2016 Postmortem

basselope

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150. They don't count until the convention.. over 1 month away.

Reply to Lil Missy (Reply #102)

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With Hillary only 28 delegates away from clinching the nomination, Bernie demands [View all] pnwmom Jun 2016 OP

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Not I. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #2

He has a point--for another Hortensis Jun 2016 #133

About 45 -45 percent of the people in the parimaries and....that's a despicable description of him Armstead Jun 2016 #17

A lot of the 45% in the primary are not Democrats. seabeyond Jun 2016 #43

Open primaries and caucuses with little participation sure isn't democracy either. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #51

Lots of Greenies redstateblues Jun 2016 #106

just stop unapatriciated Jun 2016 #128

No. I won't "just stop". Facts. Sanders base is Libertarians, Republicans, Baggers, Independents seabeyond Jun 2016 #131

living in the South I have met a few libertarians and baggers unapatriciated Jun 2016 #140

The info, demographics, facts are out there and has been published often. seabeyond Jun 2016 #141

so no links to these facts unapatriciated Jun 2016 #143

bitter old man...you HRC's can be so disgusting. bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #56

Women only get .79 delegates for every 1 delegate a man would get. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #3

and superdelegates only count if they were for bernie MariaThinks Jun 2016 #36

Thread win! brer cat Jun 2016 #41

#BernieMath. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #44

Good one. Beacool Jun 2016 #47

"presumptive nominee" is a factual title, not some sort of bernie fairy tale nt msongs Jun 2016 #4

Presumptuous is a better word Armstead Jun 2016 #18

Yes, it is so presumptuous for the first woman to be the presumptive nominee. pnwmom Jun 2016 #22

It's like when the Onion headline said that Hillary Clinton is annavictorious Jun 2016 #28

You had to get that gender thing in there didn't you? Armstead Jun 2016 #29

Right. Because it's always just a coincidence that the first woman pnwmom Jun 2016 #31

I guess because she is a woman there shoiuld be no standard? Armstead Jun 2016 #33

No. Just the exact SAME STANDARD the AP has used since 1984 without complaint pnwmom Jun 2016 #35

Every election is different...There is no "standard" Armstead Jun 2016 #67

They used same thing in 2008 TimPlo Jun 2016 #32

She did have the edge in actual votes, but she didn't make Obama wait pnwmom Jun 2016 #37

I just read a bitter post today about this being Hillary's lifelong dream as if only men R B Garr Jun 2016 #38

How dare a woman be so ambitious! n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #40

FukinA Stupid Complaint Armstead Jun 2016 #63

Please provide a link showing people complaining about Biden being too ambitious. pnwmom Jun 2016 #89

Did I say too ambitious? I said it is a lofelong ambition. Armstead Jun 2016 #92

"Stop with the gender paranoia." Stop telling women to not discuss the women's issues in this race. seabeyond Jun 2016 #97

Some things are not "women's issues" Armstead Jun 2016 #101

All for shattering, until Clinton has then we all ignore. Not buying it. And yes. This is a woman's seabeyond Jun 2016 #104

So men should not have an opinion of who shouild be president? Armstead Jun 2016 #107

"sometimes the same crap, men have to put up with." Wrong. They don't have to put up with it, R B Garr Jun 2016 #109

I don;'t care whether or not you agree with Sanders's approach Armstead Jun 2016 #111

We are going off what he is saying now. Today. That is all we have, his words. Tomorrow, seabeyond Jun 2016 #113

Ah, and that's where the obvious privilege comes from. It's a male's privilege to fight R B Garr Jun 2016 #122

Nah nobody is heaping scorn on Bernie....And noooooobody's criticizing Trump Armstead Jun 2016 #130

Nurturer. It is her damn role, job and obligation. Coddle and stroke, even at her expense. seabeyond Jun 2016 #112

Exactly, and the double standards are so obvious. She has the role to "unite", so what does R B Garr Jun 2016 #123

Thank you, RB Garr. I am right there with you. I feel much better having expressed myself. seabeyond Jun 2016 #125

Same here, sea. R B Garr Jun 2016 #126

Exactly, and again, how many of us have lived that a lifetime knowing exactly what is going on. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #127

No. In fact, they can't. nt Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #155

Not to mention ignoring another ceiling shattered being the first woman nominee of a major party seabeyond Jun 2016 #45

