2016 Postmortem

Rex

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72. Trump supports free trade and Dems support fair trade.

Reply to whatthehey (Reply #69)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:56 PM

Jun 2016

People here get liberal and libertarian mixed up, because they overlap in a few key areas.

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As I predicted, Trump is going after Hillary from the left on jobs [View all] adigal Jun 2016 OP

Hell, everybody knew that was coming - he has been doing ti since day one tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1

Well, over on the daily kos there is no talk of it - in fact, they think her attack on Trump U adigal Jun 2016 #2

How much does Trump U affect the average person? vintx Jun 2016 #4

Ouch. Good point. yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #9

Yes, excellent point. Trump U is not something the average Joe even understands adigal Jun 2016 #14

Very hard to care about Trump U. SpareribSP Jun 2016 #41

Uh, Trump U is a gift from the anybody but Trump GOP group. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #53

Oh, for sure. SpareribSP Jun 2016 #58

Fraudulent promises by a college? Say it ain't so! lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #47

Yeah...a Start Up didn't make it? Just Wow. That describes libdem4life Jun 2016 #55

The flip flops are so appropriate Carolina Jun 2016 #70

There's more than just one issue on which Trump can outflank her on the left. mac56 Jun 2016 #3

if you forget trump outsources his product lines overseas beachbum bob Jun 2016 #5

Yeah why is that not being played up more??? hollowdweller Jun 2016 #39

Because it's seen as him being a businessman. SpareribSP Jun 2016 #45

Because the politicians have Grand Trade Programs...and get the libdem4life Jun 2016 #56

Trump is attacking her from the Paleocon, isolationist, xenophobic right. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #6

^^^ This, right here MohRokTah Jun 2016 #11

Yes, but what about a government that does so on a global scale? libdem4life Jun 2016 #59

Sure, you know that and call it that adigal Jun 2016 #15

Remember when liberals were against NAFTA? Those were good times. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #37

I vaguely remember that. :) nt adigal Jun 2016 #42

He's all over the place, he's a progressive, right wing fascist, racist, JRLeft Jun 2016 #28

Yes, branding himself and picking one word or phrase to mock the other with adigal Jun 2016 #34

He is only to the 'left' on trade if Herbert Hoover was to the 'left' of FDR on trade. pampango Jun 2016 #87

Interesting. As a guy with no public office record, he can come from any fuckin' where. ancianita Jun 2016 #7

Trump is whacko insane and there's many ways to flank him Dem2 Jun 2016 #8

He makes his clothing line in China. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #10

OK, I hope your certainty lets you sleep at night adigal Jun 2016 #18

Nothing in life is certain. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #24

But people think that the fact that he gamed the system means he's smart. DookDook Jun 2016 #80

Why from the left? Protectionism is not a left or right idea. Mass Jun 2016 #12

I didn't know that isolationism, protectionism and nationalism were inherently leftist principles qdouble Jun 2016 #13

That's how you see it. Many low info voters see it as protecting American jobs adigal Jun 2016 #16

Low information voters aren't "left or right," they just don't understand what the issue is. qdouble Jun 2016 #20

OK, so HIllary needs to get on this topic and explain it!!! adigal Jun 2016 #35

I agree that some people are attracted to nationalistic rhetoric and scapegoating on both sides... qdouble Jun 2016 #60

Are you sure you aren't one of the low info voters yourself? CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #26

Are you sure you don't have a better response than an ad hominem attack?? adigal Jun 2016 #36

and where would the smart people be exactly? CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #44

No. Because you are more interested in ad hominem attacks and trying to look smart yourself adigal Jun 2016 #74

Perhaps not, but globalization is a losing one. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #48

The fruits of left-wing nationalism is poverty and xenophobia. qdouble Jun 2016 #66

When my neighbors can't pay their fuel bills by mid-winter, worry about those in other nations adigal Jun 2016 #75

What you're saying is not much different than me saying... qdouble Jun 2016 #79

If you lived in a country called "white" you might have had a point. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #84

Those we elect have the responsibility for the wellbeing of US citizens. Period. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #83

Of course the people we elect have a responsibility to American citizens... qdouble Jun 2016 #85

Free trade isn't an inherently leftist principle either. JVS Jun 2016 #63

One's free trade philosophy comes down to nationalism....there are left and right wing nationalists qdouble Jun 2016 #64

Let me know when he has a fair and sane tax plan. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #17

No he's not oberliner Jun 2016 #19

If Hillary is the Nominee, we will lose. AzDar Jun 2016 #21

You really want your kid working like this BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #22

70% of those workers are now being replaced by robots lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #50

She is to the right of Trump? AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #23

She's been hitting him, the press isn't covering it. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #25

She will flipflop again on TPP, so no help from her. lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #27

What GOP rep DOESN'T say they will supercharge the economy? randome Jun 2016 #29

OK. I hope you are right. But that 5% is many underemployed people, at least where I live adigal Jun 2016 #38

It could always be better. Fairer. Easier to access. randome Jun 2016 #54

That's not what people are hearing. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #51

How in the hell can Hillary fight back on this? She's a flawed candidate B Calm Jun 2016 #30

Her reluctance to go against the TPP is the kind of thing that will hurt her adigal Jun 2016 #40

He's attacking her from a position of no knowledge. Not from the left. n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #31

All of Trump's crappola (except for the hats) is made NOT in the USA Mr Maru Jun 2016 #32

Republicans support trade agreements. Is he going to attack his own party as well? Yavin4 Jun 2016 #33

The GOP is being driven to the left on economics like we were driven to the right in 80's and 90's hollowdweller Jun 2016 #43

We'll see. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #65

The problem with nominating a idelogically moderate republican like Hillary.... Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #46

First-use spell check. Secong-Your desperation is showing. Ask some Republicans redstateblues Jun 2016 #57

first if you're going to tell me to use spellcheck, you better make sure your post is pristine. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #61

Bernie lost because he doesn't understand that realmirage Jun 2016 #62

The idea that Republicans and Democrats are all chummy is ridiculous. redstateblues Jun 2016 #94

Irony - "First - use spell check. Secong - Your desperation is showing." nt adigal Jun 2016 #76

You have no idea what the left is if you think he is outflanking her to her left. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #49

So why don't you come up where I live and tell those who lost their jobs overseas adigal Jun 2016 #77

You are now flat out promoting Trumps verbiage. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #81

I'm saying his rhetoric is effective...I teach rhetoric adigal Jun 2016 #90

I disagree with your assessment. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #91

She can't hit back at all... Ino Jun 2016 #52

Yes, she can. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #67

Yep. Hillary/ Dems lose on all trade issues to Trump' BS Teamster Jeff Jun 2016 #82

I know a young voter, going to college for IT and will NOT vote for Clinton in the GE because of her Skwmom Jun 2016 #68

Again what DU thinks is "left" is skewed whatthehey Jun 2016 #69

Trump supports free trade and Dems support fair trade. Rex Jun 2016 #72

Well the survey just asked about free trade agreements whatthehey Jun 2016 #73

Nice graphic showing Democratic support for trade agreements and republican opposition. pampango Jun 2016 #93

Only if you think Repoublicans in general are more to the left of Dems whatthehey Jun 2016 #95

People need to remember, he is not attacking from the left. Trump is a libertarian. Rex Jun 2016 #71

My point is that my unemployed and underemployed neighbors don't care what you call it adigal Jun 2016 #78

I understand that, however how exactly do they see Trump fixing everything? Rex Jun 2016 #92

It's not hard - she's left a lot of room on her left flank. Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #86

And tomorrow, he'll attack from the right. ecstatic Jun 2016 #88

It's not like Trump has any jobs plan of his own if asked, so I'm not worried. Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #89