2016 Postmortem

ProgressiveEconomist

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4. WRONG! That diatribe tries to

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:48 PM

Jun 2016

bend reality to a made-up fantasy promoted by white millennial Sanders zealots. The facts are 180 degrees away from this statement in the OP:

"that sales pitch has been rejected by the voters the party needs to survive into the future—millennials, young African Americans and Latinos"

See, for example,

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls

"Exit polls: Obama wins big among young, minority voters"

"The only age group where McCain prevailed was 65 and over, and that by just a 10-percentage-point margin, 54 percent to 44 percent, the exit polls showed.

And minorities went heavily into the Obama camp. Blacks, 96 percent Obama to 3 percent McCain; Latinos, 67 percent Obama to 30 percent McCain; and Asians, 63 percent Obama to 34 percent McCain."

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This Article Nails It: Bernie is about to give Democrats their 'come to Jesus' moment [View all] Skwmom Jun 2016 OP

others say he's an Eisenhower Republican: either way, there's one political dynasty that's MisterP Jun 2016 #1

There are none so blind as those who will not see... Skwmom Jun 2016 #2

or get money or whuffie from the gravy-train system MisterP Jun 2016 #3

One of my favorite quotes. Duval Jun 2016 #23

WRONG! That diatribe tries to ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #4

Those statistics you cite are from a different time. There was no anti-establishment candidate cui bono Jun 2016 #8

There's no "anti-Establishment ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #12

My apologies. I thought I was responding to a rational human being living in reality. cui bono Jun 2016 #18

Project much? ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #19

... 2banon Jun 2016 #128

Never try to argue with a cultist--particularly a New Democrat "progressive". BillZBubb Jun 2016 #35

I saw a sig line yesterday, can't remembere whose. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #79

Mark Twain. JimDandy Jun 2016 #95

What a treasure! dchill Jun 2016 #103

good quote! 2banon Jun 2016 #129

The irony being his user name "ProgressiveEconomist." Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #114

Where is the virtue in ignoring what Hortensis Jun 2016 #141

I've made that mistake here a few times myself Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #78

Lol! KPN Jun 2016 #120

And there you have it. "What are they going to do, vote for Trump?" TransitJohn Jun 2016 #42

Isn't that what Bill Clinton said sandyshoes17 Jun 2016 #53

Yes, that's been the " New Democrat" DLC, Third Way line going back to the mid-80's Beowulf Jun 2016 #72

I almost feel sad for them that they do not realize how many backs they are facing. n/t JimDandy Jun 2016 #96

And stabbing. dchill Jun 2016 #135

now, now, nothing wrong with getting screwed once in awhile, 2banon Jun 2016 #130

Bingo. rateyes Jun 2016 #55

Yep. Back on the plantation, you. Step lively! n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #76

The ones I know personally will NOT vote for Hillary. djean111 Jun 2016 #54

I know I won't. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #115

ProgressiveEconomist—Good point! Every election sees a shift of +0. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #94

You just hide and watch notadmblnd Jun 2016 #102

So anyone in history who advocated a progressive change from the status quo ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #113

You are absolutely right, which is the ONLY reason your post produced the shrieks that it did Number23 Jun 2016 #132

A career politician with 30 years in Congress isn't what I'd call anti-establishment. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #137

I've talked to voters in the group he is talking about and he is spot on. Skwmom Jun 2016 #21

Let's be charitable ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #24

Who said that? What I said is I have spoken to (know) young African-Americans and Latinos and Skwmom Jun 2016 #27

"he is spot on" ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #36

Apparently there are polls that show this passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #44

"Try google" to ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #47

Yeah, I thought so passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #51

Why not google BEFORE ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2016 #59

what did I post twice? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #64

Well, try the bible. I've heard it's in there. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #80

Here is one, but doubt it'll be enough ... ebayfool Jun 2016 #82

Thanks. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #83

His campaign is still viable. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #116

Apples and oranges. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #85

The author is referring to the current election, not 2008. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #112

messiah complex from the get go nt msongs Jun 2016 #5

Yup Bernie the savior workinclasszero Jun 2016 #15

This is the dung that reveals the shallow nature of well, the status quo. libdem4life Jun 2016 #46

Probably misquoting ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #117

Correct and right on. libdem4life Jun 2016 #126

Thank you! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #139

Messiah? Where have I heard that before? frylock Jun 2016 #20

Thank you for making this observation... saves me the trouble. SalviaBlue Jun 2016 #57

Do you understand what a come to jesus moment means? Skwmom Jun 2016 #22

Obama isn't running this year. That was the attack used on him. Did you forget or are jillan Jun 2016 #84

Wow what desperation. Sen Sanders has been singing the same song for decades. You either rhett o rick Jun 2016 #86

This leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #106

Clinton supporters agree with her on any particular issue. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #119

If you ask what their stand is on an issue they won't answer because they are afraid rhett o rick Jun 2016 #123

Ah, the Christ complex again. Is that in third person? Lol seabeyond Jun 2016 #6

Well, now that you mention it... findrskeep Jun 2016 #25

The Golden Rule? Do onto others as we want done onto us? Really? Lol. Sanders seabeyond Jun 2016 #30

That is plainly not true. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #121

