2016 Postmortem

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129. Because they have better things to do?

Wed May 25, 2016, 07:39 AM

May 2016

I am in many ways the right demographic for Hillary, although i'm a Bernie supporter (50-something, lifelong Dem, upper-middle class). My friends and family are in a similar demographic, and indeed are Hillary supporters, some quite passionately so.

But there's no way I'm going to a rally for Bernie, and there's no way they're going to a rally for Hillary. We're busy people with plenty of access to information (and YouTube), and we've all been around long enough to know that political change doesn't come from filling stadiums full of people (Nuremberg notwithstanding). Rallies mean nothing, change nothing, and are generally a huge pain in the ass to attend (hell, I won't even go see my favorite bands in arenas, and I love music way more than I love politics).

Long story short: I'm too old for that shit. And "too old for that shit" seems to describe the Hillary demographic to a T.

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If Hillary is such a great candidate, why isn't she filling [View all] BigBearJohn May 2016 OP

Maybe they noticed that it didn't work for Bernie, so why bother? The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #1

Yup AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #103

who'd want to stand in line mooseprime May 2016 #2

Great question ContinentalOp May 2016 #3

... Maven May 2016 #8

Bieber or Bust!!! YouDig May 2016 #9

Some say he's ineligible ContinentalOp May 2016 #11

The corporatist oligarchs must be desperate. They keep framing him for DUI and reckless driving. YouDig May 2016 #14

I have one word for you ContinentalOp May 2016 #36

Hillary has no fans at all. barrow-wight May 2016 #94

THE BEAVE!!!!!!!!! Dem2 May 2016 #57

I'm with Her itsrobert May 2016 #101

How is it you have been aboard DU since truedelphi May 2016 #107

I have over 5000 posts and only a few hundred maybe are from this year. ContinentalOp May 2016 #108

Why mess with a winning strategy? With smaller, more intimate rallies and meetings Arkansas Granny May 2016 #4

You just keep telling yourself that passiveporcupine May 2016 #46

Well lancer78 Jun 2016 #132

All the excitement of a funeral home viewing... Yurovsky May 2016 #47

Yup ISUGRADIA May 2016 #72

She's gotten way fewer votes than Obama in 2008... Yurovsky May 2016 #85

Not true...she won the popular vote Demsrule86 May 2016 #118

Untrue JFKcrat May 2016 #71

I doubt it - PAMod May 2016 #84

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #130

LOL-Keep telling yourself that-Bernie's winning! redstateblues May 2016 #104

#berniemath metroins May 2016 #126

supposedly, even her supporters don't like her amborin May 2016 #123

Supposedly, you can get high by smoking banana peels. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #124

You can't . TheFarS1de Jun 2016 #139

Lol. Agreed. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #140

Not enough cloths pins bahrbearian May 2016 #5

Because that doesn't make one a good candidate Recursion May 2016 #6

Maybe you should ask Obama? jillan May 2016 #21

Maybe you should remember logic 101? Recursion May 2016 #25

Here's the one I like pdsimdars May 2016 #56

Just sayin' what? rock May 2016 #82

There's a duzy, ouch! appalachiablue May 2016 #106

That "more votes" meme has been shown to be deceptive. There's a thorough post on it pdsimdars May 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors May 2016 #66

Really Recursion May 2016 #92

Here's why 50,000 rally attendees matter. lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #151

OK, but it's not actually translating into votes Recursion Jun 2016 #154

And you have a flux capacitor? lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #155

Give her credit, Fuddnik May 2016 #7

^^THAT^^ onecaliberal May 2016 #64

Not saying he did... but he did. Ino May 2016 #121

Looks like she picked a better strategy hack89 May 2016 #10

In other words, you've got nothing. BigBearJohn May 2016 #12

She didn't do rallies. We all know that hack89 May 2016 #15

I think its more like madokie May 2016 #38

So every state's results are questionable? hack89 May 2016 #48

At this point, Hack89 madokie May 2016 #51

Another bitter dead ender I see.nt hack89 May 2016 #81

Exactly... Yurovsky May 2016 #50

She didn't have to do any work to get the voters she has now passiveporcupine May 2016 #53

