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44. If you read closely, it has to do with
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:54 PM
May 2016

Last edited Mon May 23, 2016, 03:31 PM - Edit history (1)

a provision in the state election law that lets each recognized political party (there are 6 of them in California) decide whether to allow No Party Preference voters and how clearly the county election officials make that information known to NP voters. To vote in the Democratic, Libertarian, or American Independent primaries a Non-Partisan voter (what the media likes to call "Independents", although that term is misleading as we have a valid American Independent Party) has to request one of those ballots when they vote. Now, my county was pro-active and sent all NP voters a card back in March telling them to return it by a certain time if they wanted a Dem, Lib or A-I ballot, otherwise they'd get the default Non-Partisan one; apparently not all 58 counties did this. This information is also supposed to be on the sample ballot that all registered voters are supposed to get, and as I read the press release about the lawsuit, the basic problem the plaintiffs have is that in some counties the information may be incomplete or hard to understand. All of this so far pertains to mail voters, who are a significant fraction of the electorate. The lawsuit is asking for a do-over for people who sent back what they now say is the wrong ballot, although how they distinguish the "wrong" ones from the ones sent by people who followed the instructions in the first place they don't say.

For in-person polling, voters who are not registered with a party can request a partisan ballot at their polling place. But they have to ask for it, or they get the non-partisan one (there are lot more things to vote for than president here). There have been complaints that poll workers were being given incorrect information about this: I have not followed up to see whether this has been addressed, but it can be fixed without changing any deadlines.

TL;DR: The California Democratic party is allowing No Party Preference voters to vote in their presidential primary, but it requires a little work and reading the instructions. The lawsuit says this is hard and confusing even though it's the process that was used in 2008 and 2012, and the information can be found at the Secretary of State's website.

ETA: If voters register as Democrats the above doesn't apply: they will get the Democratic primary ballot by default. They still have to register by COB today, though.

Even though... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #1
because sanders the fake democrat wants everything changed to meet his needs as an independent nt msongs May 2016 #2
Boy is that the truth. LisaM May 2016 #10
No, because once more there are election shenanigans, with the state training workers incorrectly to highprincipleswork May 2016 #39
b.s. DLCWIdem May 2016 #74
Read the news highprincipleswork May 2016 #82
Better a fake democrat and a real progressive than hilly, the real democrat and fake progressive cali May 2016 #46
That FAKE talking point is old Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #83
sob sob... Demsrule86 May 2016 #3
This and the other lawsuits filed by Sanders have not been well pled Gothmog May 2016 #4
^^^^ mikeysnot May 2016 #5
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious May 2016 #48
It's a "Leave". JimDandy May 2016 #54
Close vote Capt. Obvious May 2016 #55
And said thing is the loser who altered it is so biaed TimPlo May 2016 #79
You are going to have to elaborate mikeysnot May 2016 #89
Ugh. Wrong result cali May 2016 #61
I know mikeysnot May 2016 #86
A BIIIIIGGGGGG FU mikeysnot May 2016 #90
Entitlement. NCTraveler May 2016 #6
With all the money Bernie has raised, you would think that he would have had campaign staff Arkansas Granny May 2016 #7
This is why all primaries should be closed, then there's no grey area Tarc May 2016 #8
Or, why the primaies should be open. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #18
Too open to Republican or Green ratfuckery Tarc May 2016 #49
Wouldn't that be true for all party primaries if they were open. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #51
My opinion is the one that supports those who have actually worked for and helped the party Tarc May 2016 #52
So, only party apparatchiks should vote and hold power. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #64
Anybody can join the party anigbrowl May 2016 #68
your words, not mine. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #80
Party members, yes. Tarc May 2016 #85
Because they don't know how to use calendars? randome May 2016 #9
Thank you. I got my ass on the phone and online and even went in twice to R B Garr May 2016 #11
It is quite simple to get registered or change registration here KingFlorez May 2016 #12
Can you just imagine the riots if Hillary had requested (SUED) a whole state, especially R B Garr May 2016 #13
Trying to change election rules just so more people can vote in an election. Defeat that lawsuit! imagine2015 May 2016 #17
Yes, change the rules for Bernie and Bernie only! R B Garr May 2016 #19
Really? So with a rule change people will not be permitted to vote for Hilllary! Link please. imagine2015 May 2016 #25
lol, yes, the Bernie supporter who filed this lawsuit is also concerned about Hillary. R B Garr May 2016 #31
That is not what it's about Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #71
Yes, but Andy823 May 2016 #21
+1000. Absolutely. I hear you about those two, as well. Suing after you are the one R B Garr May 2016 #41
If you really want to know you should read the LA Times article about it. Never thought of that? imagine2015 May 2016 #14
That information was known WEEKS ago. Weeks. This is just to coddle Bernie R B Garr May 2016 #15
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #22
The time to change the rules is prior to the process--NOT during the upcoming primary. riversedge May 2016 #27
Tell that to the Roberta Lange. -none May 2016 #58
This is so transparently laughable. You couldn't care less R B Garr May 2016 #28
months ago DLCWIdem May 2016 #35
So everything needs to be upended ... salinsky May 2016 #40
I think it's become Andy823 May 2016 #16
Ya think Bernie should get on his knees and beg Wall Street for money? imagine2015 May 2016 #24
Nah. He does every time he sues-send you and his donors an email. riversedge May 2016 #29
Trump would call that a pretty picture. nt Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #72
It's setting things up so they can scream ELECTION FRAUD after Hillary defeats Sanders MohRokTah May 2016 #20
I agree Andy823 May 2016 #23
Embarassingly that's been DU's m.o. since it was created. MadDAsHell May 2016 #34
Obviously the irregularities of the 2000 election lead directly to G.W. Bush being in office. MohRokTah May 2016 #59
I'm 100% with you on 2000. But I'm saying that that election seems to have made "it was stolen"... MadDAsHell May 2016 #63
I think you're mostly right. MohRokTah May 2016 #66
I think the last day to register in CA is today. riversedge May 2016 #26
Any rules they do not like it is hurry up and file a law suit, this effort could easily be place Thinkingabout May 2016 #30
Have you read the lawsuit? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #32
In LA, voters are receiving robocalls ... salinsky May 2016 #53
And the San Diego registrar is nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #60
Through the Looking Glass -- Democrats sounding like Republicans Armstead May 2016 #33
A Republican tactic: CrowCityDem May 2016 #38
Don't bother -- You are making a Republican argument Armstead May 2016 #42
I'm saying changing IN THE MIDDLE is wrong. We can complain all we want in between cycles. CrowCityDem May 2016 #56
I' am going to laugh in November nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #62
Results... Major Nikon May 2016 #75
Thanks I see the jury did not see this is as an issue nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #76
And what if Hillary wins? Txbluedog May 2016 #84
Yep. The comments here sound like comments re: the butterfly ballot and hanging chads. Hassin Bin Sober May 2016 #45
If you pay attention, because the state is actually training workers incorrectly to hand out highprincipleswork May 2016 #36
He's grandstanding. procon May 2016 #37
Unfortunately, his entire campaign appears to have been ... salinsky May 2016 #43
Awwwwww...Bernie would be so disappointed to hear you say that Armstead May 2016 #47
If you read closely, it has to do with Retrograde May 2016 #44
because they have no idea what they are doing still_one May 2016 #50
Nothing better to do, I guess. MineralMan May 2016 #57
The deadline to register is today--that was pretty generous. Starry Messenger May 2016 #65
"unless you want the state registrar to just read your mind. " Retrograde May 2016 #78
I got my driver's license at that DMV, years ago. Starry Messenger May 2016 #81
Why are they suing??? MohRokTah May 2016 #67
Let's all say it together...because the system is rigged... nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #69
Because they are grasping at straws. Beacool May 2016 #73
Yeah, pretty much sums up most of them. tonyt53 May 2016 #77
If they really thought there was an issue, they should have filed suit in January. baldguy May 2016 #87
People were saying months and months ago that they'd better get folks registered. bravenak May 2016 #88
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