2016 Postmortem

yallerdawg

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6. Powerless.

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:59 PM

Jun 2016

Like Biden?

Cheney?

Gore?

Elizabeth Warren likes to get things done. 1 out of 100 in a Republican Senate is power?

I remember Gore breaking ties in the Senate. Cheney was Bush's brain. Biden moved Obama on multiple occasions, and always has his ear!

I think Elizabeth has done her best work when she didn't have an office of tremendous authority. When she got things done from behind!!!

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Elizabeth Warren as Hillary's running mate is bad for one reason, she would be powerless as VP. [View all] JRLeft Jun 2016 OP

I would rather have Warren in the Senate as well (nt) bigwillq Jun 2016 #1

It's also bad because Mass has an R governor Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #2

Well that's the part that doesn't much matter, as the D's control the legislature Tarc Jun 2016 #7

Didn't they control the legislature when Scott Brown was installed? Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #10

If they had left things alone after stripping Romney of his powers in 2004 Tarc Jun 2016 #15

I forgot that I also knew that about Mass politics - Coakley Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #18

Scott Brown wasn't installed, he was elected. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #32

Wall Street wants her as VP to render her powerless and it allows a clown to fill her seat. JRLeft Jun 2016 #8

She'd have a pretty big megaphone as Veep Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #13

The VP's job is to push the president's agenda her and Hillary are on different ends of the JRLeft Jun 2016 #14

I'm not sure people thought Joe Biden and Barack Obama had a lot in common in '08 Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #17

Warren and Clinton are not on different ends of the spectrum. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #24

No. Hillary is a Reaganite. Elizabeth isn't. immoderate Jun 2016 #28

And... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #46

It's my position that ALL presidents since the eighties have been Reaganites. immoderate Jun 2016 #47

Elizabeth Warren doesn't seem to believe she and Hillary are on different ends of the spectrum. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #33

Hillary is better than a far right republican, but she's still a Republican. JRLeft Jun 2016 #34

This is literally no different than Nader supporters calling Gore a Repubilcan. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #38

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #41

Facts matter, JR. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #42

Hillary has said that her political convictions are rooted in conservatism. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #44

No way, for a variety of reasons. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #3

Why do you think some people are pushing that? -none Jun 2016 #4

VP can be a very powerless position Txbluedog Jun 2016 #5

Mixed sex tickets always lose. All winners have been same sex. immoderate Jun 2016 #30

Powerless. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #6

Biden has been powerless he has to do what he is told. JRLeft Jun 2016 #11

I don't think Warren would be powerless in ANY JOB! napi21 Jun 2016 #9

Shit, wait until Hillary asks her to push neoliberal policies. JRLeft Jun 2016 #12

She would be required to promote Clinton's agenda Marrah_G Jun 2016 #22

Agreed. Besides, I don't want her tarnished by the Clintons Arazi Jun 2016 #16

Think Not srcameron Jun 2016 #19

Best possible scenario for the people would be NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #20

It would neuter her and we need her voice Marrah_G Jun 2016 #21

I suspect that would be very popular with Hillary's paymasters. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #23

We need to win the general...she will do nothing in the Senate if Trump wins Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #25

I think that she could be effective anywhere. She's very good. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #26

Yes and no. elleng Jun 2016 #27

Democratic leaders would replace her senate seat with another third way. They B Calm Jun 2016 #29

It's pretty fuckin obvious. JRLeft Jun 2016 #36

Yup. Not gonna fall for it here, no siree. As if a useless VP nod convinces me anything about Hill JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #45

Massachusetts has a Republican governor who would presumably appoint totodeinhere Jun 2016 #40

I agree. Warren would be much more effective in the Senate. sueh Jun 2016 #31

No No you are looking at it wrong TimPlo Jun 2016 #35

Dere's dat. immoderate Jun 2016 #48

So then let's take a Senator from a state with a solid progressive governor. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #37

If Liz gets on the ticket it will be for one reason and one reason only. totodeinhere Jun 2016 #39

Agree. 840high Jun 2016 #43

It's bad because she would lose all credibility. Not going to happen. ThePhilosopher04 Jun 2016 #49