Many Bernie supporters are young people and students who have plenty of time on their hands Nye Bevan May 2016 #13

And Obama supporters were not? jillan May 2016 #22

Barack Obama certainly had a lot of young and enthusiastic supporters. Nye Bevan May 2016 #28

What a f*ing racist post. jillan May 2016 #34

Wait..... pointing out that Bernie has not been able to connect with racial minorities, Nye Bevan May 2016 #44

I have been to 2 Bernie rallies. Both of them were a mixture of people, young and old. jillan May 2016 #49

So you consider this NY Times article to be "racist"? Nye Bevan May 2016 #52

They're too busy voting for her TwilightZone May 2016 #16

I wouldn't wait in line to see anyone, and I hate crowds. cwydro May 2016 #17

Because we have...jobs? Family? Other commitments? Tarc May 2016 #18

you find PLENTY of time to play here. nt grasswire May 2016 #27

You don't need to wait 8 hours in line to post on DU (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #45

And also, you don't go to your usual computer station truedelphi May 2016 #114

Yea, with this handy-dandy contraption called a "smartphone", my dear silly grasswire Tarc May 2016 #87

It's a different demographic. My parents, for instance (and all of their friends), would never in a anotherproletariat May 2016 #19

The people who go to Bernie rallies are not just young people. That has been documented. pdsimdars May 2016 #58

Hey everybody! Are you listening to all these answers? BigBearJohn May 2016 #20

Oh you calling for backup? n/t asuhornets May 2016 #23

Honestly, I don't see most of them. I started using ignore and have not looked back. pdsimdars May 2016 #59

I wonder if Berners would trade some of his crowds for some of her delegates? CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #24

Oh have no worry Hillaritès. If the establishment could ramrod a moron BigBearJohn May 2016 #29

It was a good try. Bernie just came up a little short. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #39

If Bernie's such a great candidate why is HRC beating him by 3.5 million popular votes? WI_DEM May 2016 #26

That margin disenfranchises caucus states and independent voters in closed primary states. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #30

Not according to this article: WI_DEM May 2016 #42

blah, blah, blah, excuse, excuse, excuse. . . . . . those vote totals mean almost nothing pdsimdars May 2016 #65

See below BigBearJohn May 2016 #40

She isn't. Go read the post about that vote count. pdsimdars May 2016 #61

You might want to correct that WA has 7.2 million population, not 72 million. PufPuf23 May 2016 #76

And lost the primary handily. mythology Jun 2016 #157

Rich folks have been paying a fortune for years to hear her speak!! Jarqui May 2016 #31

I know, isn't that funny. The anointed one who was supposed to have SO MUCH MONEY pdsimdars May 2016 #69

It confounds me as well. But maybe I'm a hypocrite there because I'm Jarqui May 2016 #91

Here's an interesting graphic. pdsimdars May 2016 #105

that is interesting marions ghost Jun 2016 #141

You don't get to see her for free, and not many people can afford the $2,000 entrance fee n/t arcane1 May 2016 #32

This is reaching. Come on. He loved Big Brother May 2016 #33

Well said! tonyt53 May 2016 #37

And Obama won as I recall. BigBearJohn May 2016 #43

Yes, Obama won, but he didn't start off with big rallies all american girl May 2016 #125

It's not about good or bad candidate, it's about candidates who inspire the voters pdsimdars May 2016 #73

Because she isn't going to only where her cheerleaders can get to without their mothers driving them tonyt53 May 2016 #35

I think she has... Mike Nelson May 2016 #41

Personally .... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #77

We actually go out and vote and show up at state conventions. ;) boston bean May 2016 #55

Her supporters make their voices heard where it counts - in the voting booth. Metric System May 2016 #60

There aren't that many hedge fund managers in the world Depaysement May 2016 #62

even if one hedge fund voter has $10M to donate, they still only have 1 vote Sheepshank May 2016 #68

