2016 Postmortem

Nye Bevan

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28. Barack Obama certainly had a lot of young and enthusiastic supporters.

Reply to jillan (Reply #22)

Fri May 20, 2016, 03:35 PM

May 2016

The contrast with Bernie was that he was actually able to attract significant support from nonwhites.

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If Hillary is such a great candidate, why isn't she filling [View all] BigBearJohn May 2016 OP

Maybe they noticed that it didn't work for Bernie, so why bother? The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #1

Yup AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #103

who'd want to stand in line mooseprime May 2016 #2

Great question ContinentalOp May 2016 #3

... Maven May 2016 #8

Bieber or Bust!!! YouDig May 2016 #9

Some say he's ineligible ContinentalOp May 2016 #11

The corporatist oligarchs must be desperate. They keep framing him for DUI and reckless driving. YouDig May 2016 #14

I have one word for you ContinentalOp May 2016 #36

Hillary has no fans at all. barrow-wight May 2016 #94

THE BEAVE!!!!!!!!! Dem2 May 2016 #57

I'm with Her itsrobert May 2016 #101

How is it you have been aboard DU since truedelphi May 2016 #107

I have over 5000 posts and only a few hundred maybe are from this year. ContinentalOp May 2016 #108

Why mess with a winning strategy? With smaller, more intimate rallies and meetings Arkansas Granny May 2016 #4

You just keep telling yourself that passiveporcupine May 2016 #46

Well lancer78 Jun 2016 #132

All the excitement of a funeral home viewing... Yurovsky May 2016 #47

Yup ISUGRADIA May 2016 #72

She's gotten way fewer votes than Obama in 2008... Yurovsky May 2016 #85

Not true...she won the popular vote Demsrule86 May 2016 #118

Untrue JFKcrat May 2016 #71

I doubt it - PAMod May 2016 #84

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #130

LOL-Keep telling yourself that-Bernie's winning! redstateblues May 2016 #104

#berniemath metroins May 2016 #126

supposedly, even her supporters don't like her amborin May 2016 #123

Supposedly, you can get high by smoking banana peels. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #124

You can't . TheFarS1de Jun 2016 #139

Lol. Agreed. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #140

Not enough cloths pins bahrbearian May 2016 #5

Because that doesn't make one a good candidate Recursion May 2016 #6

Maybe you should ask Obama? jillan May 2016 #21

Maybe you should remember logic 101? Recursion May 2016 #25

Here's the one I like pdsimdars May 2016 #56

Just sayin' what? rock May 2016 #82

There's a duzy, ouch! appalachiablue May 2016 #106

That "more votes" meme has been shown to be deceptive. There's a thorough post on it pdsimdars May 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors May 2016 #66

Really Recursion May 2016 #92

Here's why 50,000 rally attendees matter. lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #151

OK, but it's not actually translating into votes Recursion Jun 2016 #154

And you have a flux capacitor? lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #155

Give her credit, Fuddnik May 2016 #7

^^THAT^^ onecaliberal May 2016 #64

Not saying he did... but he did. Ino May 2016 #121

Looks like she picked a better strategy hack89 May 2016 #10

In other words, you've got nothing. BigBearJohn May 2016 #12

She didn't do rallies. We all know that hack89 May 2016 #15

I think its more like madokie May 2016 #38

So every state's results are questionable? hack89 May 2016 #48

At this point, Hack89 madokie May 2016 #51

Another bitter dead ender I see.nt hack89 May 2016 #81

Exactly... Yurovsky May 2016 #50

She didn't have to do any work to get the voters she has now passiveporcupine May 2016 #53

Many Bernie supporters are young people and students who have plenty of time on their hands Nye Bevan May 2016 #13

And Obama supporters were not? jillan May 2016 #22

Barack Obama certainly had a lot of young and enthusiastic supporters. Nye Bevan May 2016 #28

What a f*ing racist post. jillan May 2016 #34

Wait..... pointing out that Bernie has not been able to connect with racial minorities, Nye Bevan May 2016 #44

I have been to 2 Bernie rallies. Both of them were a mixture of people, young and old. jillan May 2016 #49

So you consider this NY Times article to be "racist"? Nye Bevan May 2016 #52

They're too busy voting for her TwilightZone May 2016 #16

I wouldn't wait in line to see anyone, and I hate crowds. cwydro May 2016 #17

Because we have...jobs? Family? Other commitments? Tarc May 2016 #18

you find PLENTY of time to play here. nt grasswire May 2016 #27

You don't need to wait 8 hours in line to post on DU (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #45

And also, you don't go to your usual computer station truedelphi May 2016 #114

Yea, with this handy-dandy contraption called a "smartphone", my dear silly grasswire Tarc May 2016 #87

It's a different demographic. My parents, for instance (and all of their friends), would never in a anotherproletariat May 2016 #19

The people who go to Bernie rallies are not just young people. That has been documented. pdsimdars May 2016 #58

Hey everybody! Are you listening to all these answers? BigBearJohn May 2016 #20

Oh you calling for backup? n/t asuhornets May 2016 #23

Honestly, I don't see most of them. I started using ignore and have not looked back. pdsimdars May 2016 #59

I wonder if Berners would trade some of his crowds for some of her delegates? CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #24

Oh have no worry Hillaritès. If the establishment could ramrod a moron BigBearJohn May 2016 #29

It was a good try. Bernie just came up a little short. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #39

If Bernie's such a great candidate why is HRC beating him by 3.5 million popular votes? WI_DEM May 2016 #26

That margin disenfranchises caucus states and independent voters in closed primary states. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #30

Not according to this article: WI_DEM May 2016 #42

blah, blah, blah, excuse, excuse, excuse. . . . . . those vote totals mean almost nothing pdsimdars May 2016 #65

See below BigBearJohn May 2016 #40

She isn't. Go read the post about that vote count. pdsimdars May 2016 #61

You might want to correct that WA has 7.2 million population, not 72 million. PufPuf23 May 2016 #76

And lost the primary handily. mythology Jun 2016 #157

Rich folks have been paying a fortune for years to hear her speak!! Jarqui May 2016 #31

I know, isn't that funny. The anointed one who was supposed to have SO MUCH MONEY pdsimdars May 2016 #69

It confounds me as well. But maybe I'm a hypocrite there because I'm Jarqui May 2016 #91

Here's an interesting graphic. pdsimdars May 2016 #105

that is interesting marions ghost Jun 2016 #141

You don't get to see her for free, and not many people can afford the $2,000 entrance fee n/t arcane1 May 2016 #32

This is reaching. Come on. He loved Big Brother May 2016 #33

Well said! tonyt53 May 2016 #37

And Obama won as I recall. BigBearJohn May 2016 #43

Yes, Obama won, but he didn't start off with big rallies all american girl May 2016 #125

It's not about good or bad candidate, it's about candidates who inspire the voters pdsimdars May 2016 #73

Because she isn't going to only where her cheerleaders can get to without their mothers driving them tonyt53 May 2016 #35

I think she has... Mike Nelson May 2016 #41

Personally .... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #77

We actually go out and vote and show up at state conventions. ;) boston bean May 2016 #55

Her supporters make their voices heard where it counts - in the voting booth. Metric System May 2016 #60

There aren't that many hedge fund managers in the world Depaysement May 2016 #62

even if one hedge fund voter has $10M to donate, they still only have 1 vote Sheepshank May 2016 #68

How's filling those arenas working out for Bernie and the final tally? Sheepshank May 2016 #63

Hillary's campaign focuses on "listening" to individual voters. nt oasis May 2016 #67

You're right. She listens to her big donors and noone else. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #89

She prefers one on one contact with folks from all levels of society. oasis May 2016 #90

Hillary doesn't spend any time whatsoever with anyone who doesn't write a large check to her. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #97

She's been speaking to folks in shops, small businesses oasis May 2016 #98

Back to this again? It must be Friday. NurseJackie May 2016 #70

Sanders is losing because his strategy to talk at people failed KingFlorez May 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #75

Very true, why isn't Sanders three million more votes than Hillary and he Thinkingabout May 2016 #79

Because Hillary does not campaign that way. apnu May 2016 #78

Monster Truck Jams, wrestling, gun shows, Trump, etc., fill venues with white people too. Hoyt May 2016 #80

She's filling voting booths where the real WhiteTara May 2016 #83

See what last Saturday's Saturday Night Live's opening skit truedelphi May 2016 #109

Okay. Now we are using comedy shows as WhiteTara May 2016 #113

I've supported her twice Codeine May 2016 #86

Why didn't FDR pack 'em in like the Nuremberg rallies? VOX May 2016 #88

Most of her voters wouldn't have time. barrow-wight May 2016 #93

Maybe they should try voting. Demsrule86 May 2016 #95

+1 oasis May 2016 #99

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #96

She's been too busy getting them to actually vote. JoePhilly May 2016 #100

Big rallies cost money, now that Sanders funds is getting low and since Hillary has been on the Thinkingabout May 2016 #102

Expensive fundraisers cost money too democrattotheend May 2016 #111

And these same fund raisers has made its way to Sanders when he was running for Senator, Hillary Thinkingabout May 2016 #112

Because she doesn't excite and inspire that way democrattotheend May 2016 #110

It's called election fraud. 99Forever May 2016 #115

That is what sore losers always say Demsrule86 May 2016 #119

She's not famous for soaring oratory. She's respected for being smart ecstatic May 2016 #116

I guess more people voted... Demsrule86 May 2016 #117

. baldguy May 2016 #120

Simple answer. Her fans aren't interested in what she says, only in her status. JudyM May 2016 #122

She does not need the rah rah stadium filled. She has 3M popular vote advantage, now add WA riversedge May 2016 #127

The better question is if Sanders is a great candidate who has big rallies and he is unable Thinkingabout May 2016 #128

Because they have better things to do? Proud Public Servant May 2016 #129

Because she is a terrible lancer78 Jun 2016 #131

Her campaign strategy has been smaller venues with more one on one connection. Lucinda Jun 2016 #133

yes one on one connections like telling azurnoir Jun 2016 #134

The two things are not in conflict. Common sense changes to gun laws aren't in any way Lucinda Jun 2016 #136

ummmhmmm I'm sure she thoroughly explained that to both crowds azurnoir Jun 2016 #138

Yeah right -- that and the behemoth machine called the democratic ESTABLISHMENT BigBearJohn Jun 2016 #144

If Bernie is such a great candidate, why isn't he filling barrow-wight Jun 2016 #135

He would be if voting wasn't being suppressed BigBearJohn Jun 2016 #145

Lol! barrow-wight Jun 2016 #146

You should be laughing, you got the best candidate money can buy BigBearJohn Jun 2016 #147

Lol barrow-wight Jun 2016 #148

Rich people don't go to political conventions. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #137

Bingo marions ghost Jun 2016 #142

Its called jimw81 Jun 2016 #143

Here's the stadium Bernie filled in my town last week: ucrdem Jun 2016 #149

Different sort of candidate. Orsino Jun 2016 #150

Hillary voters don't need to hear reassuring talking points. We're more confident than that. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #152

Crowds are not votes: as we have seen: winning elections is very hard work with lewebley3 Jun 2016 #153

super large venues and stadiums cost big bucks to put on BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #156

Because she realized that having huge rallies wasn't an effective tactic in 2008 mythology Jun 2016 #158