140

The author of this piece is a Code Pink activist oberliner May 2016 #147

"Her memoir, The Art of Misdiagnosis . . ." ucrdem May 2016 #150

did we really land on the moon? stonecutter357 May 2016 #155

Made my decision easier TrueDemVA May 2016 #156