No, it's not presumptuous. Beacool Jun 2016 #48

It was a joke...Maybe a bad one, but a joke Armstead Jun 2016 #66

Sorry, it's hard to tell nowadays who's joking who's not. Beacool Jun 2016 #77

If he somehow did swing SDs, the news would report it. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #5

The OP is incorrect. Hill needs 607 more delegates to win. senz Jun 2016 #95

The pledged delegates DON'T VOTE UNTIL JULY 25, TOO! MohRokTah Jun 2016 #151

Regardless of whatever anyone says - Sanders, his campaign, the media, whatever.... George II Jun 2016 #6

^This, so many times over. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #25

Yes, and it will be my state who will take her over the top. Beacool Jun 2016 #49

+1000. Exactly! R B Garr Jun 2016 #39

Great post. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #7

I don't think they will pay any attention to his bizarre requests. DCBob Jun 2016 #8

Bizarre requests?...I thought you were a political smartypants Armstead Jun 2016 #20

He will be playing by himself hack89 Jun 2016 #62

Missed the point Armstead Jun 2016 #65

He needs to admit he can't and shouldn't win hack89 Jun 2016 #69

Not even close to "nearly half." She's almost 3 million votes ahead, pnwmom Jun 2016 #87

Here's a "math" lesson Armstead Jun 2016 #132

13,259,842 minus 10,225,032= MORE THAN 3 MILLION VOTERS. pnwmom Jun 2016 #134

3 million out of 23 million Armstead Jun 2016 #138

3 million is more than a third of 10 million. Hillary got 33% more than Bernie's 10 million. pnwmom Jun 2016 #139

Every other trailing candidate since the 80s has also had . . . brush Jun 2016 #115

they don't understand unapatriciated Jun 2016 #135

What you do not understand is we prefer, the voters prefer Clinton's policies to Sanders policies. seabeyond Jun 2016 #136

but the question is what does Clinton prefer unapatriciated Jun 2016 #142

Sanders with his 5 decade speech was so limited at the beginning of campaign I watched him follow seabeyond Jun 2016 #145

What ever unapatriciated Jun 2016 #146

Smartypants insults aside.. he is losing his leverage by the minute. DCBob Jun 2016 #81

Once he leaves the Democratic Party reverts to Clinton Inc.... Armstead Jun 2016 #90

Our main goal at this point in time is keeping Trump or any Republican out of the WH. DCBob Jun 2016 #100

You made my point. Armstead Jun 2016 #103

Its the primary goal when we are a few months prior to the general election.. DCBob Jun 2016 #147

It's not a bizarre request; it's a DEMAND! NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #71

It is not a request. It is a demand with the shaking finger and all. Yes. I saw the "request" seabeyond Jun 2016 #91

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In your dreams...he has lost Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #11

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Yeah shenmue Jun 2016 #23

wow someone must have been very naughty Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #167

The Associated Press delegate tracker shows she's only 60 delegates away from a win. pnwmom Jun 2016 #13

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Bye. zappaman Jun 2016 #15

The magic number includes super delegates, so they get counted, too. pnwmom Jun 2016 #19

I'm hoping PR and the remaining uncommitted supers put her over tonight. ucrdem Jun 2016 #10

This is what we get for entertaining this nonsense for so long. boston bean Jun 2016 #16

Yep GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #156

Bernie embarrasses himself with these tactics. Got a bad case of SoreLoserItis, clearly. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #21

he's got to give it up already Actorvist Jun 2016 #24

Sanders is done, stick a fork in him. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #26

Math will win out! Sorry, Bern-buddy. You blew it. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #27

Maybe she will be called even sooner! pandr32 Jun 2016 #30

When Bernie needs 835 delegates to win, it all seems like kabuki theatre Sheepshank Jun 2016 #34

That's the term I've been using for a while: Kabuki theater. Beacool Jun 2016 #50

Not sure I know (or care, for that matter) what Bernie wants Dem2 Jun 2016 #42

Good OP, pnwmom. brer cat Jun 2016 #46

There is a double whammy for HRC. murielm99 Jun 2016 #54

She still won't have enough delegates to clinch. basselope Jun 2016 #52

You keep forgetting the super delegates! Shape up!! riversedge Jun 2016 #53

They don't vote until the convention. Wake up!! basselope Jun 2016 #57

They're not going to turn their backs on the millions of diverse voters pnwmom Jun 2016 #61

IF they want to avoid president trump they will. basselope Jun 2016 #74

Lol, Lol, Lol, is that all you have to hang your hat on? Weak. nt Fla Dem Jun 2016 #79

She has no path to victory in the GE. basselope Jun 2016 #85

We shall see. nt Fla Dem Jun 2016 #96

Hopefully not. basselope Jun 2016 #153

Have you been asleep for a while? Trump is the one with no path to victory brush Jun 2016 #119

Her path to victory in the general is beating the hell out of Trump & winning the most votes. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #170

LMAO!!! basselope Jun 2016 #171

By Tuesday she'll have a majority of all delegates, and a majority of pledged delegates. pnwmom Jun 2016 #59

That includes super delegates which don't count until the convention basselope Jun 2016 #72

Does Not Matter. She will have won. You score the most touchdowns by the end of the game Fla Dem Jun 2016 #80

Because this isn't football. basselope Jun 2016 #86

Just tell me how Bernie will get the 2383 delegates, please. Fla Dem Jun 2016 #99

Superdelegates decides they don't want President Trump. basselope Jun 2016 #148

Okay then, you just keep hanging on to that mirage. Fla Dem Jun 2016 #152

Its not a mirage.. its a reality. basselope Jun 2016 #154

Because... GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #157

Superdelegates don't vote until the convention. basselope Jun 2016 #159

So you are saying what? GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #160

You are so clueless. basselope Jun 2016 #161

Well, I guess we disagree GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #162

She has no path to victory in the GE. basselope Jun 2016 #163

As I said, we disagree GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #164

Can you back it up with analysis? basselope Jun 2016 #165

Why, so you can dismiss it like you dismiss the fact that Bernie's already lost? -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #169

She'll even be closer to clinching at the end of today. pnwmom Jun 2016 #60

That includes super delegates which don't count until the convention basselope Jun 2016 #73

You do know what a majority is, Right? Fla Dem Jun 2016 #78

Meaningless. basselope Jun 2016 #88

If you say so. I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Fla Dem Jun 2016 #98

My statement is true, yours is false. basselope Jun 2016 #149

Reality is - superdelegates DO count. The news media does not take orders from St. Bernie. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #102

They don't count until the convention.. over 1 month away. basselope Jun 2016 #150

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Do you really think Bernie wouldn't be fighting until the end of HRC were a white male? aikoaiko Jun 2016 #58

I don't think he'd have run. He's 74 and could have run decades ago. pnwmom Jun 2016 #64

yes and no. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #75

Why didn't he run against Bill Clinton? Or Obama -- who was NOT to the left pnwmom Jun 2016 #84

Obama campaigned to the left of Hillary and that's why white liberals supported him. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #93

Hillary's voting record is left of Obama's BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #118

You've topped yourself...Congratulations Armstead Jun 2016 #110

Why didn't he run against Bill Clinton? Why not against Obama? pnwmom Jun 2016 #120

Because none of them were women Armstead Jun 2016 #129

I don't think he was conscious of that reason. But I believe that was part of it. pnwmom Jun 2016 #137

History is against Sanders Gothmog Jun 2016 #68

What a ridiculous demand mcar Jun 2016 #70

Unbearable arrogance of a losing candidate... beachbumbob Jun 2016 #76

Cnn MFM008 Jun 2016 #82

K&R. nt UtahLib Jun 2016 #83

K&R Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #94

Give into this and who knows WHERE it will end? randome Jun 2016 #105

It might end by not having the table tipped constantly in the direction of the anointed candidates Armstead Jun 2016 #108

"anointed candidates" Voters. Democrats preferring Clinton to Sanders. Voters. Sanders is wanting seabeyond Jun 2016 #114

Again, what Clinton accomplished in this race, the solidness of her campaign. All that dismissed by seabeyond Jun 2016 #116

Now its the stupid charges of sexism again. Vattel Jun 2016 #117

kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2016 #121

What a fucking loser. nt arely staircase Jun 2016 #124

that's ok - no one is listening DrDan Jun 2016 #144

This new Bernie 3.0 is imploding postatomic Jun 2016 #158

Not surprised. nt Jamaal510 Jun 2016 #166

Ill just leave this here.... workinclasszero Jun 2016 #168