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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]NNadir
(37,256 posts)138. Like I said, I couldn't care less. Write in the fool's name if you wish. Like Ms. Clinton...
...I'm focusing on Trump.
But for the record, I was once a hippie myself, but I grew up. I'm not proud of it though I found my "hippiedom" to have been a real waste of time, a time in an insipid herd of iconoclast wannabees who were, in fact, less iconoclastic than they assumed they were. I should have used that time more usefully.
Onn that note, I will say this, I'm real fond of that commentary that asked whether Bernie Sanders reminded you of your stoner roommate in college. Is Bernie Sanders your stoner college roommate? After he fumbles his way through a Daily News interview, there seems to be far less to the socialist populist than meets the eye
Remember that guy who lived in your college dorm, always wore a Che Guevara t-shirt, and ranted about the system? Thats basically Bernie Sanders.
Throughout this presidential campaign, a fulsome narrative has sprouted up around the Vermont socialist: That whatever one thinks of his far-left political views, Sanders is undoubtedly bookish, erudite and extremely knowledgeable about the issues.
A highly revealing interview with the Daily News Editorial Board last week, however, shows that claim to be utter rubbish.
Now let's turn to your views on your right to speak for the impoverished, because you "were not rich."
For the record, my father was a laborer with an 8th grade education whose pension disappeared with Jimmy Hoffa, but so what? I had a few episodes of sleeping on other people's couches, and counting cups of rice until the next pay check; this doesn't make me an ennobled expert on other people's poverty
You think that Bernie Sanders supporters were all uniformly disadvantaged and know better about poverty than anyone else? Sanders is an expert on poverty and racial equality? In Vermont? It's a resort state for white people. I know; I've been there enough.
Sanders is nothing more than a self indulgent baby boomer who whined like hell whenever he wasn't the center of attention for his whole damn life, this with an air of superciliousness that was not appropriate for his accomplishments, which are, by the way, few. If there's any group here at DU that has felt the need to lecture everyone on how everyone should be like them, it's not Clinton supporters.
If you're really, really, really interested in real poverty, by the way, you ought to take a look at the UN's Global Millennium Development Goals report. I did and wrote about it in an effort to confront insipid ideas in energy like those rather dubious ideas that Sanders and his supporters think passes for an energy and climate policy, those that are currently failing at a grotesque rate.
The UN report, (with a convenient link) reflecting on the percentage of people on this planet who live on less than $1.25 a day, is the 4th reference among 68 in my following work:
Current World Energy Demand, Ethical World Energy Demand, Depleted Uranium and the Centuries to Come
Really. You can keep your smug hippie attitude about poverty to yourself. You're hardly the expert you think you are. I'm not, in any case, interested in Sanders platitudes; I'm interested in what he actually knows, and what he's actually done, which in my opinion, in both cases, is not much.
Sanders supporters can take their balls and go home if I'm required to listen to their tiresome statements about how the Democratic Party needs to change in order for them to behave like adults and grant it their august "stamp of approval." Why do we need to indulge them? One feels that nothing will satisfy them, as one can see at looking at the titles of some posts in this space. I couldn't care less about what they do at this point. My impression is that they have been, and in many cases, remain vicious. I'm not a Methodist, but I am familiar with the biblical verse about living and dying by the sword. So let it be with Sanders supporters.
Ms. Clinton is leading the Trump asshole by a satisfying and growing margin, and I expect, given her wonderful, intelligent, and appropriately confrontational speech the other day, that the lead will widen significantly, with or without Sanders and his supporters. She drew the issues in appropriately stark terms.
If someone doesn't understand those terms at this point, I really can't help them.
Give my regards to Susan Sarandon.
Have a nice evening.
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The OP is making a very valid point, one that has been made by the admins of this site as well.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#11
Not them, but the conspiracy theories you and other anti-Hillary people push are.
YouDig
Jun 2016
#31
Ok my cospiracy theory is actually based on exaclty what the OIG reported on
nadinbrzezinski
Jun 2016
#33
No, it's based on your fantasy lawyer friends that you claim tell you the inside scoop.
YouDig
Jun 2016
#38
Not believing what random people post on message boards is not "bully" behavior.
YouDig
Jun 2016
#60
Of all the people to accuse of "pretending that you are just quoting the FBI, ...etc..." you picked
Cal33
Jun 2016
#126
You left out the main point: You accused her of pretending to quote the FBI. Does that
Cal33
Jun 2016
#134
You mean the same exact FBI investigation Stephenapolous asked her about this morning?
nadinbrzezinski
Jun 2016
#142
Yet you were the one who used the words "pretending that you are just quoting the FBI..." to Nadin.
Cal33
Jun 2016
#159
This reminds me of a forum that I was a regular member of for 7 years, and which I still
Cal33
Jun 2016
#139
Yes, both are under the financial influence of the Corporate people, and this is
Cal33
Jun 2016
#146
The "Love it or Leave It" wing of the party demands total loyalty. K&R
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2016
#6
In order to be a REAL Democrat you have to know the secret handshake and sign the loyalty oath.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2016
#17
I remember your candidate opposing my right to marry for decades while claiming God agreed with
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#20
I hear ya. If these Hillary supporters on here are at all representative of
One Black Sheep
Jun 2016
#16
For reasons of my own I'm not the biggest nadine fan around but she gets treated badly here
Fumesucker
Jun 2016
#68
It will increase the pay of my lowest paid workers by 50 cents on Wednesday if it passes.
nadinbrzezinski
Jun 2016
#54
There's one thing you DO care about, and that's telling us repeatedly how much you don't care.
randome
Jun 2016
#50
We need to be gracious, while Bernie continues assaulting reality and reason. Why's that?
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#61
So what happens if Bernie somehow won? Would we have to suck it up and be good soldiers?
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#87
The SDs will count in 2016 in the same way they did in 2008 when they pushed Obama over the top.
LonePirate
Jun 2016
#66
I;m sorry to offend but that is central and part of what you point out in your OP
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#110
Sorry, but it's not my role to stroke your ego. If you sit this one out, it says something...
NNadir
Jun 2016
#100
Like I said, I couldn't care less. Write in the fool's name if you wish. Like Ms. Clinton...
NNadir
Jun 2016
#138
What a thoroughly nasty response to raging moderate's real effort to dialogue
riderinthestorm
Jun 2016
#153
Some people have cranked the assholery knob up to eleven, that's for sure.
Warren DeMontague
Jun 2016
#105
The point of the matter is, I'm not being obnoxious because I disagree and point out facts
justiceischeap
Jun 2016
#125
I am such a big and YYYUUUGEEE Sanders supporter that we are not endorsing him
nadinbrzezinski
Jun 2016
#144
Democratic turnout is already low. With such a flawed candidate topping the ticket I'm worried too
riderinthestorm
Jun 2016
#155
Before this is locked since truth is too much I will self delete myself
nadinbrzezinski
Jun 2016
#164