2016 Postmortem

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102. Could you post any polls on that? tia

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So, let's say Hillary gets to the convention with a majority of PDs, and under pressure [View all] lunamagica May 2016 OP

Good question, I hope you get some thoughtful answers. nt eastwestdem May 2016 #1

Thank you. I hope so too lunamagica May 2016 #2

He wins because he doesn't need the south Skink May 2016 #3

I'm not sure if you are serious here...He doesn't need the south? PoC only live in the south? lunamagica May 2016 #8

Someone probably told him that. Btw, "skink," Hortensis May 2016 #76

I live in Ohio Demsrule86 May 2016 #79

Ahhh....a purist. Red Mountain May 2016 #92

Hate geography much? tia uponit7771 May 2016 #85

How Do Superdelegates Work? Here's What You Need to Know RogerM May 2016 #4

Bernie's hypocricy with the superdelegates is sad and probably reflective of the type of person he MariaThinks May 2016 #5

Very well stated. Thank you lunamagica May 2016 #17

+1. Hortensis May 2016 #77

I'm still holding out the DNC has made all this up to keep us engaged or something uponit7771 May 2016 #86

Since this all "Let's pretend" griffi94 May 2016 #6

I agree with everything you wrote. Thank you lunamagica May 2016 #23

But voters under 45 are the future of the Democratic Party. guillaumeb May 2016 #51

At the moment they're the present of the Democratic Party griffi94 May 2016 #54

That means nothing to me Demsrule86 May 2016 #80

Let's not say that. It won't happen. MineralMan May 2016 #7

I know that it won't happen. But I read post after post claiming it can happen lunamagica May 2016 #12

Its pure fantasy workinclasszero May 2016 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author lunamagica May 2016 #9

This is so silly. cali May 2016 #10

Yes it is. But some think it's possible. There's already a reply saying how it can happen lunamagica May 2016 #16

Not gonna happen. TDale313 May 2016 #11

Thank you for you reply. I agree with most of it, except for the end lunamagica May 2016 #18

+1. The only time they made a difference was to Hortensis May 2016 #78

The super delegates want to support the establishment candidate Txbluedog May 2016 #24

Oh, he'll win with PoC vs Trump Flighty McFlight May 2016 #13

PoC deserve respect. If they are disrespected in this way, and see that their votes don't have no lunamagica May 2016 #19

So you're saying democratic PoC would turn on the party? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #40

They might well come out in lower numbers, Hortensis May 2016 #82

Take that same statement and replace PoC with Independent voters RichVRichV May 2016 #61

ummm... no PoC (blacks, asians, Hispanics) outnumber dem leaning voters by far... not at all equal uponit7771 May 2016 #87

Even if it did happen (it won't), then no. He wouldn't win the GE. VulgarPoet May 2016 #14

Thanks for your reply. I sincerily hope Hillary proves you wrong. lunamagica May 2016 #20

So do I, but given what she's supported in the past, I'm not holding my breath. VulgarPoet May 2016 #36

Not going to ever happen SheenaR May 2016 #15

Then, party loyalty only applies to Clinton? lunamagica May 2016 #21

Not sure where you got that SheenaR May 2016 #47

I posted that because so many in the Sanders camp say they will never vote for her lunamagica May 2016 #65

I don't like Bernie Demsrule86 May 2016 #81

Hey, the superdelegates have nothing to do with the popular vote and they cannot be "pressured" procon May 2016 #22

LOL, I was ready to go on your first parageaph. Good post lunamagica May 2016 #27

Actually even those PoC will vote for him nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #25

He'd lose the general election. Badly. KingFlorez May 2016 #26

Under those circumstances, most will lunamagica May 2016 #28

Guess that answers the drum beat of "will Bernie supporters support HRC"? libdem4life May 2016 #30

Yeah, I think he'd do quite well! Jester Messiah May 2016 #29

I don't see this happening under these circumstaces. PoC and others who voted for her lunamagica May 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #59

AA have voted in numbers greater than 70%, for Hillary, and not just n The south lunamagica May 2016 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #89

