2016 Postmortem

RichVRichV

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55. Prove it.

Fri May 20, 2016, 03:53 PM

May 2016

Prove your claim that there was any attempt by Bernie, his campaign, or his supporters to steal delegates in Nevada. There was no stolen delegates by anyone supporting Bernie. Hillary delegates failed to show up and register at the Clark county convention. That is all that happened.

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I watched Hillary Clinton’s forces swipe Nevada: This is what the media’s not telling you [View all] Uncle Joe May 2016 OP

About the only thing that changed after the NV debacle, was some of Bernies supporters have switched tonyt53 May 2016 #1

^^^^ mikeysnot May 2016 #2

See, I'm was there and I'm still in Nevada kiva May 2016 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #72

I'm amazed Bernie supporters keep fanning the flames of Tantrumgate. oasis May 2016 #3

And I am surprised that fellow Democrats are fine with the outright cheating... Raster May 2016 #4

we're not fine with it bigtree May 2016 #10

Prove it. RichVRichV May 2016 #55

It's all about the team, baby. QC May 2016 #14

"Outright cheating"??? That's yet to be determined. What we do know oasis May 2016 #18

Disruption and rowdiness was only Clinton surrogate lies. HooptieWagon May 2016 #34

You mean when Sanders supporters Demsrule86 May 2016 #25

It was a lie before and it's a lie your stating now. RichVRichV May 2016 #57

There are way too many ocurrences sturnz0r May 2016 #92

Truth messes with Hillary's script... dchill May 2016 #126

You might want to lose that 'kindness and love' thing. kayakjohnny May 2016 #114

Haa! I completely agree, but I believe it's an HRC/Brock slogan panader0 May 2016 #117

It's like a hostile version of "kindness and love" Merryland May 2016 #153

I Myself Have Witnessed Plenty Of Bullshit Of This Sort By Dem Party Apparatchiks, But THIS Is... CorporatistNation May 2016 #91

... For two f'ing delegates... Ghost Dog May 2016 #131

So Bernie folks are using Trump lines now? oberliner May 2016 #148

A YhUGE Find... REAL Sniper Fire In Bosnia! CorporatistNation May 2016 #159

Some people never learn workinclasszero May 2016 #5

YUP!!! tonyt53 May 2016 #52

It's going to be funny when a crippled Sanders campaign wins in California. frylock May 2016 #56

It is going to be hilarious when he loses California CajunBlazer May 2016 #88

Stay in your lane, Cajun. frylock May 2016 #89

Your little donkey is going to be holding his head even lower after California CajunBlazer May 2016 #93

Lived. frylock May 2016 #108

Then you don't know California CajunBlazer May 2016 #121

What's Nate the Great's prediction? 91% chance of victory? 92? frylock May 2016 #124

What are you going to say after the California priamary? CajunBlazer May 2016 #157

See you on Super Tuesday... frylock May 2016 #158

What riot is that? HooptieWagon May 2016 #61

The famous one workinclasszero May 2016 #63

Oh, The Big Lie one. HooptieWagon May 2016 #65

No the one where Sanders people tried to steal workinclasszero May 2016 #73

Cool story, Bro. HooptieWagon May 2016 #78

Amazing. Ghost Dog May 2016 #132

That would be "Tantrumgate". nt oasis May 2016 #111

There was no riot in Nevada and you people fucking well know it. arikara May 2016 #116

Funny, I Work With A Bunch of Older White Women And They Cannot Stand Hillary! CorporatistNation May 2016 #119

People are apt to throw "tantrums" or get angry when they feel disenfranchised from their right Uncle Joe May 2016 #6

Protests after the stolen 2001 election, I can understand. oasis May 2016 #15

The record and truth require correcting, the corporate media conglomerates waged an all out Uncle Joe May 2016 #17

If "Bernie is not going to lay down for this", okay by me. oasis May 2016 #38

Yes. The more the Nevada video is played, the more votes she loses. reformist2 May 2016 #48

Let the MSM play the video 24/7. I'm willing to bet that voters oasis May 2016 #62

I guess quiet and nice makes it easier for the Koch Brothers to steal our money. snowy owl May 2016 #127

Did the rules get changed to favor Hillary or not? If a voice vote is unclear should the chair take think May 2016 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #36

Future convention delegates: Show up so there's no need to blow up. oasis May 2016 #42

I know, we should just acquiesce and absorb into the Borg that is the current Democratic Party. highprincipleswork May 2016 #83

It's not supposed to matter anymore because.. primnickel May 2016 #7

Your candidate lost the Nevada caucus, and he lost the nomination CajunBlazer May 2016 #96

Excellent piece cali May 2016 #8

+1. If only it were widely published. JudyM May 2016 #59

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #9

Clinton won. Sanders didn't show up. Deal with it. PUMA 2016!!! seabeyond May 2016 #11

Thanks for posting this Uncle Joe trudyco May 2016 #12

I'm surprised--it was the #2 story on Salon. kick MisterP May 2016 #29

she was having an out of the body experience bigtree May 2016 #13

What she's describing sounds to me like how party conventions work Recursion May 2016 #16

The chair steamrolled the delegates, didn't allow votes, purged Bernie delegates without a Uncle Joe May 2016 #21

Nah. Obama did the same thing in NV in 2008 and it was fine Recursion May 2016 #26

The chairperson ignored the voice vote and just slammed through new rules favoring Obama? think May 2016 #33

Yep. Recursion May 2016 #35

It's your claim. Own it. think May 2016 #37

I do own it. It's not my job to teach you this stuff, though. Recursion May 2016 #41

Because it didn't happen like you said. He had more delegates but the chair didn't change the rules think May 2016 #44

Neither of those happened in 2016 either Recursion May 2016 #47

So the person is lying in this article? Is that what you're saying? think May 2016 #49

Let's be kind and say that she was ignorant of the rules CajunBlazer May 2016 #86

Erin Bilbray was on the board. She claims the rules were changed after she voted on them think May 2016 #87

And she was shown to be wrong. The date change happened on a conference call she participated in Recursion May 2016 #112

I watched Erin give her account. I believe her. A minority report was refused to be heard. think May 2016 #125

But what would her father know? Mnpaul May 2016 #136

Thank you for this back ground information. It adds a lot to the picture /nt think May 2016 #137

Classic conservative tactic right here. frylock May 2016 #58

They were not "new rules." joshcryer May 2016 #51

"Lange and an executive board secretly voted on rules two weeks before the convention to give Lange think May 2016 #54

Yes, you can read the email exchange. joshcryer May 2016 #64

what email exchange are you referring to? think May 2016 #69

It's on Ralston reports. joshcryer May 2016 #71

"Once again the vast majority of those provisions date back to 2008 " think May 2016 #74

Sanders people were on the committee, you're just wrong about this. joshcryer May 2016 #75

The email discussion is with a Sander's supporter on the board complaining how it was handled. think May 2016 #77

Your candidate lost Nevada, and he lost the nomination CajunBlazer May 2016 #95

You're pathetic. I post a response about a member of the executive board claiming rules were changed think May 2016 #97

Who gives a rip? CajunBlazer May 2016 #100

You can't defend against the fact that they broke the rules. Sad and pathetic. think May 2016 #103

So.... CajunBlazer May 2016 #90

The chair recognised Hillary outnumbered Sanders. Tough breaks. procon May 2016 #67

but, but, but.... those voting "NO" yelled louder CajunBlazer May 2016 #85

POLITIFACT: Allegations of fraud and misconduct at Nevada Democratic convention unfounded Maven May 2016 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author FlatBaroque May 2016 #20

Jeez, all this for just a couple of delegates. Clinton zealotry is blind and off the rails. AtomicKitten May 2016 #22

LOL leftynyc May 2016 #24

This attempt at swift-boating Bernie has FAILED. Nice try, though. AtomicKitten May 2016 #43

Right leftynyc May 2016 #45

Sanders "supporters" keep bringing this stupid shit up. joshcryer May 2016 #40

Getting people/organizations to trash-talk Bernie was cynical strategy on Clinton's part. AtomicKitten May 2016 #46

Those "organizations/people" never trashed him. joshcryer May 2016 #50

Uh huh. AtomicKitten May 2016 #53

Why are you still visible? Trajan May 2016 #81

Oh good. joshcryer May 2016 #94

test stonecutter357 May 2016 #154

You mean, Sanders' efforts to subvert the Feb caucus results were thwarted. NT Adrahil May 2016 #23

You know, if you all would spend five minutes to learn how the Nevada caucus system work, kiva May 2016 #32

We know how it works Demsrule86 May 2016 #118

Plus 1. n/t itsrobert May 2016 #122

Prove it. RichVRichV May 2016 #60

Subvert is pretty extreme word to use. apnu May 2016 #123

Yes, they "swiped" a state by winning 52% of the delegates, as chosen by the voters Tarc May 2016 #27

Thank you for the heads-up, Uncle Joe! Octafish May 2016 #28

Thank you, Octafish and yes they are AWOL. Uncle Joe May 2016 #68

The convention was called to order at 9:00. joshcryer May 2016 #39

Salon. LOL. Hillary WON Nevada in February. Some Sanders supporters are upset they weren't able to Metric System May 2016 #66

The sad thing, is she can pull this crap and people will still vote for someone to take their voice onecaliberal May 2016 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #76

She can't swipe NV because she won the caucus on February 20. Very dishonest headline there. LonePirate May 2016 #79

Personally I believe it's a weird system in Nevada but Hillary lost the second county stage Uncle Joe May 2016 #80

+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #104

Not only is this piece dishonest but it's some of the most poorly written, overheated melodrama Number23 May 2016 #109

+1 ucrdem May 2016 #130

No Clinton did not. She won. I am watching Sanders be poor losers. seabeyond May 2016 #82

This sounds completely on the level, unlike the rest of the manufactured bullshit cleverly organized highprincipleswork May 2016 #84

Yep, its all rigged!!! CajunBlazer May 2016 #98

This isn't even about that. This is about setting up the rules of the competition and then sticking highprincipleswork May 2016 #99

Who gives a rip? CajunBlazer May 2016 #102

I'll get over it only when the Democratic Party acts like the Democratic Party again. highprincipleswork May 2016 #106

Thank you for the actual first hand account. Difficult to get the truth heard here anymore. EndElectoral May 2016 #101

Hillary WON the caucuses and MORE Hillary delegates came to the convention. CASE CLOSED! RBInMaine May 2016 #105

Recommend...Thanks! and... KoKo May 2016 #107

K & R Duppers May 2016 #110

Bernie lost Nevada Demsrule86 May 2016 #113

Rec 100! panader0 May 2016 #115

It's her first election season in Nevada... anigbrowl May 2016 #120

So you're judging her ability to perceive what she heard and saw? snowy owl May 2016 #128

This story has a familiar ring. nt ucrdem May 2016 #129

She basically admits to cheating on behalf of Sanders, no? ucrdem May 2016 #133

Allegations of fraud and misconduct at Nevada Democratic convention unfounded Gothmog May 2016 #134

Politifact: "We rate this claim False." ucrdem May 2016 #135

Politifact completely ignores Executive board member Erin Bilbray's testimony. Enjoy! think May 2016 #141

Okay, someone is quoted as saying her father tore up a ballot. And ... ? ucrdem May 2016 #142

The first link is to Erin giving her account from the floor of the convention think May 2016 #143

Lange was acting within her purview as chair. The Sanders delegates were simply outvoted. ucrdem May 2016 #144

You didn't watch video and you just dismiss her claims. Got it. Thanks. think May 2016 #145

She's a Sanders supporter. Her facebook: "What that means? Bernie won Nevada." No, he didn't. nt ucrdem May 2016 #146

The video is from the convention floor where she is being interviewed with live footage think May 2016 #149

Oh please. nt ucrdem May 2016 #151

OK. Don't watch the video and ignore an executive board member's claims think May 2016 #152

Yup. Agschmid May 2016 #138

So this person participated in a voice vote they had no reason to participate in? Agschmid May 2016 #139

Kicked and recommended to the Max! nt Enthusiast May 2016 #140

The author of this piece is a Code Pink activist oberliner May 2016 #147

"Her memoir, The Art of Misdiagnosis . . ." ucrdem May 2016 #150

did we really land on the moon? stonecutter357 May 2016 #155

Made my decision easier TrueDemVA May 2016 #156