Nu uh. seabeyond Jun 2016 #122

So... in essence... you want other to call you out.... Matt_R Jun 2016 #125

That's not what the Come to Jesus Moment refers to. libdem4life Jun 2016 #48

lost cause, there nt grasswire Jun 2016 #65

Become a believer.... Make of it what you will. seabeyond Jun 2016 #68

OK, then. libdem4life Jun 2016 #71

K&R.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #7

K & R imagine2015 Jun 2016 #9

K&R - Damn well said Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #10

As they say, the love of money is the root of all evil. n/t Skwmom Jun 2016 #127

Clinton would be a fool to unilaterally disarm... brooklynite Jun 2016 #11

Yet he's still outpolling Trump better than Clinton. eom Fawke Em Jun 2016 #13

Please tell me that's not the argument Sanders will be giving to the Superdelegates... brooklynite Jun 2016 #14

And I say, hallelujah, it is time to come-to-Jesus, and vote for the man who is preaching his pdsimdars Jun 2016 #16

Yes, he is a very bright light. findrskeep Jun 2016 #29

Yeah, those pesky Beatitudes...downright socialist spoken by a hippie. libdem4life Jun 2016 #49

Watching Bernie's campaign grow from nothing a year ago senz Jun 2016 #87

K&R vintx Jun 2016 #17

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #26

Yeah, but there are two Jesuses. HassleCat Jun 2016 #28

And one of those is the true Jesus findrskeep Jun 2016 #33

stay married to corporate money or return to its first love—the American middle class. elleng Jun 2016 #31

Really so what is your plan to get rid of United? We all want that but how? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #143

I'm not disenchanted with Obama hollowdweller Jun 2016 #32

Obama didn't move the needle to the left at all! cui bono Jun 2016 #39

Exactly Carolina Jun 2016 #77

Better known in my New Orleans neck of the woods Aerows Jun 2016 #34

Good party history from the progressive p.o.v. Thanks! I hope you're right. ancianita Jun 2016 #37

Raving angry socialist be destroyed by trump beachbumbob Jun 2016 #38

Bernie is telling people what the Democratic party once was, could be again and should be again. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #40

You may be right. I hope not but if you are most of us will jwirr Jun 2016 #133

Why name a secular phenomenon after a religious figure? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #41

No one is looking for a religious figure findrskeep Jun 2016 #43

"we have the power to change" Just not the votes. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #45

Oh, good, um, lord. This is used all the time. It's not religious. libdem4life Jun 2016 #50

How do you not understand that Buddha and Jesus are religious figures? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #52

OK, then. libdem4life Jun 2016 #58

If you are religious they are. To me they are characters of literature and myth and culture. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #70

I look at it as merely an idiom. Skwmom Jun 2016 #62

I think you're off by one letter there. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #63

It's a painfully common figure of speech. phleshdef Jun 2016 #118

Who has the power and money to pull us out of the economic hole? They don't really need many Jitter65 Jun 2016 #56

you sound far too much like a Republican, contempt for voters and the works. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #66

They are letting a TYT anchor quote on CNBC? trudyco Jun 2016 #60

The "Come to Jesus moment" rock Jun 2016 #61

Why get stuck on an idiom? It just means 'moment of reckoning'. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #67

It's a poor analogy rock Jun 2016 #73

Oh, I disagree. It is extremely fitting. Skwmom Jun 2016 #75

That's funny Meteor Man Jun 2016 #81

I agree that it is a loaded phrase that distracts from the point being made GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #98

Epiphany. From the (non-Judeo, pre-Christian) Greek. Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #105

I also like them both rock Jun 2016 #107

I don't get it. In 2008, I canvassed for Obama because I felt the energy and enthusiasm from him. randome Jun 2016 #69

A lot of his coworkers are corporatist sellouts. Skwmom Jun 2016 #74

Okee dokee then, enjoy these special vibes instead. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #88

Well, I don't really get that much from Clinton, either. randome Jun 2016 #91

Bernie has worked year after year on the people's amendments AND passed the biggest VA legislation. Skwmom Jun 2016 #97

It takes a certain amount of ego to put yourself in a leadership position. randome Jun 2016 #99

Absolute perfection. Contemplating creating a sock puppet so I can rec it twice. Barack_America Jun 2016 #89

It really sums it up. Skwmom Jun 2016 #131

Jesus! tandem5 Jun 2016 #90

Excellent piece!! But I am sitting here lmao at all the people that never heard the term jillan Jun 2016 #92

That's why I provided a definition. Skwmom Jun 2016 #93

K&R blackspade Jun 2016 #100

Down with corporatists Third Wayers! Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #101

Damn skippy, CV farleftlib Jun 2016 #140

The establishment claims to be surprised by this. That makes them either naive or liars. Scuba Jun 2016 #104

A "Come to Jesus Moment" pinebox Jun 2016 #108

My bet.. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #109

Nailed it! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #110

thanks for this! Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #111

How about we call it a 'come to Jesus (hey-Zeus)' moment so folks.. aidbo Jun 2016 #124

Occupy didn't fizzle Paulie Jun 2016 #134

It ain't going to happen. Beacool Jun 2016 #136

The author of that piece seems to think Bernie IS Jesus. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #138

Isn't it about time for the obligatory "X days left!" comment? Buns_of_Fire Jun 2016 #142