I think you're spinning that too hard. Jester Messiah May 2016 #60

I bbelieve whoever has the most PDs should get the nomination lunamagica May 2016 #66

The dem indpendent voter numbers are NO WHERE near the PoC dem vote, that's delusional uponit7771 May 2016 #88

Under pressure? You mean Under the circumstances? Under the duress of The Investigation(s)? silvershadow May 2016 #31

So far, everyone has understood what I meant. I'm sorry to see you are struggling to understand lunamagica May 2016 #34

I oh know that. What do you think is forcing Bernie to stay in this long? nt silvershadow May 2016 #37

I don't kbnow, but my guess is that he believes the SDs will give it to him lunamagica May 2016 #67

PoC will vote for Bernie without hesitation if he's the nominee. BillZBubb May 2016 #33

So why haven't they so far? And why would they when they get dissed and disrespected this way? lunamagica May 2016 #41

There are plenty of PoC outside the south. BillZBubb May 2016 #42

PoC have been consisten in voting for Hillary in large numbers all over the country lunamagica May 2016 #43

Geez, I said that. Yes PoC all over the country vote. BillZBubb May 2016 #44

Yes, it was after they started to lose. And SDs have never gone against the will of the voters lunamagica May 2016 #46

Oh BULL FUCKIN SHIT!!! uponit7771 May 2016 #90

Native americans, latinos and pacific islanders already support Sanders. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #99

Could you post any polls on that? tia uponit7771 May 2016 #102

Good question mcar May 2016 #35

Meaningless speculation: what pressure would cause the SDs to shift? brooklynite May 2016 #38

For one, FBI pressure. BillZBubb May 2016 #45

NOT going to happen... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #39

Yes, I read that. The first of many who are sure to follow lunamagica May 2016 #70

No. Bernie has no chance for the GE. misterhighwasted May 2016 #48

I think this is his one and only foray into the Democratic party. I pretty much expec he will go bac lunamagica May 2016 #68

I agree. Apparently he's still a reg Indy in VT for his Senate seat , so misterhighwasted May 2016 #84

Democrats would be insane to nominate Sanders Gothmog May 2016 #50

I think that claiming an advantage based on polls six months away from the GE is absurd lunamagica May 2016 #71

Democrats won't hand the nomination to BS. He lost fair and square - and BIG. Squinch May 2016 #52

He lost in a YUUUGE way. Honestly, he doesn't have any reasonable claim to th nomination lunamagica May 2016 #72

If the person who has the most pledged delegates, and the Super Delegates ignored that, the still_one May 2016 #53

Thankfully, there's not a chance of it happening, because you are right, lunamagica May 2016 #73

I don't think that will happen. Maedhros May 2016 #55

Not a chance. The other side has been holding back, wait until the republicans unleash on him. George II May 2016 #56

I agree. Sanders has aa LOT of baggage, and he doesn't have neither the experience nor the lunamagica May 2016 #69

I think he personally would do OK with it Cosmocat May 2016 #101

It would depend entirely on why the superdelegates backed Bernie. winter is coming May 2016 #57

I sigled out PoC supporters because they,(Esp AA voters) have been targeted for voter suppression lunamagica May 2016 #63

Presuming he is in the GE by whatever scenario... apnu May 2016 #58

And clearly communicate the message that citizens votes don't count BainsBane May 2016 #62

Great analysys, BB. Spot on. lunamagica May 2016 #74

Your post is an outstanding analysis. greatlaurel May 2016 #96

POC wouldn't refuse to support Bernie in the fall Ken Burch May 2016 #75

Captain Kangaroo could get the nomination too The Second Stone May 2016 #83

PoC are Bernie's natural allies, I've never understood the tendency to support HRC... davidlynch May 2016 #91

Interesting question Red Mountain May 2016 #93

There's a major reality disconnect here: POC are not one thing. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #100

It would be a disaster. hrmjustin May 2016 #94

K&R workinclasszero May 2016 #95

Good points. greatlaurel May 2016 #97

The only scenario in which this would happen is if the SDs are convinced by extraordinary events lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #98