2016 Postmortem

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127. because he's a person accused, he is presumed innocent

Reply to imagine2015 (Reply #64)

Fri May 20, 2016, 03:01 PM

May 2016

Just what will this revolution be?

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Male Hillary supporter assaulted a woman because she supports Bernie - THAT'S violence [View all] cui bono May 2016 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author FlatBaroque May 2016 #1

The Atlanta Police say the incident "did not rise to anything significant." pnwmom May 2016 #41

It would appear that they only arrested the actor. Ash_F May 2016 #123

You turned it into a racial thing? Buddyblazon May 2016 #152

self-delete (dupe) pnwmom May 2016 #69

K & R AzDar May 2016 #2

K&R GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #3

K&R liberal_at_heart May 2016 #4

nothing to see here folks, move along..move along.. pinskinny May 2016 #5

Hmmm...who is going to bring violence to the GE convention? passiveporcupine May 2016 #6

Yeah, the only actual incidents of violence I know about are from Hillary supporters. cui bono May 2016 #10

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #71

One trick pony. frylock May 2016 #80

Right. Because the legal presumption of innocence is a "trick" when claimed by black people. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #85

A noun, a verb, and a black guy. frylock May 2016 #87

Pretty much, yeah Scootaloo May 2016 #129

One of my favorite eps! frylock May 2016 #139

Why are you bringing race into this? That's really odd. cui bono May 2016 #92

In the US in 2016 race is STILL a factor. And you assumed his guilt in your OP headline. Why? n/t pnwmom May 2016 #95

Yes, but why did YOU bring race into THIS discussion? You SPECIFICALLY are bringing up his race. cui bono May 2016 #99

Because race is a factor that can't be ignored in any discussion of criminal justice. pnwmom May 2016 #103

Oh please, this is about him being a Hillary supporter who was ACTUALLY arrested for violence. cui bono May 2016 #117

Maybe it's not race, but being a Hillary supporter treestar May 2016 #133

No one has forgotten about that. But this is a real news item where as the chair being thrown cui bono May 2016 #140

I'm flexible. kiva May 2016 #102

Please post a picture of a Hillary supporter actually assaulting a Bernie supporter, pnwmom May 2016 #105

Moving the post? kiva May 2016 #112

Mere claim? Wow. You are unreal. cui bono May 2016 #142

Broctologists in disguise. dchill May 2016 #83

K&R for the mug shot Fumesucker May 2016 #7

He's got scratches on his face. Why assume the black guy is guilty when two couples pnwmom May 2016 #43

It's pathetic... imari362 May 2016 #89

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Won't work with me. imari362 May 2016 #98

that is pure shite and you damn well know it, despicable AntiBank May 2016 #106

Why does the OP assume his guilt? Why do so many others? pnwmom May 2016 #107

why do you inject race into it??? just sickening, do you have any shame?? AntiBank May 2016 #110

Because in the US there is different treatment of white and blacks under the criminal justice system pnwmom May 2016 #113

NO, you have tried to excuse goon behaviour by redirection into a non germane topic AntiBank May 2016 #116

He went after a woman and attacked her . TheFarS1de May 2016 #8

Oh, really. He's been convicted then? Or are you convicting him on the basis of his skin color? pnwmom May 2016 #44

I think it's just as possible the Sanders' supporters slammed Pierce like they have evry other Black Hoyt May 2016 #56

The fact that the police department says that the incident isn't significant says a LOT, I think. n/ pnwmom May 2016 #58

Hillary supporters have no problem spreading the outright LIE that chairs were thrown in Nevada AntiBank May 2016 #111

Chairs were thrown, check the article on Newsweek from May 18. George II May 2016 #160

blatant lie AntiBank May 2016 #162

Chairs were thrown, check the article on Newsweek from May 18. AlbertCat May 2016 #163

Sickening!!! QC May 2016 #9

So Bernie has to tell his supporters to stop the violence, when there was no violence. Joob May 2016 #11

I read here that all the major newspapers reported the Nevada "violence" as being true Art_from_Ark May 2016 #15

Exactly. cui bono May 2016 #19

Is it on video? nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #12

He's facing what are known in the parlance as, um, "criminal charges". Warren DeMontague May 2016 #14

Yes it is the hallway was cammed SwampG8r May 2016 #20

Yes, it happened in a hotel, it was on video nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #25

The police say the incident doesn't "rise to the level of anything significant." pnwmom May 2016 #74

Yes, there was no incident nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #94

And some here make jokes and excuses for it. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #13

And some decide the black guy -- with scratches on his face -- is guilty without a trial. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #46

the black guy frylock May 2016 #70

I am surprised at how low some will go for their prized pony. Rex May 2016 #135

Indeed it is shameful behavior. It's just as bad as the many, many Bernie thugs are.. Lil Missy May 2016 #16

Got any mugshots to go with that fiction? Bluenorthwest May 2016 #24

You got any police reports? Video maybe? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #26

I looked for a video but so far all I can find are claims from people here that they exist. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #82

Since videos of no chair throwing. To be precise one nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #124

Thugs, huh? Arugula Latte May 2016 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author TheSarcastinator May 2016 #29

Except the Hillary "thugs" are not fictitious and born out of the catapulting of propaganda. cui bono May 2016 #31

Pierce is not a thug and hasn't been found guilty of anything. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #66

I didn't call anyone a "thug". Notice the quotations cuz that's the term the Hillary supporter used. cui bono May 2016 #72

He's a fucking punk ass thug who hit a woman. frylock May 2016 #73

Has there been a trial? Why do the police say the incident didn't "rise to the level of pnwmom May 2016 #75

He hit a woman, and you're defending it. frylock May 2016 #77

I'm asking for evidence. I haven't seen anything but an "allegation" that the police say pnwmom May 2016 #78

You're asking for evidence? frylock May 2016 #84

Would it be wrong for him to have a lawyer too? treestar May 2016 #134

He has no rights in the court of public opinion. frylock May 2016 #143

Not regarding a criminal charge treestar May 2016 #150

It is also unproven. Just allegations that the Atlanta PD say don't "rise to the level of anything pnwmom May 2016 #68

You forgot something something black guy. frylock May 2016 #86

Sadly, this isn't the first person who has brought up race for no reason at all. cui bono May 2016 #144

There is a concerted effort on the part of Hillary supporters to paint Bernie supporters as racist. AlbertCat May 2016 #164

"I know you are but what am I?" is a children's tactic. And it's evidence-free. arcane1 May 2016 #118

The difference is you can't back that up, but we've got a mugshot up there^ liberalnarb May 2016 #147

Actual thuggish behavior. Apparently so much less interesting than provoked behavior U can lie about highprincipleswork May 2016 #17

{crickets} where's the Brock brigade? jack_krass May 2016 #18

Ah another Bernie supporter who thinks violence is only physical. apnu May 2016 #21

But it's you who is excusing an actual arrest causing assualt by a man on a woman. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #22

No I'm not. apnu May 2016 #30

Look, your entire act here is characterizing what you claim others said, no quotes, no nothing Bluenorthwest May 2016 #79

Ain't it wonderful Puglover May 2016 #159

Plenty of violence has been done to me by HRC supporters on this board nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #28

First off what bullying have I done? apnu May 2016 #33

Look I am talking from my own personal experience nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #38

I am very sorry that happened to you. apnu May 2016 #42

Well I'm getting lunch nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #128

Word. apnu May 2016 #131

Again to each their own nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #132

Indeed. It got very violent in the House of Reps yesterday... Luminous Animal May 2016 #32

Thank you! Violence isn't just physical. apnu May 2016 #34

lol reddread May 2016 #35

Do you have something constructive to say or are you a shit stirrer? apnu May 2016 #37

Hol-ee fuck. frylock May 2016 #76

pot meet kettle AntiBank May 2016 #119

Interesting AlbertCat May 2016 #165

I take it that you think protesting is a form of violence? If I jwirr May 2016 #49

You don't know what I think, don't put words in my mouth apnu May 2016 #55

I DID NOT say it was a revolution. I said it was a protest. jwirr May 2016 #67

How have you avoided my IL thus far? snort May 2016 #91

I could care less about your self important ignore list. apnu May 2016 #104

Incredible that this incident is swept under the rug while any Bernie supporter saying the b-word riderinthestorm May 2016 #23

Its shameful but not swept under the rug. apnu May 2016 #36

How do you know he will be found guilty? How do you know the other couple pnwmom May 2016 #40

I don't. Could be defensive wounds which are common in violent attacks apnu May 2016 #45

This isn't like the situation at the caucuses, where delegates were recorded on video. pnwmom May 2016 #50

There is video of Pierce. This happened in a casino, cameras everywhere riderinthestorm May 2016 #57

Link, please. That isn't what I heard. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #60

And that video shows that no chair throwing occurred. You're not making the point you think you are. cui bono May 2016 #145

This happened 4 days ago. Nary a word of condemnation from Hillary riderinthestorm May 2016 #47

WTF? apnu May 2016 #52

Pierce isn't a delegate. He doesn't represent Hillary. And there is NO EVIDENCE that he's guilty -- pnwmom May 2016 #54

There is video of Pierce. This happened in a casino, cameras everywhere riderinthestorm May 2016 #59

Where's the link? This article says it took place in the hallway of a hotel. pnwmom May 2016 #61

Why does Hillary support violence against women???!!! Why??? QC May 2016 #97

Why do you think we should assume the guilt of a black man without a trial pnwmom May 2016 #108

Why did you accept the discredited chair-throwing narrative QC May 2016 #115

Two couples got in an argument and you're AUTOMATICALLY deciding the black guy was guilty? pnwmom May 2016 #39

My objection is the back handed attack of what "real" violence is. apnu May 2016 #48

Just look through the responses here. Everyone is denouncing the African American and assuming pnwmom May 2016 #51

It is. I feel ill. (nt) apnu May 2016 #53

Well, when people make up a story about a chair being thrown then there is a distinction to be made. cui bono May 2016 #138

Bernie supporters love full on assumptions and conclusions treestar May 2016 #63

Jury results beevul May 2016 #93

Oh my, thanks treestar May 2016 #126

Really? Prove it. You're responding to a post made to me. cui bono May 2016 #137

No one said you were a racist treestar May 2016 #151

I agree with you. Race has nothing to do with this situation. cui bono May 2016 #158

And because he's a Black supporter of Hillary you assume he must be innocent? imagine2015 May 2016 #64

I assume the same thing I always do: INNOCENT till proven guilty. And no one has shown pnwmom May 2016 #65

Makes you wonder about this "revolution" treestar May 2016 #130

because he's a person accused, he is presumed innocent treestar May 2016 #127

In America we presume innocence before guilt. apnu May 2016 #141

He's the one who got arrested. But go ahead and keep spamming the board trying to make me racist. cui bono May 2016 #96

So what? Have we dispensed with the need for trials yet? He was arrested so he's guilty? pnwmom May 2016 #101

So you've NEVER seen an OP on here about someone getting arrested? Really? cui bono May 2016 #114

there doesn't seem to be much there about what the fight was about treestar May 2016 #62

And his ass is in jail...n/t asuhornets May 2016 #81

Right. Throw the black guy's ass in jail. No need for a trial. He must be guilty. pnwmom May 2016 #88

you already got this same BULLSHIT hidden once, looks like you were going for the daily double AntiBank May 2016 #122

Read through thread, I get it, we don't have to vote the same way for me to agree with AuntPatsy May 2016 #156

Just plain wrong no matter what. JonathanRackham May 2016 #100

Assuming it happened as the accuser claims. We don't know that it did. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #109

garbage: there were witnesses TheSarcastinator May 2016 #120

Are you working this hard to clear up the lies about the chair having been thrown? cui bono May 2016 #121

I am trying, the shillforce is strong on that one, Obi wan AntiBank May 2016 #125

The fact that Hillary has not come out and publicly condemned this tells me two things. jillan May 2016 #136

I don't think she's ok with violence against women vintx May 2016 #148

Thank you. liberalnarb May 2016 #146

Fish or cut bait. fleabiscuit May 2016 #149

And Bernie's Nevada office was shot into. Not a word from Hillary, but people demand Bernie merrily May 2016 #153

Was it Hillary's people who shot into his office? Nonhlanhla May 2016 #157

The difference? Hillary's surrogates lied repeatedly about violence at the Nevada convention. The merrily May 2016 #161

Admins-shut this thing down. People have become delirious looking for dirt. floriduck May 2016 #154

I would like to have heard the conversation that preceded this tirebiter May 2016 #155