2016 Postmortem

Meteor Man

(385 posts) Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:07 PM Jun 2016

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I'm going to support Bernie Sanders until he’s out of the race and I don’t think there’s any harm in doing that and he’s going to stay in to the end just exactly like Hillary did and she’s not going to be able to say a word about it. The Democratic party is going to have to deal with both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren when they get to the convention. They’re both keeping themselves in a position to have an effect and that’s fucking democracy.

The dude abides.

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/04/steve_earle_on_backing_bernie_until_hes_out_the_democratic_party_is_going_to_have_to_deal_with_both_bernie_sanders_and_elizabeth_warren_when_they_get_to_the_convention/

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Hillary dropped out after the voting was over. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1

That wouldn't be narcissistic, nor would it be "sore loser". Schema Thing Jun 2016 #2

+10,000 nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #3

Very well stated. Thanks. libdem4life Jun 2016 #6

You meant that for Schema Thing and yes it was. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #8

If he loses the voting, he can either respect the will of the voters geek tragedy Jun 2016 #9

The voting portion of the race is over June 14. morningfog Jun 2016 #35

By 4 days. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #36

Your point? morningfog Jun 2016 #37

Clinton was in surrender talks with Obama 2-3 days after he clinched. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #38

If you know where and think it important, tell us. morningfog Jun 2016 #40

I was asking because I do not know nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #42

Bernie has never been about making deals and maximizing leverage. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #23

Seems like a safe bet... Orsino Jun 2016 #11

then he forfeits the right to speak at the convention. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #12

That's one risk, I suppose. Orsino Jun 2016 #16

Neither candidate would be allowed a chance to campaign against the other geek tragedy Jun 2016 #17

I think it most likely that Sanders would want real concessions, platform-wise... Orsino Jun 2016 #18

Platform is a legit request, requesting a cabinet post is highly inappropriate. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #19

A Cabinet slot seems to be exactly the resultof the '08 fight... Orsino Jun 2016 #20

Obama asked her in the fall after he beat McCain, she was reluctant at first. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #21

That is adorable. n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #24

so you're suggesting President Obama blatantly lied? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #25

Yes. Orsino Jun 2016 #30

and committed a federal crime? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #31

If you're talking about during the convention, that might be crimi al. Orsino Jun 2016 #32

Sec of State offer was 5 months after she dropped out. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #33

599 is very specific about what's illegal... Orsino Jun 2016 #39

you literally have nothing but unsubstantiated speculation geek tragedy Jun 2016 #43

The only evidence is the public announcement. Orsino Jun 2016 #44

+1, and Obama wasn't up 3 million votes either... Sanders is stuck in the 50s... we'll see uponit7771 Jun 2016 #41

JUNE 8, 2008 - HRC Ends Campaign with Clear Call to Elect Obama. NYT Henhouse Jun 2016 #4

You and your fellow drones sure do forget what 2008 was like. TimPlo Jun 2016 #13

Clinton drones, huh? Then there must be Sanders drones also. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #26

But drones... JSup Jun 2016 #34

K, so point being she ceded when he won the majority uponit7771 Jun 2016 #45

Indeed, that's democracy.. all the way until he's out and he isn't out yet, 2banon Jun 2016 #5

It's all the more time to work on the down ticket races and the up libdem4life Jun 2016 #7

Hillary got out after the last primaries when the declared total of pledged and super delegates Zynx Jun 2016 #10

Not at first. TimPlo Jun 2016 #14

where's your proof that she was offered a candidate position to drop out? qdouble Jun 2016 #29

The podium bird told em uponit7771 Jun 2016 #46

Sanders will declare his support of Clinton after Calif, correct? Per your post. The you contradict seabeyond Jun 2016 #15

Good point, just as many voters decided before the campaign began the SD's also decided. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #27

She got out before the convention Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #22

We could give Sanders four days to sway the SD's, then he accepts the results and we Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #28

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #47

Warren is going to endorse Hillary this week. If Bernie wants to help Trump, he'll be doing it alone YouDig Jun 2016 #48