How's filling those arenas working out for Bernie and the final tally? Sheepshank May 2016 #63

Hillary's campaign focuses on "listening" to individual voters. nt oasis May 2016 #67

You're right. She listens to her big donors and noone else. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #89

She prefers one on one contact with folks from all levels of society. oasis May 2016 #90

Hillary doesn't spend any time whatsoever with anyone who doesn't write a large check to her. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #97

She's been speaking to folks in shops, small businesses oasis May 2016 #98

Back to this again? It must be Friday. NurseJackie May 2016 #70

Sanders is losing because his strategy to talk at people failed KingFlorez May 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #75

Very true, why isn't Sanders three million more votes than Hillary and he Thinkingabout May 2016 #79

Because Hillary does not campaign that way. apnu May 2016 #78

Monster Truck Jams, wrestling, gun shows, Trump, etc., fill venues with white people too. Hoyt May 2016 #80

She's filling voting booths where the real WhiteTara May 2016 #83

See what last Saturday's Saturday Night Live's opening skit truedelphi May 2016 #109

Okay. Now we are using comedy shows as WhiteTara May 2016 #113

I've supported her twice Codeine May 2016 #86

Why didn't FDR pack 'em in like the Nuremberg rallies? VOX May 2016 #88

Most of her voters wouldn't have time. barrow-wight May 2016 #93

Maybe they should try voting. Demsrule86 May 2016 #95

+1 oasis May 2016 #99

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #96

She's been too busy getting them to actually vote. JoePhilly May 2016 #100

Big rallies cost money, now that Sanders funds is getting low and since Hillary has been on the Thinkingabout May 2016 #102

Expensive fundraisers cost money too democrattotheend May 2016 #111

And these same fund raisers has made its way to Sanders when he was running for Senator, Hillary Thinkingabout May 2016 #112

Because she doesn't excite and inspire that way democrattotheend May 2016 #110

It's called election fraud. 99Forever May 2016 #115

That is what sore losers always say Demsrule86 May 2016 #119

She's not famous for soaring oratory. She's respected for being smart ecstatic May 2016 #116

I guess more people voted... Demsrule86 May 2016 #117

. baldguy May 2016 #120

Simple answer. Her fans aren't interested in what she says, only in her status. JudyM May 2016 #122

She does not need the rah rah stadium filled. She has 3M popular vote advantage, now add WA riversedge May 2016 #127

The better question is if Sanders is a great candidate who has big rallies and he is unable Thinkingabout May 2016 #128

Because they have better things to do? Proud Public Servant May 2016 #129

Because she is a terrible lancer78 Jun 2016 #131

Her campaign strategy has been smaller venues with more one on one connection. Lucinda Jun 2016 #133

yes one on one connections like telling azurnoir Jun 2016 #134

The two things are not in conflict. Common sense changes to gun laws aren't in any way Lucinda Jun 2016 #136

ummmhmmm I'm sure she thoroughly explained that to both crowds azurnoir Jun 2016 #138

Yeah right -- that and the behemoth machine called the democratic ESTABLISHMENT BigBearJohn Jun 2016 #144

If Bernie is such a great candidate, why isn't he filling barrow-wight Jun 2016 #135

He would be if voting wasn't being suppressed BigBearJohn Jun 2016 #145

Lol! barrow-wight Jun 2016 #146

You should be laughing, you got the best candidate money can buy BigBearJohn Jun 2016 #147

Lol barrow-wight Jun 2016 #148

Rich people don't go to political conventions. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #137

Bingo marions ghost Jun 2016 #142

Its called jimw81 Jun 2016 #143

Here's the stadium Bernie filled in my town last week: ucrdem Jun 2016 #149

Different sort of candidate. Orsino Jun 2016 #150

Hillary voters don't need to hear reassuring talking points. We're more confident than that. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #152

Crowds are not votes: as we have seen: winning elections is very hard work with lewebley3 Jun 2016 #153

super large venues and stadiums cost big bucks to put on BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #156

Because she realized that having huge rallies wasn't an effective tactic in 2008 mythology Jun 2016 #158